Crazy way to lose a game but it's fair to say we all know he has a mistake in him - just not one per game like our other keepers over the last few years. Value Seeker often refers to Liverpool as The Devil's Club and you can understand why after that episode.

In many ways the performance was more important than the result and at no point yesterday did it feel like we weren't competing, which you couldn't have said many times in the last 20 years at that venue.

I was disappointed that we ended the game without Bernard, Sigurdsson and the injured Gana on the pitch, which gave us little hope of holding on to the ball if it came to us.

Making substitutions just for the sake of it never sits comfortably with me and although it didn't necessarily lead directly to the goal, it may easily have changed our mindset.   

No serious gripes with the manager though - at the end of the day it's about getting the right players in and improving the ones you already had. He seems to have done both.

Who is this guy playing in Michael Keane's shirt?

Agree with that Miss Wales.

I know Keane is improving on anything in front of him/reading of game but he is still slower than the slowest whale in the Indian Ocean and a bigger accident waiting to happen than Pickford.

What is it with Evertonians and LFC having a 'pact with the devil' and all such nonsense. Grown men regularly churn out this nonsense from the blue side of the city. Such puerile nonsense an 8 year old would be embarrassed about! Also, saying you are clearly 'man for man as good as LFC.' Seeing as we are miles ahead in the league and reached CL final last year then this is one hell of a leap of faith!! It was a fairly even contest granted; but we were on the back of a tough game away in PSG.

However, you lot actually played football for once which was nice. Clearly the team is progressing very well. Gomes looks a very good acquisition in particular. Certainly plenty of reason for optimism and a Europa spot is definitely up for grabs.

Charwell... finally we agree on something.

Everton fans incessantly bleating about how and why LFC have cheated us, robbed us, etc, etc, etc.

It's a pain, it's boring, it's embarrassing and it's just an excuse to deflect from our own myriad shortcomings since the late 80's.

No one has held us back except us... pack it in, PLEASE.

That's 6 points chucked away in one week!!

How come other teams make substitutions and they impact on the game. We make them and nothing changes!!!

It's no good Mr Silva shaking his head ruefully... that team came out for the second half virtually comatose.

Next up... City

No Gana tomorrow and 3 at the back.

Agree enpassat. Walcott has been dire recently but one game anyone with any clue would play him in is
City away.

But no. We come to city trying to play pretty patterns out of defence (which we are incapable of).
No structure, no pattern, no pace, no trickery. Just a gash keeper/centre defenders making bad decision. A couple of fannies in centre mid who dont fancy it against good players. A tiny fella out wide totally out of his depth. Richarlison goes missing as per against the top sides and DCL further decreases his value for when we sell him to a DIV I team.

As for Silva's motivational and tactical skills of late - Give me strength.

Wenger made the same mistake over and over again- only to bring Walcott on when the opposition were ahead and playing DEEP. You couldn't make it up.

Well there's an elite manager free who may fancy a stab at a club just below the top level.

We need a radical cultural overhaul at the club and surely an out and out winner like him could bring it.

Why not give it a spin. All the alternatives have not worked.

Ps. No BS about it not working out recently for him. He won 2 trophies in his first year at United and his CV is probably the best on the planet.

Tomorrows a massive game for us.

This is where we see exactly how we're progressing.

With all due respect to Spurs, they're a deserving top 6 side but not up there with City or Pool. They have more than enough of dodgy games and so at home, with a settled team, decent bench and good tactical manager we should take this.

Actually, we better take this 'cos excuses are starting to run out.

COYB

At least Bernie Madoff made some legit money before he carried out one of the biggest frauds ever.

This little fella should be sent down and the key thrown away a long time ago.

Silva's a fraud methinks. Everton were a point better off at this stage last season despite being on their third manager of the season at that stage. Not having a dig, it's just an impartial observation. Anyway, good luck for the season. Hope you can nick 6th from Arsenal or Man U.

The fact that Mr Silva is concentrating on a second disallowed goal is worrying.

It seems he's trying to put the entire display down to a dodgy decision. That's the chant of a loser.

The fact that the ref, correctly, wrote off another goal doesn't explain conceding 6 fwcking goals.

I think we've missed the boat with selling Pickford to Utd but, fingers crossed, should they come calling again we should sell up in a shot.

Don't get me started on the others.

At the start of the month GV said Pickford was world class. 3 weeks later he's wishing he'd been sold.

Fickle much?

Merry Christmas Everyone.

I feel Silva has some validity in questioning the goal for 2-0. His game plan was to attack and goals do change games - he attacked and at 2-0 he could of changed his system to be less open and counter. It didn't and our keeper had a shocker. Whilst its quite right Spurs had their chances too, they hadn't taken them;  2-0 would have been a task for them and albeit it may seem silly after the event it was pivotal to Everton and Silva picking up on it I have no issue with. I don't with his tactic either - we should want our manager to press and attack teams. My only reservation is with two slow midfielders we can't play with Keane at centre-back. No Gana, it has to James or Benni.

Mafe is quite right Spurs are in their best form after being - imo - effected by the world cup far more than any other club.
I'm 51 and I've never seen a great Spurs side: good sides, cup winning teams but this one has the basis of a really good side. Because of past events  I'm more inclined to see them slide away rather than build and flourish. Be good for the Spuddies to have a real go at it, though. Toby Alderweireld has to be kept (he was excellent on Sunday) and not sold to strengthen a rival.

We have an experienced striker arriving on loan and a youngster whom Brands rates very highly in the next 10 days or so with the more serious cash to spend in the summer. Dowell's going out on loan - I'm disappointed in the choice of club to be honest and Oumar is off to pastures new.

Mafe,

I honestly believe you have answered my question. 85 isn't a premier total achieved by a great side, we got 86 points in 87, a very good team and that was with a raft on injuries. We achieved 90 points in 85 with 4 or 5 games to run - that was a great side.
As for thrashing us twice last year, of course you did, so did Arsenal, they shipped 10 past us!

Yes, Tobe, we hit 90 and didn't win another league with 5 games to run - which was my point!

Spurs may very well hit 85 points this years and be 15 points away from the title winners - I'm not having that's a great side. Its a really good team that has to improve further!

With all due respect to Spurs, they're a deserving top 6 side but not up there with City or Pool. They have more than enough of dodgy games and so at home, with a settled team, decent bench and good tactical manager we should take this.


Spurs 1 Wolves 3

And that's what I meant.

I repeat, Silva may not be the answer but way too early to be changing, I see his current points total is identical to Klippetys at the same stage, two less than Poccetino
or another way of looking at it is that is that Silva has the same record 7-6-7 after 20 games as Everton had last year

From the outside looking in, I'd say you have improved. It's just not being borne out in results yet. You're slightly hindered in the fact that the likes of Baines and Coleman are older/crocks and have gone from being among the best 5 in their position to being mediocre. Then there's the money wasted under previous managers: Bolasie, Schneiderlein, Klaasen, Pickford, Keane, Tosun, Walcott etc.

New guy may not be perfect but he's only had one window and Richarlison, Digne, Bernard and Gomes look a hell of a lot better than the kind of signings you've been making for at least 5 years before.

Give him another couple of windows and you may have the bones of a good team. You can't just keep changing manager every 5 minutes hoping to stumble on The One.