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10 Dec 17
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Can we please stop this? I am not in the mood. I only want to talk to people with some understanding of football
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he was probably saying that to courtinho and firmino whilst sat on the bench next to him for 80 mins,they new he was talking shoite as well
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It would be a good idea for him to talk to someone with some understanding of football
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true story this
we had a sunday morning manager who in a cup semi,we had a centre forward who,d scored about 50 goals that season had caused havoc all afternoon hit the woodwork 5 times ,made the keeper make worldie after worldie,with 20 left he took him off and the lad was screaming at him with rage the manager said I want you to sit next to me and watch the shoite you have to play with,  ,reminds of klopp |
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Davison: Have you had a chance to see it back?
Klopp: Yes. He makes a step in this direction but even then it is nothing. And then we have the penalty, and one team can celebrate, and we can't. Davison: What have you said to the referee? Klopp: That I don't understand that he's doing that. That's all I said. I didn't use one swearing word. I cannot, cannot believe that in a game like this, where only one team is trying over 95 minutes to do everything to win it, and the other team… was not even in our box, I'm not sure if they even had a shot on target, except from the penalty. And you open the door for them like this, it's in my understanding not OK. Davison: For you, 100 per cent not a penalty, or does Dejan Lovren… Klopp: No, no, no! Davison: I'm not blaming him, but does he not need to make the challenge though? Klopp: He doesn't make a challenge! Calvert-Lewin takes a step… Davison: And his hand is on his back… Klopp: The hand is like this [gestures to Davison] on his back, you saw it, if you think it's a penalty, then do it, say it, say it's a penalty in your opinion. Is it a penalty in your opinion? Davison: OK. My opinion doesn't matter, I would say soft… Klopp: Obviously my opinion doesn't matter as well. Davison: Of course your opinion matters. Klopp: Does it change anything? Davison: No, we can't change anything in an interview, can we? Klopp: Do you think it is a penalty or not? Davison: I think it's soft, but I think it is a penalty. Klopp: Ha ha ha! Well, then we can stop the interview, because I only want to talk to people who have a little bit of an understanding of football because I'm sorry, really, I can't believe… Davison: I know you're angry, but there are people who played a lot of football matches in our studio, who also think it's a penalty. Klopp: Oh [looks at camera]. Then sorry. I'm wrong. You're all right. Davison: I didn't say that. Klopp: Yes that's what you said. Davison: I didn't say you were wrong. Klopp: When all the other people are right, I must be wrong, right? Davison: No. Just because… isn't it a game of opinions? Klopp: Can we please stop this here. Do you have three, five minutes already? Obviously I am not in the mood to answer your question, and you don't have the questions do you? Davison: I have one more, I don't think you're going to like it. Six changes today, you also took Salah off at 1-0 up. Do you think those changes had any impact on the result? Klopp: That's my job, that's my job, I make decisions before I know they are right, and afterwards it is your job to say I'm not right. No problem with that. Yes I was sure this was the right decision, we brought Roberto Firmino on for Mo Salah, so, we could have scored before, we could have scored afterwards. We could have scored all the time. We lived more or less in their box. But obviously we didn't do it, I have to take that, I have no problem with that. I only think, if you invest that much in a game like this today in a game like this, they didn't have counter-attacks! It's quite difficult. If you have one situation, and now we drew, there are bigger catastrophes on this planet than getting a point after a game like this, but it feels not too good. Sorry about all the rest I said before. |
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REPEAT ON SKY FOOTY SHORTLY
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Interviewer comes around as a bit of a b*llend, in my opinion. Klopp strikes me as a decent, likable guy. He probably gets frustrated at the fact he's one of only four managers in the EPL that actually try to play football the right way
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I don't blame Klopp for being annoyed with this guy who thinks putting a hand on a players back is a foul.
A push is a foul , a shirt pull is a foul , touching the player's back is just incidental contact . |
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he should have signed a decent central defender in the summer, thats his problem.
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Agreed MM.....bang on.
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look at hendo in the background,look across to the reff he no,s its a pen
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It was a ****g pen, Lovren is a tit.
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Jc how can you play football the right way with oxlade shambles in your team
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I understand Klopp's frustration, but he has made a fool of himself.
He said that it clearly wasn't a penalty, but if it had happened at the other end you can be certain that he would be saying that it was a nailed-on foul. |
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Didn't think it was a penalty tbh, but seems I'm in minority judging from media (sounds like he got roasted in press conference too). But this was total heads gone from Klopp.
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managers usually use the phrase when not given pens ,that if it was outside the box it would be fou, if that was utside the box it would be a foul for a push 100%, klopp only unlucky in the fact the reff give in the box what he,d have given outside. did klopp want the everton player booked for simulation
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Wish I had seen the interview...sounds like a belter...wonder if aec is really serious about Klopp being nasty...surely not, the guy has passion, big difference between that and being nasty. Add in a bit of frustration, and you have the pen.
Watching the manchester derby, when a player is literally thrown to the ground and a pen is not given...and then a player stops, bounces off the the centre half, and its a pen....people see what they want to see....unreal...tobes is spot on....so what if Lovern has his hand up, means nothing. If you really want to analyse, you say, yeh, Lovern, been sold one, didn't need to be touch tight...clumsy...and Kalvert lewis knows where he is and knows exactly what he is going to do. IMO, the ref has to look at that in context before giving the pen, does he think the forward is trying to buy a pen...after all..he is running away from the box. My old man was a ref, and him and I argue about this, he says refs don't think that way, they give what they see. I argue that the game has moved on, and the ref has to look at the context and question the contact..the game has moved on, players are learning new ways, being more devious, doing anything to get a decision...look at herrara today, clearly left a leg and tried to buy a pen, for me, thats what Kalvert did too...he got it. |
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Lovren is a prize mug and that was well known last season but he didn't replace him. The decision could have gone either way and I wouldn't blame the ref. If it has been at the other end Klopp would have said it was a push and a pen. I don't know how much force Lovren used but it looked from one angle like enough to be a foul. Calvert-Lewin was going nowhere and Lovren was actually in a decent position to just hold him up and prevent him shooting. Ludicrous to do what he did.
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Lovern, Mingolet and Moreno are all ticking time bombs in the Liverpool defence, all accidents waiting to happen and accidents that have happened numerous times already, yet Klopp is to stubborn to address this situation.
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*too stubborn
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allyp 10 Dec 17 23:28
Wish I had seen the interview.. you can see the clip of him ranting like a lunatic on youtube |
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told you last night ,look at Henderson who,s behind looks straight across to the reff because he see,s lovrens put his hands up, hendo no,s its going to be given
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absolutely staggering that people have watched endless replays and still dont see that C-L simply jumps into Lovren..no fan of his but Lovren is doing no different to what 100% of all defenders in that position would be doing...of course you put youre hands up when someone collides with you...no idea what some people are watching these days
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fwiw thought the interviewer handled the interview very well..fair play
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Agree with that Duncan. DCL clearly steps across him and then slows up which causes the contact. Kind of trick that Suarez used to do all the time in fairness.
It does happen and Lovren should have been aware that he might do that and how it could look to a ref though. |
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you should phone lovren and klopp arrange a dinner date,if you advertise you might find a 4th person in the country who doesn't think its a pen
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cause he steps across him its his job to get between lovren and the ball
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Evertons penalty was more of a penalty than Firminos dive against swansea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g83YVVUSg2o&t=6m20s |
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As I've said I think it's contentious and I can see why it's given but it's one that's been engineered by the attacker. Just the same as when they leave their back leg dangling or touch a ball round a keeper towards the corner flag then collapse down on to the flailing arms. Technically a pen but caused by the attacker engineering it rather than the defender clattering in.
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Nasty German Cheerleader
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If it was the other way around Allardyce would be seething and Klopp would be saying it was a clear penalty. It is football, get on with it.
The German playboy is hiding behind this to mask his pathetic team selection. If he had selected his full side Liverpool would have won comfortably. Bring back Benitez. |
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surprised no l,pool fans have said salah,s was more of a push,foul on the everton defender for his goal,
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PP,you left Saint Kenny and Stevie G out!
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https://twitter.com/tancredipalmeri/
status/940162948202418176 gif of the ref's view. Looked like a push and I don't think DCL went down without feeling some force, the angle from behind the goal makes it look like he just jumped into him and fell over but it's the left hand and you can't see that from behind the goal |
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Palmeri is spot on
Tancredi PalmeriVerified account @tancredipalmeri 5h5 hours ago More In fairness to the ref, this is his point of view, and you can actually fall to believe it was a penalty. So ref’s mistake is excusable. What is not excusable is a pundit thinking it is a penalty even after watching both angles |
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can the reff be excused for not seeing salah push,then throw the everton defender to the floor before scoring
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I don't see why people/pundits are reading into angles where you can't see Lovren's left hand, esp when that is NOT the angle the ref saw. The left hand movement is key
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when i saw it live i shouted 'pen' at my tv straight away
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ref gave what he saw....seems fair enough !
loads of pundits said deffo pelanty i think it was not a pelanty as everton player caused it, but its the same as shielding ball out for goal kick, and they never get penalised for that, so i would expect ref to give pelanty anyway. video replay and rooney is still waiting to take pelanty and folk have gone home to argue about it and wrap christmas presents who would be a ref ? |
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I can see why the ref gave it and accept they have a difficult job. From where he was stood, and in the split second he has to make a decision, its completely understandable.
What I cant accept, is people watching the below clip and still saying it was a penalty. https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/940156358816686080 |