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***** ARSENAL CHIT CHAT *****
***** ARSENAL CHIT CHAT *****
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I Think we should get rid of Arteta NOW and get Conti in, before Man Utd get him,
as i think that could be the final piece of the United jigsaw. Solskjaer has a team good enough to win the league now, and if they have a run of a few games without a win. He will be gone, and Conti will be there no1 choice. We should have got rid of Wenger 5 years earlier and got Klopp in, but we were too late, again. Lets not make the same mistake again |
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I don't understand why people think Conti would want this poisoned chalice. They just spent £150 million! They are not going to get rid of Arteta now.
The best Arsenal fans can hope for is Big Sam for Christmas! |
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Anyone see the Paddy Power skit on Arsenal's transfer board? Would be funny if it wasn't true.
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yes,sums us up
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Would you take Aurier on a free if offered? Says he'd go to Arsenal if they wanted him.
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tbh Arsenal probably only have about 4 players in their squad better than Auerier
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Here is the paddy power Arsenal one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcTMgEFaVoM |
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I wouldn’t mind playing White as the defensive midfielder in front of the back 4 and have Lokonga and Partey like two Rottweilers in front of him.
Pretty defensive but at at least we have more bite. But that’s just me and I’m sure everyone on here has there own set up. Problem is Discount Pep is all over the place. Take Cedric for instance…scores 2 goals in a behind closed doors game vs Brentford but probably won’t be in the squad for Norwich…or will he? Will Tommy even make the bench? I just don’t know with him. If he names Kolasinac in the starting 11 vs Norwich then I say we sack him right there and then. |
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Touch and go on Tommy’s Work a permit for Norwich.
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Top 4 is still possible for Arsenal this season.
If Brentford have a new boy slump and Palace are as bad as everyone is making out Arsenal might sneak into the Top Four London Clubs, which, could be regarded as a huge achievement. Of course a lot would depend on Brentford being absolute pants, which, I do not think is going to happen. |
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Arteta talking about a medium to long-term 'project' now. It used to be a process, now it's a new buzzword. He has moved the goalposts again and is talking about the squad overhaul being 'unheard of' all while Cedric, Holding, Chambers, Elneny, Xhaka, Kolasinac, Laca are still at the club and he had chances to get rid of most of them but declined and offered some of them new deals. The XI isn't going to be much different to last season despite all the spending. I doubt the football is either.
The Arsenal PR media have also been this week talking about likely Auba replacements when the time comes. Very strange timing and not a good sign either. The club/manager definitely have a few plants in the media. Ornstein is one. |
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I know Arteta gave Xhaka a new contract but who out of the others had prospective buyers, that MA decided to keep?
2022 sees the end of contracts for Laca,Elneny, Chambers,Kolasinac and Eddie. Don't see anybody being interested in that lot bar maybe Laca, who could play in Turkey for example. 2023 see the contacts up for Mari,Cedric,Torreira and Ainsley. Again nobody will be rushing to buy any of these. You can see why MA says its a long term project. A very phuckin long term project. |
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There was talk over the last couple of years of bids for Laca and Elneny. I think Laca's wages were a problem for the buyers. The club apparently values Elneny at £5m and won't sell for less. They have extended Chambers deal in the last year. They could have paid Kola and Laca to get rid. It may not have been an option in previous years but I'd have thought some of the £150m spend this summer would have been used to pay some of these guys a lump to go. Cedric and Mari were initially loanees and Arteta made them permanent. Cedric signed a 4 year deal last summer and they're trying to get rid of him already. Holding signed a new contract earlier this year until 2024 with an option to renew for a year.
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Also don't get why Torreira is banished when guys like AMN and Elneny are still at the club. I liked him as a player and he was at least a useful squad player. He was often played out of position by Emery and we never really saw the best of him in an Arsenal shirt but he loved playing for us. You don't see any Spanish or Italian clubs looking to take Elneny on loan. But that's all on the manager and his personality more than anything else.
For all the money we've spent this summer, I think we'd be better off with Torreira, Saliba and Guendouzi in the squad and having not bought any of the additions this summer. They are all fairly young too. |
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That's why this 'project youth' nonsense is more horseshít from the manager. He is decimating the value of these 3 players and they are better than what we've bought this summer.
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Arteta knew Mari from Man City. Never made an appearance for the club. Seems he played 20 odd games for Flamengo Serie A, but nearly all of his other football was at lower levels.
Cedric wasn't a regular at Saints, and i presumed we brought him in as cover for Bellerin who never properly recovered from his injury. This would suggest that Ainsley or Chambers wasn't what Arteta wanted. So why were both Mari and Cedric given deals after their loan spells. Must have been MA making those decisions and not Edu? |
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Fair points regarding Torreira, not really given too many chances, but of what i did see, don't think he cut the mustard.
Matteo Guendouzi i have omitted from my posts as i think he could have been a very good player. But he was banished for a foolish mistake he made as a very young man. Now MG may prove to be a troublesome character, but a decent manager would have taken him to one side and educated him in the ways of top football. You have to say there were times when Guendouzi was our only player on the pitch busting a gut for the team. |
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Watched the game just now. Unimpressive win and wasted a lot of chances near the end and could have cost us. Not much to be encouraged about given it was Norwich at home.
But my God that Ben White is an absolute liability at the back. Letting balls bounce in the box, giving away needless free kicks due to poor positioning etc. He is not a defender and looks like he's as bad as Mustafi with a similar mentality of shirking responsibility. Basic schoolboy errors throughout from him. |
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Please tell me we’ve sent a private plane to pick up Conti
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Wait till Boxing Day!
You know who will be available! |
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I watched the whole game too and couldn't disagree more with Lurka about his analysis/slating of Ben White. I thought he was excellent and composed throughout the game. Finally we have a player who can really play out from the back and some of his passing was simply sublime.
Considering he is still settling in, I thought he showed tremendous potential....and remember, he is only 23....that's still very young for a Premier centre back. |
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I didn't mention his passing. Only his defending. He made some very basic errors again and will be found out repeatedly against better sides. His passing was good and is a lot better than Mustafi but defensively I saw a lot of similarities between them today. If you are going to play with 2 CHs then they both need to be able to defend.
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No posts for 10 days.
Did we win a game? |
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I guess it’s welcome back square head Kolasinac tonight…looks a nice game for this Patino kid.
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He’s got….if Partey gets injured tonight and misses NLD
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that should read…he’s got a death wish
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Don’t have a problem with him playing Partey last night, even at risk of an injury. Can’t wrap him up in cotton wool and then expect him to turn up and perform in the “bigger” games. It’s frustrating that his injury record since signing is so poor yet he barely missed a game at Madrid. He just doesn’t look match fit and needs game time. The last couple of injury scares have been cramp.
Going into the Derby, I can’t remember a time when both sets of supporters were quite so downcast, both half expecting to lose. When he was at Wolves, Nuno had a good record against Arsenal, so am expecting a tough game. Despite two wins, we’ve only beaten the two teams at the bottom of the table. |
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Yeah apparently Partey needed game time. If he'd been injured tho it would have ramped up pressure on Arteta before the derby. He only played an hour.
Wins against those 3 sides don't really tell us much. Not expecting a very entertaining game in the derby but they are well beatable. So are we, I suppose. |
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Just got back. A good day all round.
Wish we started every game like that. And would be helpful if the home support actually got behind the team like today. Seems like our totally hopeless manager has bought himself a couple of weeks. Hope Spuds get a a few wins now. We could do with Nuno being there for at least a couple of years. |
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Great win and great attitude from the players. Shades of the Chelsea game last season tho. They were as bad as Spurs so I won't be getting carried away that we've turned any corner. Need to see a performance like that against a top side playing well. Spurs were easier to beat than Norwich and Burnley. Tomiyasu looks like a good signing and a big improvement on the right.
Really don't like the way we sit back on a lead and invite the opposition onto us with little threat going forward. It just encourages them and they didn't even turn up today. The last 10 mins of the Chelsea game last season was the same. Can understand it at 3-0 but this manager tends to do it with a single goal lead too. Not as if we have a rock solid defence to rely on. |
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Well done Mikel Arteta. You have showed your mettle by coming through what must have been a terribly stressful and deeply painful period of vile abuse - mostly verbal but much of it physical intimidation of you and your family - from so-called fans of the club you manage. Your club is not out of the woods yet but you have good reason now to be proud of yourself and to never trust an Arsenal fan again.
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Early days but does anyone really take the knee-jerk r soles that inhabit the likes of AFTV seriously?
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Great win and did we need it. Agree with Lurka about the sitting back tactic. Hopefully onwards and upwards, but we've been here before many times.
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Agree blackrock.
First half was best we’ve played for ages. Great to see some pace up front. Front four looks potent. We have a run of ‘winnable’ fixtures, which has always proved a problem in the recent past. Don’t think we can afford too many injuries as squad lacks depth. Still, a step in the right direction at least. Pleased for Arteta. But that’s football. Lose and you’re clueless. Win and you’re a man with a plan. |
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News is getting better by the day
Xhaka might be ruled out for three months by knee injury! Nothing against Xhaka personally I am sure he is a good lad but just too slow for me. I would like to see the new kid get a chance to play with Partey whom I hope will stay fit! |
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Salina and Guendouzi both playing fir Marseille tonight and it’s live in BT Sport 2. Interesting to see how both play
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Saliba
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