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n88uk When: 06 Oct 16 17:27

I don't get the sentiment here. The bookies want people to click cash out once all 6 legs of their acca are winning. So the idea they would go out and look individually at acca's to stop this seems very unlikely. It likely was just a balls up.

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n88uk When: 06 Oct 16 17:28

*screw up.

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the whizz kids When: 06 Oct 16 18:02

Oct 6, 2016 -- 2:49PM, badjoe wrote:

Here is a little tip, if your going to do accas, make sure 1 leg is later than all the others.

And the point of that is????

So many people do 6+ team accas at the weekend with 1 team running on the Sunday only to get them all up on a Sat and then decide to cash out Sun morning.

Why put the last one in in the first place.

Accas are just mug bets full stop betting to million % over rounds.

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kellydamo When: 06 Oct 16 18:19

Oct 6, 2016 -- 4:14PM, spyker wrote:

I stopped doing accas for the same reason as this guy experienced. It's a total disgrace what they ALL do. They either suspend for ages so you cant cash out when you want to, or they offer you such a p!ss take offer that there is no point in cashing out.Do people put bets on with cash out in mind, really? I had a yankee up a few weeks back and won just over 6k, cash out offer going into last (5/2ish fav) was 3k (1.6k won with 3 winners). Not a bad offer but it never really entered my head to accept it, mainly cos if you don't accept it and it loses well big deal but if you take it and it wins then it's a whole lot worse! I could have laid it off on here but I thought it would win and don't see the point in laying off for the sake of it. Mind you, I am a gambler.........

I agree but I would have taken the cash out or traded off i this instance because the one game that I was worried about they were leading 1-0 but were down to 10 men since the 48th minute and were getting hammered according to the live stats, I would have taken based on that gae alone, I werent worried about the other 5 games. It was though one of the other 5 games that turned me over and the 1-0 team held on. In these sort of instances then I would be inclined to trade out or cash out.

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hitmanhearn When: 06 Oct 16 18:25

I don't know why but this reminds me of when I was heads up in a cash game with quad nines and all in only to lose an £1800 pot to quad Kings after a King on both the turn and the river. For some ridiculous reason I thought it would help if I rang them to complain... The guy's answer ?... That's poker

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hitmanhearn When: 06 Oct 16 18:25

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hitmanhearn When: 06 Oct 16 18:25

: )

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the whizz kids When: 06 Oct 16 18:40

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the whizz kids When: 06 Oct 16 18:44

That happens every hand on Stars

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the whizz kids When: 06 Oct 16 18:47

I give up playing on stars due to seeing regular turns and rivers like the one above. SICK

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akabula When: 06 Oct 16 19:05

Ks only approx. a 9/2 shot pre flop but 100/1 once that Ace hits.
As the guy said that's poker.

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JC1326 When: 06 Oct 16 19:05

Oct 6, 2016 -- 1:56PM, mega88 wrote:

We can all agree lesson learnt here.

The lesson being you seem to think talking like Danny Dyer makes you look cool

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JC1326 When: 06 Oct 16 19:10

Oct 6, 2016 -- 6:02PM, the whizz kids wrote:

Oct 6, 2016 -- 2:49PM, badjoe wrote:Here is a little tip, if your going to do accas, make sure 1 leg is later than all the others.And the point of that is????So many people do 6+ team accas at the weekend with 1 team running on the Sunday only to get them all up on a Sat and then decide to cash out Sun morning.Why put the last one in in the first place.Accas are just mug bets full stop betting to million % over rounds.

In the past I would have agreed with that last line, but people on here seem to win thousands on acca's non-stop. Someone on this thread claims he won 6k the other week!

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charwell. When: 06 Oct 16 19:13

Amazing how you would have cashed out at exactly the optimum moment. Yet you sat there for 30 minutes and did nowt.

You could have contacted them, you could have laid off on BF.

But no. You sat there in your slightly soiled spiderman undies; salivating and licking your chops at the thought of a trip to meet the Balinese Goddess of Beauty with these ill gotten gains.

Then, before you could crack open a vintage Pot Noodle, circa 2014, your bet went down like Kerry Katona on a giant pork schnitzel .

So you huffed and puffed.

Stood there on that hill in the lightning wearing a suit of armour screaming 'All bookies are b@stards.'

Agog at the 2 fingered salute issued by the bookie who more or less told you it was his ball to take home; you snivelling little air bag..... 'But if you want to complain further the number you need Mr Fu Ming is 0121 Do 1.

And so the sun sets on another fruitless days gambling.

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s.kenbo When: 06 Oct 16 19:17

Wouldn't the odds have been 26x52 Koddy? That is one hell of a badbeat.

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akabula When: 06 Oct 16 19:22

I missed a 0 KoD. Was 0.09 on my odds checker.

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kellydamo When: 06 Oct 16 19:26

Oct 6, 2016 -- 7:13PM, charwell. wrote:

Amazing how you would have cashed out at exactly the optimum moment. Yet you sat there for 30 minutes and did nowt. You could have contacted them, you could have laid off on BF.But no. You sat there in your slightly soiled spiderman undies; salivating and licking your chops at the thought of a trip to meet the Balinese Goddess of Beauty with these ill gotten gains.Then, before you could crack open a vintage Pot Noodle, circa 2014, your bet went down like Kerry Katona on a giant pork schnitzel .So you huffed and puffed.Stood there on that hill in the lightning wearing a suit of armour screaming 'All bookies are b@stards.'Agog at the 2 fingered salute issued by the bookie who more or less told you it was his ball to take home; you snivelling little air bag..... 'But if you want to complain further the number you need Mr Fu Ming is 0121 Do 1.And so the sun sets on another fruitless days gambling.

I tried for 30 minutes to trade out and I also checked other feeds to make sure the game was in play as well. Oh by the way thank **** i dont take your betting advice, all 6 would be loses from the start according to the latest stats

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Blackrock When: 06 Oct 16 19:37

I know Charwell has been accused of being Derek McGovern, but i had my doubts.

The latest post by Charwell is well beyond the capability of your average Scouser, and with DM's journalistic training, allied to the fact that i met the said man many moons ago, i think there is a big chance that Charwell is in fact Derek.

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pushkin99 When: 06 Oct 16 19:51

Oct 6, 2016 -- 7:37PM, Blackrock wrote:

I know Charwell has been accused of being Derek McGovern, but i had my doubts.The latest post by Charwell is well beyond the capability of your average Scouser, and with DM's journalistic training, allied to the fact that i met the said man many moons ago, i think there is a big chance that Charwell is in fact Derek.

Though he has been a little harsh, Charwell has in reality summed this up pretty accurately.

The OP has my sympathies - we have all been there - but does he really expect the bookies to take him seriously and pay him out? I am sure the OP is genuine, but it would just open the floodgates to many others who would take the opportunity of having their cake and eating it when 'their bet went against them and they could not cash out due to a suspension, but of course they were intending to cash out'. Only solution is, don't bet with the books where their software is not up to the job.

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s.kenbo When: 06 Oct 16 19:55

I'm with you, Koddy. I thought they still worked out the odds based around 52 each time.

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mesmerised When: 06 Oct 16 19:58

Ignore Charwell, he's not happy unless someone else is miserable, which is why he wont let his wife divorce him.

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kellydamo When: 06 Oct 16 20:02

Oct 6, 2016 -- 7:51PM, pushkin99 wrote:

Oct 6, 2016 -- 7:37PM, Blackrock wrote:I know Charwell has been accused of being Derek McGovern, but i had my doubts.The latest post by Charwell is well beyond the capability of your average Scouser, and with DM's journalistic training, allied to the fact that i met the said man many moons ago, i think there is a big chance that Charwell is in fact Derek.Though he has been a little harsh, Charwell has in reality summed this up pretty accurately. The OP has my sympathies - we have all been there - but does he really expect the bookies to take him seriously and pay him out? I am sure the OP is genuine, but it would just open the floodgates to many others who would take the opportunity of having their cake and eating it when 'their bet went against them and they could not cash out due to a suspension, but of course they were intending to cash out'. Only solution is, don't bet with the books where their software is not up to the job.

I am not expecting to be paid out nor have I made a complaint, I am merely highlighting the fact that it has been said that traders can withdraw the cashout availability which was clearly done here on results that could be a high liability

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hitmanhearn When: 06 Oct 16 20:04

I literally couldn't sleep for weeks

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hitmanhearn When: 06 Oct 16 20:08

I told him I'd been playing 25 years ( I was lying ) and never seen anything like it .

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GEESUSS When: 06 Oct 16 20:30

As we speak WH are fooking up a cash out

Treble(s) To Win
Hide Details

Yes @ 6/5Both Teams To Score
0-0
39:45

Italy v Spain

Yes @ 11/10Both Teams To Score Won

Austria v Wales

Over @ 13/20 (1.5) Croatia Under/Over 1.5 Goals Handicap

Kosovo v Croatia

Stake: £20.00Potential Returns: £152.46
£20.00

10%
50%
100%

Cash In

Cash In Value : £27.47

The Croatia bet has won, but they have it down as a handicap and pending ?

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GEESUSS When: 06 Oct 16 21:51

fk your cash out WH, get it right up ya !

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spyker When: 07 Oct 16 09:14

Someone on this thread claims he won 6k the other week!

Chain Of Daisies @ 10/1
Berkshire @ 8/1
Officer Drivel @ 4/1
Fairway To Heaven @ 9/4
Yankee, 11 bets * £2.00 27/08/2016 22.00 6,061.50

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wisewords When: 07 Oct 16 09:32

horses?

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Johnny_Mustang When: 07 Oct 16 09:35

Nice work Spyker.

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spyker When: 07 Oct 16 09:41

Yeah, not a football acca man myself. The cash outs I'm offered are half decent (365) basically with horses they seem to be roughly twice what you've already won and half what you might. I considered half cashing out and then putting that on the last anyway but let it ride.

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spyker When: 07 Oct 16 09:43

Cheers Jm - I've enjoyed spending the money on a new latex mattress and some P7 headphones amongst other things. Carried on winning the last month as well so still gambling with free money atm!

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Senyatta When: 07 Oct 16 14:36

if the match was basically over(3-0?) then usually there are no match odds(Win-Draw-Win) available in running. Just the other markets. Maybe this is the reason why cashout disappeared? And by the time the other team started scoring william hill usually have everything suspended after about 85 minutes.

cashout offers terrible value anyways. if i ever try to lay off it will be on here or in single bets. nearly cost myself a couple hundred 2 years back by almost cashing out a 10 fold. i would have lost out on a very good bonus. the bookies clean up on cashout at least just use your balance to offset with singles instead of this cashout.

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