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just admit you support the lionesses and we can get back to the theme of the original thread which is xabi alonso has Leverkusen playing their best football for some time and is so happy there he has turned down a managerial return to liverpool....getting beat by them is no shame but frustrating the goals came late so it will be a massive challenge to overturn the probable outcome but not impossible.....the good thing for fatty is they are at home and have to be more attacking as they require goals but if they can match the 2-0 it will be a coin toss in extra time......
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Thing is The personnel that’s available to play we ain’t got no one
Forget 2-0 Bowen injured pac man Suspend Emerson suspended Dino came off injured We ain’t got a team field let alone go attack score goals against a very well run team |
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"That European Cup winners competition was no better than the Conference win" Here's a list of the sort of winners: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Cup_Winners%27_Cup
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That year we won it was 1965 and no other year.
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The teams we played that year were La Gantoise, Sparta Prague, Lausanne, Real Zaragoza and TSV Munich 1860.
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Probably led to England winning world cup.
Of course the 1964 FA cup helped too... |
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You remember it well, yhtl?
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I have no recollection of 64 cup.
I remember tokyo Olympics just... I remember watching 65 cwc final, or maybe highlites of it on the day,... Remember 66 world cup |
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My point was that winning that European competition in 1965 was no great achievement and we have to remember that the squad with all those great players we had never finished higher than 8th place in the 60s. We simply couldn't defend because the manager Greenwood wouldn't listen to his captain. As I always say read Bobby Moore's book as its all in there.
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I think it was a fantastic achievement but fully get your point as you
are talking about your club, and see things day to day over 50 and more years that we miss. Newcastle could never defend either! Rafa taught them, and Howe defends via his high press which can turn into a parked bus at times. Not quite there yet! |
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The old Cup Winner's Cup was certainly stronger than the Conference thing.
The top 6 teams from the strongest leagues are excluded from the conference, as well as the top 3 or 4 from most other leagues. The CWC would typically have the 2nd or 3rd best team from all leagues, and at that time being 2nd best in Czechoslovakia or Switzerland did not mean you were a no hoper (because there was more parity between leagues) |
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The year we won it we beat Munich 1860 who won the Bundesliga the following year. It was a prestigious tournament competed by winners and all the sides in it played their strongest teams from the start whereas the conference cup is a mickey mouse losers tournament where most of the better teams don't even bother to put out their strongest teams until later stages. Some of those teams would struggle in the Championship. It's just another tournament created to extract money from the fans. They'll have one for teams that finish halfway in their league next.
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chelsea be interested
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Well bindaree, what do you say about this same team who never finished higher than 8th place in the 60s yet Moyes has achieved 6th and 7th placings. How do you compare the two because as far as I'm concerned league placings are the true barometer?
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Moyes has got 2(at least) of the best players in the world
which of course Greenwood had too. Maybe Greenwood would be suited to this squad and Moyes to the 60s team, certainly he would build around Moore! Maybe... |
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Some truth in that yhtl as you can't be successful if you can't defend. Time and again we scored some great goals in the 60s and gave away stupid ones but eventually you learn the lesson. It took me to 1968 to realise this after a game at home to Stoke where we led 3-0 at half time and lost 4-3 and it finally dawned on me!..
Here is that game... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaJlSUWOpPg |