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sorry to upset the status quo but i think it was a penalty tonight to manchester united
i know why many will think it wasnt, we predictably heard it from all the ex pros again but what is the point of listening to them? as the shot was taken the defender ran in to block it, ok he's so close he doesnt have time to get his arm out of the way but thats not the point, its where he positions his arm just before the shot is taken and that is clearly well away from his body, had he not been positioned between the ball and the goal his arm would have been by his side as an aside you really have to question his defending too, firstly turning his back on the ball and secondly not keeping his arms close to his body as the shot is taken, does the man standing on the end of the wall have a gap between his arm and his body as a freekick is taken? NO so how is this different? |
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it's just not natural to jump with your arms stuck next to your body. i wouldn't say his arm was in a particularly unnatural position. they're basically saying any handball in the box is a penalty now
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it's just not natural to jump with your arms stuck next to your body
VAR gave a penalty the other day when a defender put his hands up to protect his face, now thats a natural thing to do, so you saying it shouldnt be a penalty? |
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VAR is ruining the game. There are so many incidents in a match that the ref gets wrong and we just accept it as part of what happens in football. If we were to stop at every dubious decision, the game would last all night.
So are we just using VAR for penalty box incidents? The Man Utd pen was an obscenity to football. We have to change the laws now so that ANY handball anywhere on the pitch is handball, end of. At least everyone will know that if the ball hits the hand a pen will be given. No ambiguity, and takes officials opinion out of the equation. Not what i really want to see but VAR makes this the only course left. PSG really did show what a bottleless shower they are and got their just desserts. |
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gotta be more discretion than the sort of ludicrous decision given last night. wouldn't give a pen if it hits your hand which is clearly in front of your body. obviously hand way above your head or stuck straight out well away from side different matter
no one on either side or the commentators thought that was a penalty at time. almost an afterthought it was checked before the corner |
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Extract from Law 12
Handling the ball Handling the ball involves a deliberate act of a player making contact with the ball with the hand or arm. The following must be considered: • the movement of the hand towards the ball (not the ball towards the hand) • the distance between the opponent and the ball (unexpected ball) • the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an offence The word unnatural does not appearin the current laws of the game at all, very frustrating that expert pundits continue to belive that it does. |
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Five Live commentary team continue to say they went to a UEFA referee briefing where it stated "unnatural position". Don't blame the commentators if a referee briefing used these terms.
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He's jumping so there's got to be an issue as to whether he's in the penalty area anyway and that's before you get onto the debate about the handball.
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Maybe the refs need to read the IFAB Laws Of The Game 2018/19
 Incidentally, there was an IFAB meeting in Aberdeen last week and Gianni Infantino took the opportunity to attend a Cove Rangers match on the Saturday. |
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no one thought it was a pen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zDjvgTgNdA can see at least 5 manu players appealing for something, was it for a  corner |
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they're definitely making sure he's seen the touch over for the corner. would all be surrounding the ref if they genuinely thought it was a pen
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making sure the ref has seen the touch
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Linesmen also being instructed not to flag for marginal offsides as VAR will check on it. That also seems counterintuitive to the rules to me; what happens if a striker not flagged but should have been, doesn't score but gets a corner and then the team score from the corner. VAR wouldn't go back and correct that mistake; and a mistake the linesman might not have made had it not been for a change against the laws of the game.
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linesman can still flag, late, if hes spotted an offside, but wasnt quite sure
he wanted to interupt play hope it evolves like that, to avoid such instances darlo. |
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2 games in the last hours where markets have been settled and closed only for goals to be rescinded . Feyenoord and Torini games.
GET IT SORTED BETFAIR |
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Old VAR thread before it hit the Premier League.
I'd guess we'd have less cheer leaders now  |
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fckin sh1te,get rid of it quick.
Ripping the heart out of the game. |
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The Norwich one was comical
He's clearly onside from the pics, but they say in the buildup he was off, people tell them its all in the rules he can comeback onside, so they simply change it to he was offside when the ball was played Took the pish with it long ago, but now taking absolute liberties with it |