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And buying players that Chelsea deem no longer good enough for them is not going to get Arsenal to where they want to be, which is ehh top 4 like Chelsea. That shouldn't be hard to understand but they still haven't learned that. Abraham isn't a patch on Auba as a striker. Play Auba in his correct position and play to his strengths and he will get 20 a season. He still scored goals from the left under Arteta until teams copped on not to leave space in behind for him to run into and Arteta hasn't got any other tactics. There is talk of Arteta wanting to offload Auba now - there will be at least 2 big CL clubs interested if that happens.
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Agreed Auba is a great striker and without his goals in recent years, we may well have been in relegation battles. Tammy is the type of striker we need to play alongside Auba, think the duo would have worked well together.
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Matter of time now
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Not sure who is available but starting to think Allardyce is a realistic possibility until the summer at least
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That is funny to think that Arsenal need big Sam
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Arse still bottom
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Tony Adams just landed City airport.
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my sources at AFC inform me that Eddie Ow is their guy. He'll be Arsenal manager by mid October.
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Arsenal v Norwich next - 20th v 19th
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A proverbial six-pointer.
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Lurka you talk a lot of sense about Arsenal - you should be manager
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Arsenal football club are in a shambles ,players not turning up for training on time,they have not even scored a league goal,and are rock bottom of the premier league.Now the name of BIG SAM should scare the living daylights out of these little brats who think a blond rinse hair style is more important than training,BIG SAM would sort these prima donna's out in one hour.ARTETA can not handle these guys and must go Today.66 YEAR OLD BIG SAM IS THE MAN TO GET THE MIGHTY GUNNERS BACK ON TRACK.
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Re Willian. He was a free-agent but Chelsea had apparently offered him a 2 year deal and he knew that he wouldn't be first choice under Lampard esp with Werner and Havertz joining. Arteta offered him a 3 year deal and told him he'd be first choice, which he was. There was no fee which is why his wages were so high (200K+ pw), so all Chelsea saved was wasted wages really.
In fairness to Willian, he has apparently left to go to Corinthians and foregone a larger pay off and saved Arsenal £15-20m according to reports. That's decent of him, a guy who just wants to play football and not steal a living when he hasn't justified his cost. Ozil tweeted out 'Trust the process' with a broken heart shortly after the final whistle yesterday. That seems to be a dig at Arteta and indicates that Arteta is the reason he didn't play at all after the resumption and not because of pressure from China as a lot of people seemed to think. When you think of how Arsenal struggled up until Christmas last season, had 14 points from 14 games scoring 12 goals (8 points and 7 goals in the last 12 of those 14 games) and creating very few chances it just shows how much of a dictator Arteta can be, if he is the reason. I wanted Ozil gone but the team was crying out for him then. Emery dropped him too but the team never had a problem scoring under Emery. |
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will i arnt was a disaster signing for chelski never mind arsenal,anyone who watches sky/motd never mind so called tactical genius wont be the slightest bit surprised by will i arnts performances at arsenal ,hr after hr of video evidence,
amongst all the problems at arsenal any man who took/takes that job should have 3 go;lden rules no matter how many injuries,i,ll play any squad player/junior before i even consider playing holding,chambers or chaka all 3 are a suicide note with seasons upon seasons,games upon games,hours upon hours of evidence to look at but arteta seems to no better |
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I agree with you 1st tp. And the present goalkeeper is poor too.
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The problems over there go deeper than the manager. When they appointed edu I naively assumed that because he was an ex player he had the club's best interests at heart. Now I can't work out weather it was the superagent's influence that got him the job or weather he brought the super agent on board either way they are poison imo. Just a hunch I don't support them so probably talking b ollocks
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I have sympathy for Arsenal fans. It can't be fun watching such consistently poor performances/results with the result that your once "invincible" team is now only just better than average. I don't suppose Arteta is feeling any better to be fair. He must be absolutely distraught that so much is going wrong. For me he is in a job for which he is not equipped and I would very much like to see him not physically accosted in public, or his family, by misguided fans. Fans are very emotional - it's the nature of following a football club - but they really need to be directing their verbal venom at the board who, like boards everywhere, hide away from trouble.
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the board aint picking holding,chambers, chaka,chamnbers been loaned/pawned out more times than del boys jewellery
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I don't disagree but does he have any other defensive options?
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he,s in a transfer window if he hasnt got back up he should have
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The guy is a bluffer, he hasn't a clue, the atmosphere in the Emirates is like a morgue.
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5th in the league and above Spurs with an awful team. Pound for pound he could be one of the best in the league.
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Very poor in terms of chances created from open play and chances given away. He got a set piece coach in from City in the summer and until recently something like half their goals came from set-pieces. He and Ramsdale are covering for his deficiencies big-time. They are better at beating the inferior sides so far this season as a result but nowhere nearer the top teams in head to head matches.
Ben White is a good player if you are a passing stats nerd but he is an awful defender and a liability at the back, esp against the top sides. For all the praise from Sky for Ramsdale at Anfield last week, nearly all his saves were straight at him and he was poor for the first two goals. A good signing and a big improvement on Leno tho. |
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Well done Mikel Arteta. You have shown some bottle and grit this year after the quite shameful personal ( and family ) attacks you endured and the vicious bile and abuse you received on here. You have fearlessly shown big-head Aubameyang just who is boss and your side has responded, to prove you right. And you have also shut Ian Wright's gob. Both big achievements in my eyes. Hope you have a great second half to the season.
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Has he gone yet?
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BULLET TOOTH TONY
BULLET TOOTH TONY 18 Aug 21 22:14 Joined: 24 Aug 04 | Topic/replies: 3,548 | Blogger: BULLET TOOTH TONY's blog Odegaard, White and Ramsdale....... Arsenal really wetting the apetitie of Arsenal supporters Love this thread….an absolute mugfest. |
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Wondering what thread will end up being more classic, tobermory's Arteta out thread after he wins the league title and Champions League next year or my Haaland is poor value for top scorer thread, after scoring 50 premier league goals, 30 ahead of everyone else.
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What I like about you mes is that you’re prepared to put your head above the parapet, unlike most. And you’re able to poke fun at yourself.
Don’t think Arsenal will win the league, they’ll be happy with top 4 in their rebuilding process, but Haarland will be top scorer. |
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Epic thread.
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Mea maxima culpa
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but.....
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I do not fancy Arsenal at all. I believe come end of January/early Feb 2023 Arsenal would be languishing outside top-4 when Liverpool and Man Utd begin to advance.
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They are improving. They have a little more steel. They have confidence and pace. Will they get lumps kicked out of them in the frozen North? The North remembers!
Will they still lose the ball on the edge of the opposition box and be countered? Nobody is fully convinced. They are getting better and stronger physically and mentally. I am still thinking a Douglas Ruiz might give them a real counter attacking flair when they have to dig deep and sit. He is a good tackler but has an amazing long pass for youngsters running on. Their future burns brighter than any of “ The Rest “. |
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Really poor again today. Could have lost by 3 or 4. He has to go.
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But we haven't played anyone yet, they said, then we go and beat two of the top 6 back to back.
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I think Fink and others who supported Arteta a year ago can feel justifiably smug about supporting him.
I do think he has done well since then; creating a situation where the best players are the youngest players. And the young players are really good. Getting shot of Aubemayang and Lacazette is a bit like when George Graham got rid of Mariner and Woodcock in 1986. Quality players who no longer had the desire, and weren't going to be long term anyway. Ultimately though, to be a successful Arsenal manager, you have to be challenging for the title and/or the Champion's League in April (October don't count). Hopefully he will have a team that can do this (not necessarily this season) It was promising how much they went for the win against Liverpool. 'Top 4 trophy' mentality would have accepted the draw (or even a loss!) |
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For all the credit Arteta gets for getting rid of Auba (at a cost of £7m and 3 times that in wasted wages) you have to remember that it was he who wanted him to stay on £350k a week and play him in a position which didn't suit him and which he was almost instantly visibly unhappy with.
He didn't 'get rid' of Laca either. Laca left on a free and was first choice in his final year when he was absolutely woeful. I suppose you can give him 'credit' for not offering him a new deal but then you have to criticise him for doing exactly that with Auba. He is the only Arsenal manager who Auba didn't score at an elite level under. Play him as a box 9 between the posts running towards goal or let him leave. Don't double his wages to play him on the left or false 9. |