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Celtic's Unbeaten Run last season means nothing
Celtic's Unbeaten Run last season means nothing
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Voting no is a big difference from kicking out. You can not be kicked out of anywhere if you were not in first as was the case with The Rangers International Football Club (TRIFC) Formerly SEVCO 5088 a new club launched by Charles Green in place of the late Glasgow Rangers and tried to bulldoze his way straight into the SPL Premier Division but like all newly formed football clubs had to enter in the lowest tier in the Scottish league.
I do hope that you find this information useful as you seem to be badly misinformed as to what actually happened to the old Rangers and the emergence of (TRIFC). As for Glasgow Celtic playing Rosenborg tomorrow night in the third qualifying round of the Champions League they will represent their league with pride unlike your old rangers the biggest cheats in British sporting history lying dead in the gutter and you totally seething. Absolutely brilliant.  |
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Went bust over spending money they didn't have even though they ran an illegal tax scheme to fund additional spending and they have the temerity to suggest they were kicked out.
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Not worried about Rosenborg, Only concern is who we draw in the final qualifier. Need a bit of luck there.
Celtic were knocked out to Maribor not so long ago, Rosenborg is no gimme. |
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The not so shrewd Shrewd talking nonsense.
Firstly the money spent was investment from SDM and secondly EBTs are perfectly legal but the taxman felt Rangers one broke their rules. In fact there is still divided opinion hence the different outcomes of the various tax cases. But anyways Rangers remain the most successful club side in the world which I know sticks in the haters throats. WATP |
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Firstly the money spent was investment from SDM and secondly EBTs are perfectly legal but the taxman felt Rangers one broke their rules.
In fact there is still divided opinion hence the different outcomes of the various tax cases. Investment from SDM? Why the need to sell to Craig Whyte then if it was his money he was investing? It wasn't it was Lloyds and it was the only way you could pay Lloyds back. Yes, EBT's are legal, the illegal scheme your club used wasn't, that's why they owed tens of millions to the taxman but went bust to wipe the slate clean. |
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Lloyds supplied an overdraft just like other banks do.
I think the figure we owed them was £18m when SDM invested at least 4 times that amount. (Remember he underwrote the shares issue to the tune of £50m+) Again you use the term illegal despite no criminal case. How do you explain that? |
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So why did your club go bust and why did you allow it to then? I've heard before that it was Lloyds fault (can't be if it was all SDM's own money), I've heard it was nothing to do with SDM (must be if he sold it to Whyte when their was no debt), I've heard it's all Craig Whyte's fault and he was a criminal (can't be if you were balls deep in debt already to the taxman and he has been found not guilty at court) and I've heard it was HMRC's fault (can't be if they were chasing money you owed to them from an illegal tax scheme).
The word illegal does not solely mean something is a criminal act. https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/illegal Contrary to or forbidden by law, especially criminal law. Therefore an act which is contrary to the laws of tax and revenue is illegal. |
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Shrewd I aint going to respond to that post other than in general.
Here are the facts. Rangers didn't act illegally in fact at all times they acted within the law as accepted by the tax and football authorities. Rangers didn't cheat anyone as accepted by UEFA, SPFL and the SFA. The last 2 sought legal advice and this was confirmed. Similarly the LNS report came to that conclusion. Rangers would still have bought these players albeit they would have cost more. So in summary everybody, well everybody that counts, have cleared Rangers. Now I understand that that sticks in some peeps throats but they'll just have to live with that. |
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Where's Craig Whyte now ?
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Doing missionary work in Monaco last I heard.
Pops up from time to time because of various court cases. I personally think he was a mere patsy in all this, the thin end of the wedge as it were. |
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I don't think I'd employ him as my financial adviser though.
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yeah and you are still a LIAR.
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I'm not surprised you aren't going to answer because you have got no one left to blame unfortunately apart from the other football clubs for not bending over backwards and letting the reincarnation of a bust club back in to the top league.
Rangers didn't act illegally in fact at all times they acted within the law as accepted by the tax and football authorities. The Supreme Court found you acted illegally by employing an illegal tax scheme. You avoided paying tax through a tax scheme you used. HMRC said you owe us X amount of tax because the scheme was illegal, you got numerous penalties from HMRC for failing to pay. You were taken to court (admittedly you were bust by then due to other debts) and found to have carried out an illegal (i.e contrary to law) tax scheme by the Supreme Court. Your other sentences refer to cheating. That's a different matter and one I never mentioned. I posted initially about you and others having the temerity to whine about getting "thrown out" the league when you went bankrupt owing tens of millions of pounds. It seems you now either accept that or are trying to conflate the issue by talking about cheating because it's something you feel you have to deny at any given opportunity. If I was a Rangers fan I would to. |
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ooops sorry sammy I think we know who the liar is on this thread.
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Shrewd you can go round in circles all you like and bring in things at random but the fact is Rangers have been cleared of any illegal activity and of cheating.
The proof of this can be found through the statements and reports from the Law Lords, the LNS investigation, the Tax Tribunals, UEFA, the SPFL and the SFA. Time to move on as I don't think there is anywhere else to go other than maybe drafting a letter in Cantonese and publishing it in some obscure Mexican newspaper. |
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Aka I'm not going round in any circles this is what I said
Went bust over spending money they didn't have even though they ran an illegal tax scheme to fund additional spending and they have the temerity to suggest they were kicked out. Cry If you want to point out how your club didn't go bust owing millions of pounds which they couldn't pay or that they didn't run an illegal tax scheme (and I'm referring to the actual definition of illegal not your made up one) which they owed further millions of pounds on then please do. That's how you lost your licence and fans like you and the great blue pound couldn't save you. Don't blame other teams because your team **** it up and the fans of the most "successful team in the world" were either AWOL when it mattered or were too busy writing a book on who to boycott and organising protests instead of reaching in to their pockets to save their club. |
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You're obviously hurting Shrewd.
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I'm not even surprised anymore that you posted that. When questions get asked either change the subject and eventually when it gets too much say they are hurting. If that doesn't work imply that they are a bigot or a bit Celtic fan. Or even better post something about Celtic and pretend everybody else doesn't see whataboutery for what it is.
I'm not hurting. My club didn't die. I don't have to question myself why I didn't do anything in their death throes. I don't have to look in to the eyes of younger fans and explains to them why my club died on my watch. I don't have to come out with nonsense attempts at refutation then say "they must be hurting" with a fist pump to cover up why I can't provide any answers. You do though. |
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Didn't expect that. |
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As for Glasgow Celtic playing Rosenborg tomorrow night in the third qualifying round of the Champions League they will represent their league with pride..
Yep, playing Champions league football at the start of the summer school holidays... Im sure they didn't consider that when they voted 'no', 'kick', 'bootout' or whatever you want to call it to end up playing the likes of total network solutions If they could turn back time...I would suspect they would come to a different conclusion. |
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4th best team in luxembourg...too good for your buncha plums.
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Im sure they didn't consider that when they voted 'no', 'kick', 'bootout' or whatever you want to call it to end up playing the likes of total network solutions Laugh
Because Rangers really boosted the co efficients by gaining the minimum of 0.25 co-efficient points for getting pumped out in the first round this year? |
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Yes playing champions league qualifiers in the middle of summer they may be the price of SDMS reckless spending (and cheating of every football club in Scotland) going bust with debts of 130 140 million and subsequent liquidation of the old rangers football club is the reason that Celtic are playing Champions league in the middle of summer.
Mr Murrays utter selfishness in pursuit of glory. Nearly totally destroyed Scottish football. And that my friend is the main reason. |
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How did yer predictions work out thepiman?
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What predictions If you are referring to todays statement by the SPFL It was as anticipated.
Anyone that thinks that this is the end of the EBT scandal are very naïve or have an IQ less than 100 or zipped up the back or as in anyone that supports any football clubs that played at ibrox all of the aforementioned. Do enjoy your day you have my sympathy. |
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How much has RES12 cost you so far?
What is it they say about a fool and his money? Fans talking about a boycott. Suits us, we can fill Ibrox every week without visiting supporters. Anyways good luck in yer quest but even UEFA are refusing to talk to you now and merely assign yer letters to the crank box. |
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Nothing to do with RES 12 pal. At least they were proven right as in the recent court case it was revealed that the small tax bill was due and crystallized by Jan 2011. And what good will it do you filling ibrox every other week watching pish while your new club goes down the tubes. |
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At least they were proven right as in the recent court case it was revealed that the small tax bill was due and crystallized by Jan 2011.
Was immaterial as it only became an issue long after that. UEFA spelt that out clearly to the RES12 mob. BTW yer team is playing in a CL qualifier tonight and all you want to talk about is Rangers. That's true obsession. |
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Is this you?
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Not worried about Rosenborg, Only concern is who we draw in the final qualifier. Need a bit of luck there.
You must be worried now Platini 0-0 and an away trip to Roseborg after failing to score at home at the cauldron |
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More disappointed than worried, SH. I actually backed 2-1 Celtic correct score, so expected a tight game. A draw is always a bad result at home but a clean sheet still gives us a great chance.
Didn't watch the game but listened on the radio and it sounds like they were lucky to get away with a 0-0 And that is why I'm still not very worried - a decent side would have scored with those chances Rosenborg had. But they didn't. Because they are a muggy side. I don't know what BR has up his sleeve for the away leg, but it surely won't be Tom Rogic playing lone striker  |
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They banned their own fans in fear of getting further sanctions from uefa...
SAD TIMES  |