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Definitely against goal line technology is adequate.
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agree with above post re gl technology. gone too far . people make mistakes its part of life , players don't get a second chance ( stirker misses an open goal, keeper fumbles a shot ) , neither should refs/linos.
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I'm still for and will wait for the conclusion of the 19/20 season. If they don't iron out the obvious flaws then will probably change stance
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aspro, think authorities have said its an irreversible process
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If people get turned off they'll change mm
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would hope so
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In all sports, I'm against anything that is a judgement call / not instantaneous
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Against..anyone who's been to a pro game will know it's all about the passion and human mistakes will always be made,VAR will not eliminate those mistakes.
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Works in cricket and if debateable umpire decisiom is upheld.
This hasn't been the case in football, it is so slow, they have to watch loads of times then basically tell the ref to watch it loads of times and change their mind. Glad i only watch a non league team, but would gladly give up my season ticket if it was brought in at my team. So slow and not able to see at ground. Everything would be a penalty or re-take if they look close enough. |
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i was against it, but goal line tech works well, offside should work well too.
they have clarified hand ball laws, so VAR should work better they can check for goalies stepping off line at pelanties, and encroachment too. they still, imo, should have margin of error where refs first view stands. its going to be rubbish for fans in grounds unless improvements to screens and process are made.....who cares about the fans ? |
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doesnt help when they have an epileptic on the rewind button like the other night...nor does it help when they change the rules (handball, pens, offside) at roughly the same time VAR is being introduced, particularly when most of those rule changes make no sense
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I was against VAR when it first came in and still am, the BF rules have cost me and its difficult sometimes placing bets when i dont know how far delayed the feed is and then can sometimes not know if i'm on or not given bets are voided, also BF have an annoying habit of closing a market when a 'goal' is scored but not reopening it when VAR rules it out, or taking 10 minutes to do so.
From a football pov i'd also prefer not to have it but it actually doesnt work too badly in the 2 years I've watched it in other leagues, offside has improved a lot. Of course the odd decision is strange but I'd say 9/10 for penalty decisions I can call it as its much more consistent even if you disagree with how say handball works. It takes a lot away from the game that goals cannot be celebrated the same so entertainment drops but thats the price for consistency that everyone calls for week in week out. |
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I think VAR can be a good thing but certainly not the way FIFA have implemented it but there is no turning back now for the elite level and if FIFA continues down the route they have taken then in a few years every single decision by the ref will be reviewed by VAR,personally i do not like goals being disallowed because the strikers big toe was offside from VAR looking at offside from an imperfect angle or penalties being re taken when struck wide of the goals because the goalie went a fraction too early and VAR catches the goalie inches not feet of the line so my choice at this moment would be against using VAR.
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I would rather we just had goal line technology and no VAR, but it's too late now and no going back. The passion has been taken out of the game for scoring a goal as you don't know if it will be allowed or not. It's the same when betting and backing goals, you hold your breath in case VAR is needed. A further problem is that VAR won't stop here. Once it's been bedded in for a couple of seasons, it will be used for corners, throw-ins, fouls, yellow cards etc. It will eventually become like American football and a 3pm kick off won't finish until after 5.
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is that 5pm or 5am ?
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As far as I'm concerned, it has been disastrous. Can hardly believe so many people are still advocating it.
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Against......from a punting perspective it's just a horrible situation when you just have to hold fire after every decision.
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I can take a bad decision for the opposing team going against me far better than getting a goal or penalty award being taken away from my team.
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Against.
Fans still talk about "was it, wasn't it" 50 years after the '66 World Cup final, "Hand of God", Thierry Henry and his blatant scooped hand ball goal, etc,etc. VAR ruins the hot debates. It may get everything stone cold correct but that's not passionate football. I may change my mind if they alter a couple if rules... 1. No offside if any part of the attackers body is onside and 2. Ball to hand equals no foul. |
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soccer saturday will be in meltdown every week next season
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Against. Against. Against.
Only benefit is goalline technology. Rest is just a catastrophe. |
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Probably because of rule changes over the years I find it hard to decide about VAR. The offside rules certainly need looking at as do a number of others but I doubt everyone can be satisfied.
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The Forum has spoken...SCRAP IT
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As I predicted, it is an absolute disaster. It has completely taken over the game. Even though GLT works brilliantly, I was against it because I knew it would open Pandora's box and lead to this shambles. What began as 'clear and obvious' errors has become, as it was inevitably going to, 'making it up as we go along' and 'totally subjective interpretation'. Basically the VAR team and ref and can interpret the game as they see fit.
Scrap it all immediately. |
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Def AGAINST.
As Golden Vision says - ball to hand should be no pen and any part of body onside should be play on. I have an issue with the authorities changing the rules too much and VAR is just an extension of that. The unbridled joy at celebrating a goal will decrease the more decisions are sent to VAR. Game is going to the wall. ![]() |
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Its gonna be a nightmare in the Premiership next season I don't think i will be laying 0-0 correct scores in the Premiership
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Already written next year's Premiership off. I'm just awaiting the outcome of it; hence why I'm prepared to stick with it for a while
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The unbridled joy at celebrating a goal will decrease the more decisions are sent to VAR. Game is going to the wall.Sad
This has happened in the NFL with replay, I've been watching since 1982 and now I cannot properly celebrate a TD. And tt the end of every play I'm looking around the field for a yellow flag... |
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The unbridled joy at celebrating a goal will decrease the more decisions are sent to VAR. Game is going to the wall.Sad
This has happened in the NFL with replay, I've been watching since 1982 and now I cannot properly celebrate a TD. And tt the end of every play I'm looking around the field for a yellow flag... |
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I've been against it right from the start, seeing it in action I'm more certain than ever that it's just another nail in the coffin of the great game.
All seater stadiums, more women and kids in grounds, more corporate, players earning silly money, nice pristine pitches to play on, players coming out together almost arm in arm at the start of the match, every top team being choc full of foreigners, 20 matches a week live on TV etc etc. Most people born in the last 30 years will see most of the above as improvements to the game or the norm at least, for me it's just turned it into a sterile bore and it's well past a tipping point. I think the ultimate question to ask is this - Is football more exciting to watch with all these changes than it was before? I think anyone who's lived through pre and post will know the answer. VAR has made it even worse, the spontaneity and excitement has been strangled out the game and it's a sad state. I said in one of the early VAR threads that whinging managers with selective memories have brought us to this, remembering the decisions that go against them and quickly forgetting the ones that go for them. VAR in football will NEVER work. |
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Difference with the NFL is the commentators tell you a flag has been thrown within seconds. And depending where the flag was thrown tells you what the likely infringement might be.
Plus the NFL is such a stop/start game anyway with tv ruling the roost. VAR will be a bigger disaster than replay in NFL imo of course. |
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Difference with the NFL is the commentators tell you a flag has been thrown within seconds. And depending where the flag was thrown tells you what the likely infringement might be. Plus the NFL is such a stop/start game anyway with tv ruling the roost. VAR will be a bigger disaster than replay in NFL imo of course. Oh yeah it's worse in football. In football even less time will be spent with the ball actually in play because the time spent faffing over VAR is mostly lost, there's no way they'll ever play all the time lost at the end of both halves. And of course it's brought more controversy to football than there ever was before. |
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Against - but you may as well try and knit soup as to try and stop the onward march of taking the game way from the fans.
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Against, but thought it was great in CL Final for the first two minutes
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Had to laugh at that sj
![]() I wonder how many on here was amongst those calling out for it before it was introduced. A good percentage I would guess. |
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Good post Nonaynever.
How long before coaches are given a certain number of "VAR appeals" to use during the match. It will all add to the so called entertainment and drama. |
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I am for VAR, but that does not stop referees trying to grab the limelight with horrendous interpretations.
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that german goal there should be given offside
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hmmmm
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