He could have had 4 headers and I've missed a chunk of the 2nd half

Spurs have had enough chances to at least get a result from crosses alone. Forest not as impenetrable as normal. Didn't seem interested in getting more once they got the second. Hope Spurs nick a point. Like to see teams punished for that.

If Pope passed he would walk (on water) into team

Dubrovka delighted

If Man City get a 20 point deduction this season they will still be ahead of Spurs

Just strip them of titles retrospectively if they've as alleged. Anything else is a slap on the wrist and sends a message that sportswashing works. You want to send the opposite message. The vast majority of fans globally will be delighted to see it, esp after UEFA did nothing.

Man City case wont be resolved for years if ever.

We all know exactly how this season will end for Ange

Make the Europa final, lose to Bilbao, sacked.

Levy yet again deflecting attention away from himself as if he's not the common denominator.

He sacked the man that beat him tonight, Nuno, who's flying, same as Conte, same as Jose.

When the Spuds have had Van De Ven fit, when all their best players have been fit, but Van De Ven in particular, they have looked a top 6 side, most of the season they haven't been.

It's also become very apparent to me that the media have a clear agenda against him and are trying to get him sacked, because he can be a bit pricky. That fat chump Alex Crook on talksport in particular never shuts about him.

Talksport one of the outlets who are CLEARLY cherry picking Anti Ange callers to come on and pile in.

I remember a few weeks when they lost to Chelsea away, every chance the spuds got, they tried to go forward and hit Chelsea on the break, yet callers where talking about his 'side ways' football? WTF?

There was no side ways football, he doesn't play sideways football, it's the opposite, probably to their detriment at times, makes you wonder if it's some numpty in the backrooms who's had the Ange treatment and they're all working together to get him out.

Kind Regards.

Forest invite you on to hit you on the break, they want you to push up and play a high line and hit you with a fast counter. That's not where their goals came from tonight really. They have one of the lowest possession stats in the league. It's their game plan. Spurs were poor for the goals and that was fatal but they created enough chances to win the game from crosses with a 2nd choice frontline. That was impressive and normally meat and drink to the Forest defence.

Not too bad a performance and the players weren't not playing for the manager. Talksport's business model is to start with a ridiculous, controversial take to generate engagement, same with most of the smarter people on social media who are looking to money from engagement. It's the low IQ mugs who take it all for real and engage.

There have been studies which show that if you say something on social media which is correct or with which most people agree, people won't respond to you and tell you 'i agree'. But if you do the opposite, you will get a plethora of replies and generate far more engagement which gains followers and money ultimately. More than half of the big accounts on SM do this, they don't actually believe what they say.

Nobody said award titles to other clubs. Just say they are stripped with no winner. Proper fans of pool and arsenal won't see them as titles, they'll see them as titles they were cheated out of celebrating by City and Pep. Everything enjoyable about winning a title is not there. It's just a stat.

Oh no Lurks, you didnt.
Not again.

Lord spare the world from the rantings of deluded Liv & Arsnl fans about Man City.

For the record Liverpools dominance in the 80s was because their owners were Littlewoods Pools. i.e. They were funded by the latter day version of the National Lottery.

And how the Gooners can have the brass neck to moan about Chelsea & City over the past years is nothing short of ridiculous.
Arsnl of course bought their way into the top division after the 1st World War and then went about denuding every half decent team in the North of England to buy their way to the title in the 30s.

This is NOT organic growth. It is throwing money at success.

Every one and his dog, barring Arsnl and Liv fans, know that the upshot of all these daft FA charges is that City will get off scot free. Maybe they will have to rinse Richard Masters throught the legal system, yet again. But there is not a parallel universe where City get relegated or lose their titles.

Past titles have been celebrated, and locked away.

If caught cheating then there should be a punishment but as with
previous cases there is only a made up punishment and not a definite
list.

Forest, oddly, are benefiting from breaking rules and taking small
hit, and any team coming up next season may need to do the same
to survive.

If you have to cheat to prosper the rules are wrong...

Since FFP every top club has operated within the rules and then you have one club who never has and another club who elevated themselves to a perennial CL club most of the time before the rules came in and prob didn't comply most of the time after that under a prev owner. Now the new owner has just sold his women's team to another of his vehicles for £200m!! It'll be another trick next year.

Everton/Forest have been non-compliant for different reasons, survival basically, which isn't right either. But you have 2 clubs pulling intelligence insulting strokes every year. City having higher commercial revenues than Real Madrid etc. How is it proper competition when everyone else plays fair and they don't?

City and Chelsea were poorly run for decades. City were 3rd tier on their own means, Chelsea was sold for £1 because of it's debt. United Pool Arsenal were always well run for decades, that's why they're 'big', despite long barren periods with little success. Decades of sustainable operation with ups and downs made these clubs big.

The finianicial fair play rules seem crazy.

Sell an academy player,then allowed 4 times the fee to be spent on transfers.

Mctomminey sold for 25 mill,to buy onana.

It’s creating the complete opposite effect ,that it’s been set up to solve.

Clubs pushing to give home grown players debuts,so they can sell them and buy foreign players at 4 times the cost.

Imagine if you had the greatest academy,with 1000 players in it.so the club never ever needed to buy a player,because the talent pool was so vast ,you had a player available.

That effectively means ,20 scouts,100 agents,5 sporting directors were all pointless,

Allthough this might make great business sense and lead to the teams long term success.youd be seen as a phariah within the game.

The transfer churn,is the oil that fuels the game,keeps everyone paid and being seen to be essential.

11 home grown players and a manager winning the league,means only 12 people make money,

Within a few years,the top 6 will be filled with players all all came from acamdemies,but not the clubs academies they played for.

The premier league have rules forcing clubs to spend x amount on academies.so we have the best conveyor belt of talent of any country in the world.

But then clubs decide to buy players who were in African,South American kids teams,

Cole palmer,played for England from being 15, years at city academy,was seen as too slight to progress,he was 6 ft 1 tall.he scored a hat trick on his debut for city,so 10 years coaching him,makes first team,scores hat trick..

Hey ,let’s sell him.we d 40 million,

Which means we can spend 160 million.

The agents and sporting directors must of pushed hard to get that sale over the line.

They d get nothing he he stayed at city,

Why does it happen,why does no one stop it.

Because who would speak up,you’d just nod along and collect your cut.youd be mad to rock the boat.

We should just streamline all this.

Call man united acdemy liverpools academy,city’s ,Everton’s and so on.then just keep the players you’ve got registered to the paired up club.
Dish out 50 million a year to sporting directors and agents.but at least then the players can just stay put,just change the jersey.

Latarps, you and many of your fellow spuds have been incredibly bitter about Arsenal being promoted by hand 106 years ago after World War 1, whilst Arsenal were democratically elected back to the top flight and by some distance, 18 votes to your 8, it was never proven that there was any wrong doing. The argument put forward was that Arsenal as first ever southern league club had a long service to football and deserved to be included.

However, neither Arsenal or Tottenham had any real claim to take that final spot in 1919/20 after WW1 after the expansion of the top league, we had finished 5th in the second tier, you had finished rock bottom in the top tier, so it's laughable spuds make bitter points about this as if we robbed you of a place, you had no business even lobbying to remain in the first place and neither did we have to be included, it should have gone to Barnsley who finished 3rd in the 2nd tier before the war, and the next team in line for automatic promotion, along with Preston and Derby, it's Barnsley who should feel bitter and them who were robbed. Chelsea had a claim to remain in the top tier after finishing 2nd bottom in 1915 because United had fixed a game against them.

If Sir Henry Norris was up to no good, he had some amazing contacts to get 18 different clubs to vote for us and one way or another, it's not you who feels hard done by, it's the Tykes.

Arsenal also didn't do anything that was against the rules in the 30's, they simply identified the best players and got them.

And this whole 'moving onto your turf' thing, when Arsenal moved to North London in 1913 it was because we had no choice, we were in Plumstead, there was fk all there, transport links were poor, still is relatively speaking, ground ran along an open sewer and so as you can imagine, crowds werent the best. We were even close to merging with Fulham and could have ended up there, think our owner owned them as well, how times have changed.

Yet even when we moved to Highbury, which is North London, we didn't actually encroach on your territory, that's because you weren't even in London you were a Middlesex club, you was not even absorbed into the Greater London area until 52 years later - we were a London club before you were, we were always a London club regardless of which side of the river we were born on. Moving less than 10 miles within the same city is hardly a big deal, not like it's Wimbledon taking themselves out of London plonking themselves in Milton Keynes for no apparent reason is it.

And whilst I'm on a history tour, did you know the reason why we play in Red is because of Nottingham Forest, we signed a couple of their players from Forest and they brought there own, they then called a favour and brought more down as we were brassic, and Sparta Prague play in Red in turn because of us after their president saw us play in London in 1906, the white sleeves came along thanks to Champan who apparently saw someone at the training ground wearing a red sleeveless sweater over a white shirt. And as for the Spuds the current white shirts apparently were a homage to Preston who dominated at over 100  years ago, but you started with a Navy Blue shirt emblazoned with a RED H, then for a six year period between 1890-96 your entire shirt was RED.

Bet you didn't know that. You've learned a few things tonight.


Kind Regards.

Crisp77 - If Man City get a 20 point deduction this season they will still be ahead of Spurs

rofl. And Spurs have a good chance of winning a European trophy, looking at the opposition.

I'm sure the verdict will come down before the start of the new season and will be a fine and points. What will be disgraceful is if they do a "F1 Verstappen" and the penalties are not enough to make a difference.

Man City emails showed they lied about dealings
and therefore deserve investigation and if guilty
then punishment follows.

Nowt to do with clubs buying a place at top table
as there is not other way to get there.

And as City's owners have absolute power in Abu Dhabi we will never know if any financial shenanigans went on there. Think signing on bonuses paid for in penthouses. Gold bars waiting in hotel rooms.

There are emails sent by city to each other explaining how
they are cheating the system.

This triggered the investigation.

If they are real then they need to be punished.