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VAR has ruined the Women's World Cup for me.
But then what can we expect from the most corrupt sport's organization of all time (FIFA)? |
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VAR is intended to assist in the accurate implementation of the laws, but given that the people 'in charge' have so much invested in its success, how long before they starting making changes to the laws to 'make VAR work better'.
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There are times when I think it is a good idea but there are so many subjective judgements in football rules that no amount or replays can resolve them.
1. VAR can tell you for sure if a ball crosses a line so should be used. 2. If a foul is inside or outside the penalty area, VAR should be able to resolve any doubt, provided that the rule is clear about where a foul is committed? 3. Handball should be a clear yes or no. If it strikes an arm below the shoulder it is handball. Scrap this intent rule as it always divides opinion. 4. The interpretation of goalkeepers moving at penalties has changed the game as referees gave some latitude but VAR does not. The percentage of penalties scored should go up a lot if they persist with this strict rule about standing on the line. |
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I'm all FOR it... It's quite exciting waiting for the "verdict" to come through. Maybe not good for the ticker if you have a big bet on the match.
I do agree that they should show it on decent screens inside the stadium, so fans know what's going on. Hopefully it will stop the constant diving for penalties and the "big" clubs getting decisions go in their favour. (I have been going to matches regularly since 1974) |
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Nobody who loves football wants VAR.
It is ruining the game and has already proved that it is being used to help the teams that FIFA / UEFA want to go through. Besides that last season in English and in European competitions, almost every VAR decision was wrong. Replaying obvious dives in the box and then watching it being given as a penalty just spoils football for most people. Just one more way for the authorities to guarantee that they get the teams they want to win. |
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So basically, the complete opposite of what I posted.
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I love soccer and I am for VAR. Did you do a survey of all football/soccer fans? |
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Who decides what gets reviewed?..Scotland had a clear peno that wasnt even reviewed!!
Another way to let big teams prosper..France Usa will be hilarious. |
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also problem is refs will use it as a reliance tool ie no courage of convictions . ref in german nigeria game was hopeless, how 1st german goal isn't offside is incredible and how the penalty even needed to be referred was ridiculous .
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Can’t wait for next season
No 0-0 and draws And going to be riots at every game |
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What's happened in this game tonight (England vs Cameroon) is just the beginning. VAR is a Pandora's box and there will be huge problems when it
comes to the Men's game. The Women's World Cup hasn't just been marred by VAR it's been turned into a farce! |
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from the little i've seen of the wwc the officiating has been poor and VAR too compared to the week in week out stuff from the bundesliga etc so probably best not to use examples from this
was interested to see the female pundits implying that the best officials were not being used for the tournament (ie the men who officiate the top leagues), i think this is something women pundits can get away |
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Against. It's in danger of creating a two tier sport where the rules are enforced completely differently in leagues and competitions where VAR is used to those that it isn't.
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why does that matter shrewd dude? it shouldn't affect the other competition. every competition is an individual entity.
people who are complaining about VAR are probably the same people who said "why have you invented a round thing , it won't work " when a bloke came up with the wheel. it's here to stay, it's a good innovation so get f****g used to it. |
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VAR is a joke in so many ways. Along with the new interpretation of the handball law it's destroying football. You can only laugh at it now as it's a total embarrassment. I have no idea about the Bundesliga, but along with this Women's world cup, last years mens world cup along with this years Champions League was ruined by so many ludicrous decisions of which VAR played a massive part so you cannttput it down to these officials. For offsides it works pretty well though i'd still prefer to see a small margin of error if it's here to stay as I don't believe the technology is 100% accurate. For anything else VAR should be binned. Of course it won't be but then football as we used to know it is finished. The Championship will be much more enjoyable to watch than the Premier League next season when VAR is introduced.
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Because you're going to get daft situations like we are now. I've never watched a game where a penalty has been retaken because the keeper moved off the line and I doubt I will ever see one. Now I've seen a couple in the last week because of VAR. It's daft to have a sport where the rules will be interpreted differently depending on what competition a player is currently playing in.
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@asparagus
The standard of referees and linesmen in Championship is appalling IMO, and I say this as an ex ref |
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* I doubt I will ever see one in a non VAR game.
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If VAR had proper guidelines for what it set out to do i.e. clear and obvious errors it may work however it is far too negative for the sport an example being in tonights Colombis match whereby Colombias 2nd goal was ruled out by VAR,the circs being that the Colombian forward was just inside the penalty box when he received a cross and controlled it on his thigh and in so doing the ball went upwards and ever so slightly glanced of his arm,this glance did not change the direction of the ball nor was there a defender within 5 yards of him and then he struck the ball on the half volley when the ball dropped to the ground and fired it into the net,great goal no Handball no intention of handball the ball did not change direction at any point and none of the opposition was even aware of this small glance from part of his arm then VAR get involved and the goal gets cancelled, is this what FIFA want to rule out perfectly good goals because they cannot bring in common sense rules as to what constitutes foul hand ball, to me FIFA are incompetent in administering the rules of our game.
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look, VAR is supposed to ensure we get the right decision. how many times has it been used incorrectly? once? the keepers know the rule is yuo have to stay on your line. the offside rule is the offside rule. the only cloudy thing is the handbll rule which is open to interpretatin but it alwas has been. VAR is there to help the referees arrive at the correct decision and i along with pierluigi collina believe it's doing a fabulous job at helping the referees to do that. so for christ sake STFU about it
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the game today had 19 minutes of added on time because of VAR, it's getting as bad as American football, you'll need to take your dinner to the game. cheers.
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But this is why we don't STFU as VAR is a complete shambles and is not even consistent as in Womans world cup earlier this week own goal scored from an header with forward offside interfering with play thats why the defender went to head it,VAR over rule offside and give goal.
Today goal scored with a striker offside but never interfering with play or in the eye line of the keeper and VAR disallow the goal so in these 2 small samples VAR got both decisions wrong Pierluigi. |
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sageform 22 Jun 19 20:58 3. If it strikes an arm below the shoulder it is handball. Scrap this intent rule as it always divides opinion worked just fine for 120 yrs cant ever remember any suggestion that actual deliberate seeking-to-gain-an-advantage handballs have become a serious problem in the game and yet here we are, using a sledgehammer to crack a nut and doing our best to turn the game into a lottery...sane people arguing that the ball accidentally touching someone's elbow or finger or whatever is worthy of a penalty kick is something i will never understand  |
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Worked fine without VAR.
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In this tournament it has been a disaster.
Either the process is made much quicker or it should be scrapped. If a game goes to extra time you could be adding virtually 30 minutes on to 30 minutes. VAR will never completely eliminate controversy. You saw that with the second penalty for the USA. Some would have given, some not. Referee gave the penalty and probably didn't think there was enough in VAR to reverse the decision. Had she not given it she would probably have confirmed that decision. |
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Just use it for offsides and other line decisions (penalty in or outside the box).
NEVER use it for penalties. It will lead to more theatrical falls like today. |
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I am getting fed up of penalties given for blasting the ball against the defender.
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i think if they are going to keep it the way it is, then surely the time keeping of the match should be taken away from referees...there should be a clock / clocks in the ground that can be stopped immediately when the ref has to stop the game to go to the VAR telly...
i am all for getting the correct decisions, but what happened to the offside law when there was supposed to be daylight between the defender and attacker ??? i mean after all, that cameroon goal would have stood not so long ago... i think there are many good points on here and i certainly agree with injera and roache on their points, and handball inside the box will aleways be contentious... i do certainly like the idea of just using VAR for line decisions only, although in saying that, i think some of the challenges that have gone in in this tournament are far more deserving of a red card rather than yellow...and not meaning to appear sexist, maybe if some of the refs for these games had been men, then maybe some different decisions would have been made |