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I did say EFC were notorious slow starters, but that first half was poor even by our previous standards of mediocrity
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Everton look like they are set up not to concede.
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Everton win this game if they play leeds look clueless when it comes to scoring
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very strange performance by Everton, very disjointed and playing like they've never met before. Grealish must be wondering what he's let himself in for.
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Pickford is asking for someone to charge one of his kicks down, seems to leave it very late to kick the ball away.
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Tanaka coudn't hit a barn door
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pen?
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ball travelled too far to claim it hit him
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1-0, only way Leeds were going to score.
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Pickford too busy fannying about on the line to dive
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Tarkowski gives away more than his fair share of crucial free kicks, imv.
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VAR shows its ugly heart
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worrying for Everton, but not exactly encouraging for Leeds that they struggled to beat a really bad team at home.
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Pelanty connected to low Leeds price at kick off?
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Ya never know with this bet football looks to me results were known before games started
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That was like going back to the Sean Dyche days, awful stuff.
That said it was a very poor decision by Kavanagh to give the penalty and VAR are fecking useless if they don't ask him to look at it again. Kavanagh has form with Everton - he was in the VAR booth against City 3 years back when Rodri clearly handled in the box but he "saw nothing" . denying EFC a chance of a late equaliser. City won 1 nil and won the title by one point from....Liverpool. |
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Couldn’t fathom why Moyes played McNeill as a sub./ on the bench. His ability to take a ball and hold it, even if not playing too well, is a team plus for me.
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I said before kick off that i though McNeill should have played Honcho.Put Garner as holding midfielder which he's best at. Tim Iroegbanaum was a surprise selection for me as i thought Moyes didn't rate him and he was going off on loan for the season.
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Moyes will be lucky to last to November, a few more results like this and the Yanks will dispose of him sharply of that I'm certain.
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Bit of an over reaction Mr S.
Apart from not playing McNeill there wasn't much else that Moyes really got wrong imo. |
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Not really Dixie, just come off Toffeeweb and the majority are blaming Moyes for the tactics and his usual negativity. Leeds weren't very good but we made them look half decent.The lack of signings doesn't help but at least set up to try and win the game. That first half performance was as bad as I ever seen in my 60 years of watching them.
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He started with Alcaraz and Ndiaye as well as Dewsbury Hall Mr S, all like to play on the front foot. He then brought Jack on for the last quarter of the game so there was plenty of attacking potential there, maybe the players need to take more responsibility.
Or maybe DM just needs to find the right combination of the above ? It's far too early to be blaming the manager - remember when he came in last year we then took 31 points from 19 games. Injuries and lack of squad depth is not helping but DM will get it right i'm sure. |
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I know he saved us from almost certain relegation last year but I would have put him upstairs and brought in someone with fresh ideas and had a whole new change along with the stadium. Time will tell whether he makes a success of it and you are right the players need to take responsibility but they've looked crap in the friendlies and hardly much better tonight.
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And lest we forget Mr S, in 23/24 we lost 1 nil at home to Fulham first match and got 1 point from the first five games.
In 24/25 we got hammered 3 nil at home by Brighton first up and again only got 1 point from the first five games. So losing the first game away from home is not the end of the world. But we need to get going earlier than the last two years ! |
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I know its only the first game but the signs were there in pre-season. I hope I'm wrong and a lot will depend on who we can get in the next few weeks because currently this squad will struggle if we don't get some quality soon.
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I made a whole 61p on Round 1
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Not as much as Chris Kavanagh then Nobby
![]() Mr S - i don't know why it is but the last few years pre season results have been poor and the first few games even worse. It's a head scratcher. |
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Yes we never seem to hit the ground running.
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Remember in 1984/85 we lost 4-1 at home to Spurs and then 2-1 away at WBA first two games.
Then ended up winning the league by 13 points ! |
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If you want a 999/1 for that happening again I'm sure you'll be accomodated.
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Amazing Dixie. Those were great Everton days.
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They were indeed Honcho, and they lost the last two games as well after the league was wrapped up, played in late May with mainly reserves after others had finished their games. That side were as good as any we have seen in the English top flight, complete lack of egos and played as a team, superbly put together by Howard and co.
Total transfer fees for the usual first eleven that season was under £2m, bit different to today ! |
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We met a bunch of Everton fans on a Spanish holiday and one of them who we nicknamed Denis because one of our wags reckoned he was a Denis Law lookalike invited us down to his gaff after we got back. He was terrific and moved heaven and earth to find tickets for about ten of us for a packed Goodison match. I look back and wonder how he did it and marvel at his brilliant hospitality itself. Really, we must have taken tickets away from desperate Everton fans which I now regret a little. I remember Andy Gray scoring. A brilliant experience.
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The toffees fans were always friendly to all in my experience Honcho, my friend and i went to the Cup Winners Cup final in Rotterdam that season and a married couple we were talking to on the ferry to Vlissingen had a car and immediately offered us a lift to the ground, an 80 mile trip, rather than us having to get the train .
Ok they were going to the match anyway but it was really nice of them and they wouldn't even let us buy them a drink ! Andy Gray wasn't a prolific goal scorer that season but he was worth his weight in gold to the team. He only scored a few goals at home in the league but i remember he got the first in a 2 nil win over Arsenal in March and then in early April Everton hammered Sunderland 4-1 in a sublime performance which was on Match Of The Day, the goals were all crackers and Andy got two of them including a trademark diving header. Maybe it was one of those games you were lucky enough to attend ? |