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whats the gig,any cheats etc for this weeks epl games

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By:
lurka
When: 02 Dec 19 14:51
I'd imagine the streams from foreign channels will be ahead of Amazon streams
By:
Angoose
When: 02 Dec 19 15:10
Amazon streams for tennis are anything between 45 seconds and a minute behind live Cry
By:
1st time poster
When: 02 Dec 19 15:50
they don't seem to be doing much marketing,advertising about their epl coverage
By:
HGS
When: 02 Dec 19 16:10
For those who haven't yet used them, you can get a 30 day free trial which will include both sets of fixtures that they have. 3/4/5 Dec and Boxing day. Watch it all for free and just remember to cancel afterwards.
By:
Angoose
When: 02 Dec 19 16:57
They've got the recently released Andy Murray documentary Resurfaced.
Well worth a watch.
By:
trilby22
When: 02 Dec 19 17:46
Accidently joined Prime last week.  Looking forward to seeing the standard of their coverage this week.
By:
trilby22
When: 02 Dec 19 17:50
https://www.amazon.co.uk/b?node=17025299031
By:
Crisp77
When: 02 Dec 19 18:14
Can't we send it back for refund if we don't like the result
By:
badjoe
When: 02 Dec 19 18:35

Dec 2, 2019 -- 4:57PM, Angoose wrote:


They've got the recently released Andy Murray documentary Resurfaced.Well worth a watch.


It's a good watch, have to respect Andy's determination to get back into the game, though some of the people he surrounds himself with are bit suspect IMO.

By:
badjoe
When: 02 Dec 19 18:40

Dec 2, 2019 -- 5:46PM, trilby22 wrote:


Accidently joined Prime last week.

By:
badjoe
When: 02 Dec 19 18:44
^^^^^^

I always join Amazon Prime at this time of year for the next day delivery for prezzies and more importantly, to RAM RAID Amazon Pantry for our Xmas BOOZE and stick two fingers up to Sturgeon and her attempted forage into prohibition territory. Cool
By:
lybertyne
When: 02 Dec 19 19:32
I gave up with BT Sport due to the delay.  I was watching a corner whilst in real life a goal was being scored at the other end.  I accept a few seconds delay but at what point does it cease being "live"?
By:
JC1326
When: 02 Dec 19 20:22
''Cheats''? It's £5.99, you cheap mug. Plus you get a bunch of movies and TV shows AND all the Boxing Day matches.
By:
JC1326
When: 02 Dec 19 20:22
For a month...
By:
RothmanMike
When: 02 Dec 19 20:33
Do you get free entry to any of the matches with that.
By:
badjoe
When: 02 Dec 19 20:52

Dec 2, 2019 -- 8:22PM, JC1326 wrote:


''Cheats''? It's £5.99, you cheap mug. Plus you get a bunch of movies and TV shows AND all the Boxing Day matches.


It's £7.99 a month, JC1326 is d!ck and he does not understand what the OP was referring to, as he is a d!ck, as previously mentioned. HTH

By:
n88uk
When: 02 Dec 19 23:55
Wonder how many people are in for a shock this work when the likes of goal alert on their phone tells them the goals before their TV does.

Amazon do really need to work on this as until they sort this out streaming just isn't going to be the future if it's 45 seconds behind real time.
By:
roache
When: 03 Dec 19 00:05
All the usual gravy trainers will be popping up this week on Amazon prime presenting and analysing the games as freelancers.
By:
Angoose
When: 03 Dec 19 08:42
Why are there Premier League games on at weird times this midweek? Why can't I find any in the TV guide? And will social media ruin goals for me?

These are valid questions. So what's going on?

It's all to do with Amazon's new deal with the Premier League - and BBC Sport has the answers.

What's on when?
There are 10 games being played this week, all either kicking off at 19:30 or 20:15 GMT - neither, of course, are standard kick-off times. All are available to watch legally in the UK.

Highlights include Jose Mourinho's return to Manchester United with Tottenham and the Merseyside derby.

Tuesday, 3 December
Crystal Palace v Bournemouth - 19:30**
Burnley v Manchester City - 20:15**

Wednesday, 4 December
Chelsea v Aston Villa - 19:30
Leicester City v Watford - 19:30
Manchester United v Tottenham Hotspur - 19:30**
Southampton v Norwich City - 19:30
Wolverhampton Wanderers v West Ham United - 19:30
Liverpool v Everton - 20:15**

Thursday, 5 December
Sheffield United v Newcastle United - 19:30**
Arsenal v Brighton and Hove Albion - 20:15**

**all of these games will have commentary on BBC Radio 5 Live or Sports Extra

How can I watch? Will it cost money?
The only way to watch these games is online, via streaming service Amazon Prime Video. Subscription to the service costs £7.99 a month - although it does offer a 30-day free trial.

Subscribers can stream the games on computers, phones, tablets and some smart TVs, set-top boxes, streaming devices and consoles.

How much did Amazon pay, and why is it doing this?
It is not known how much money Amazon paid for its 20-games-a-season three-year contract. It also has the exclusive rights for the Boxing Day round of games on 26 and 27 December.

BT Sport paid £90m for a similar package of 20 games a year.

The Premier League splits its games into several chunks, mostly shared by Sky Sports and BT, but it offered two small packages of 20 games to see if any online giants like Amazon, Netflix, Google, Facebook and Apple were interested.

England's top flight had hoped for a bidding war between those companies but it did not materialise.

It is thought the total spent fell short of the previous £5.14bn deal, given Sky and BT parted with £4.55bn for the three years.

Amazon sees it as a low-risk way to explore the potential of streaming Premier League games before deciding whether to mount a big challenge next time (from 2022-23).

It is, however, seen as a loss-leader. The reason it is doing this now is to attract customers to its website over the Christmas period, with its service also including free delivery on many items.

Why is it significant?
This is the first time 'televised' Premier League games in the UK will not be on a traditional TV channel. Sky has held live rights since the competition's formation in 1992, BT since 2013. Before that, ESPN held right for four years from 2009, and Setanta showed matches for two seasons before that. ITV Digital, under the ITV Sport Select banner, simulcast pay-per-view matches with Sky during the 2001-02 season.

Amazon will hope this goes better than it did for the last online broadcaster to show games in the UK.

Eleven Sports won rights for La Liga and Serie A on three-year deals at the start of last season. However, by February it no longer had exclusive rights for either and no longer shows any games from either league.

The major difference there, however, is that it had to build up a subscriber base from nothing - and at the start of the season had no options to cast to a TV.

Reports earlier this year claimed 15 million people in the UK subscribe to Amazon Prime.

How seriously is Amazon taking it?
Amazon is going big, with 43 presenters, commentators and pundits signed up - including high-profile ex-players Alan Shearer, Jermaine Jenas, Michael Owen and Thierry Henry - and well known broadcasters such as Gabby Logan, Conor McNamara and Guy Mowbray.

Each game will be broadcast live and there will also be a separate goals show.

With staggered matches each day, fans will be able to watch the first half of a 19:30 GMT game and then the 20:15 GMT match (or an entire early game and then some of the later one).

Does Amazon cover other sports?
Amazon shows 41 separate events on the ATP Tour in tennis, including the US Open and ATP Finals.

Its first major event was the 2018 US Open, which did not go well. Some 71% of users who reviewed it on the website gave it one star out of five. Some complained about picture quality, the sound not syncing up, buffering and about the lack of functions - such as the ability to rewind or pause.

Since then things have improved. But the Times says Amazon has been talking to internet providers, with concerns the demand for Premier League games will cause streaming problems.

Will there be a delay as I'm streaming?
Yes, unfortunately you're going to see things a short while after they actually happen, so if you don't prepare properly you might know about a goal before you see it hit the back of the net. This is normal with online streaming.

Analysts from streaming firm Phenix said Amazon's broadcast of the US Open was often up to 45 seconds behind the TV transmission.

The BBC has worked out how to eliminate streaming lag - but it could take years for that fix to be implemented.

So for the meantime, fans might have to avoid watching the games alongside Twitter updates, text messaging or BBC Sport goal alerts. Or even, gulp, put your phone down for 45 minutes.
By:
lurka
When: 03 Dec 19 09:51
Most likely will be disastrous. Don't think their service or the UK's broadband network are up to this level of interest, especially where people can sign up for free. Good chance they will have to offer the Boxing Day games on a normal TV channel to relieve the pressure on both over Xmas when demand will be even higher. They need to get their app onto the major tv boxes or better still, an Amazon Prime channel, if they want this to work.
By:
anxious
When: 03 Dec 19 11:35
Shearer , jenas etci thought they were on the bbc payroll , must have gone on loan , another example of spiv culture at work this what a load of sh1te
By:
n88uk
When: 03 Dec 19 11:48
The picture quality is exceptional assuming you have good enough internet to support as such. That's another thing I'm not sure people out in the countryside without access to good internet will be happy with this. If you can get over it being 45 seconds behind it was actually pretty decent for the tennis, however that is a game changer for many as well.
By:
inner city sumo
When: 03 Dec 19 12:07
Expect lower liquidity all round on these Amazon games. Before and during.
By:
JC1326
When: 03 Dec 19 12:37

Dec 2, 2019 -- 8:52PM, badjoe wrote:


Dec  2, 2019 --  8:22PM, JC1326 wrote:''Cheats''? It's £5.99, you cheap mug. Plus you get a bunch of movies and TV shows AND all the Boxing Day matches.It's £7.99 a month, JC1326 is d!ck and he does not understand what the OP was referring to, as he is a d!ck, as previously mentioned. HTH


You idiot. Prime is £7.99 a month. Just the video, which is all you need for the matches, is £5.99. As clueless about Amazon as you are about punting.

By:
trilby22
When: 03 Dec 19 13:47
Numbers not Joe's best subject Laugh See Rangers fred ... BlushGrin

Meanwhile, https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/premier-league/amazon-primes-premier-league-fixtures-could-herald-a-new-age-of-on-demand-football-so-what-will-change/ar-BBXCKFG?ocid=spartandhp
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By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 03 Dec 19 13:56
Big advantage for courtsiders

Laugh
By:
n88uk
When: 03 Dec 19 16:09

Dec 3, 2019 -- 12:07PM, inner city sumo wrote:


Expect lower liquidity all round on these Amazon games. Before and during.


Why? The major market seeders will have access to up to date pictures.

By:
tobermory
When: 03 Dec 19 17:40
Virgin Media has an app for Amazon Prime so wouldn't have to have a smart TV.
By:
Angoose
When: 03 Dec 19 17:47
You can watch on a range of devices, from memory up to three simultaneously with two of these being allowed to be the same programme.
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 03 Dec 19 19:31
Whats the time lag?

minute!!!

LaughDevilGrin
By:
toonangel
When: 03 Dec 19 19:35
will the time lag help the Bournemouth players as they always seem to be 30 seconds behind play anyway? lol
By:
Angoose
When: 03 Dec 19 19:38
iPad three seconds behind smart tv, need to find a way to measure difference to live
only twelve seconds if live score clock is reliable but far from certain about that
By:
Des Pond
When: 03 Dec 19 19:40
I've taken the free trial, although only for December. I'll get these midweek games and Boxing Day games for nowt, with the bonus of free delivery for christmas presents etc. It's about 31 seconds behind digital radio, which is quite a few seconds behinds medium wave, so probably abot 40 seconds or so altogether. So, probably less of a lag than Now TV, which isn't saying much.
By:
Angoose
When: 03 Dec 19 19:41
Tennis is around 45 seconds to a minute behind so that is consistent
By:
tobermory
When: 03 Dec 19 19:47

Dec 3, 2019 -- 7:35PM, toonangel wrote:


will the time lag help the Bournemouth players as they always seem to be 30 seconds behind play anyway? lol


Laugh

By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 03 Dec 19 19:50
Apparently you have the option to mute commentary
but still have the crowd
NOISE

Weird

Devil
By:
Angoose
When: 03 Dec 19 19:51
RED CARD
By:
morpteh mackem
When: 03 Dec 19 19:52
what was he thinking ??
By:
Angoose
When: 03 Dec 19 19:59
He wasn't.
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