dustybin
If it's any consolation I can actually appreciate why people might not see it the way I do, but just consider this. What we are seeing before us is a show trial outside of court by a public opinion which is lead by a party who supplies contrived and selective evidence that they have a vested interest in. That to me isn't what our system should be trumpeting as some vestibule of virtue.

If I ever find myself in court dustybin I pray to God you'll be on the jury - looks like you'd let anyone off.

Hard to feel sympathy for Allardyce, but I think this kind of operation is pretty scummy in general - one only has to look at how the Fake Sheikh carried on and where that has ended up. And it still sticks in one's craw to be given morality lessons by the Barclay Brothers.

That said, once again the blame lies squarely at the door of the FA - it's extraordinary that they have appointed Allardyce in the first place given his previous, especially when one must assume it is his impropriety which has cost Redknapp a job on which he arguably has a far greater claim than BFS.

It would have put their football writers' noses right out of joint when the FA appointed a working-class Neanderthal spiv, that's why they've gone after him.

It's a massive bonus for everybody.

If we wangle wenger out of it then I'll be a supporter of the press freedoms
Wenger would be on a level England have never had before.

dustybin is under the illusion that a manager like Wenger could turn moderate players into World class players!!!!!
We don't have Ozil,Sanchez,Cech etc.,and have very average CBs.Dream on,besides which a country like ours must have English manager(s).

Maybe its time the Fans picked the National team instead of the agents.

Managers are way overrated anyway ,they can make a mess of it but cant make a silk purse out of a sows ear ,its all about having an excellent  backroom team with great communication skills , knitting everyone together ,having top tactical people that understand the teams limitations and set there stall out accordingly .
A good manager can make small changes or react to someone not doing there job don the day but true international players know their job and as long as they are not messed about they go out and do the it ,they all know each other and know what they are about and just get on with it .Man management is key ,a good backroom staff working on communication but more importantly people that understand people.
And lets face it some footballers are just a couple of notches up from spoilt brats ,so  need kindergarten type handling or they throw pop star tantrums  which can affect moral when away from home .
You can have one or two whos talents can carry them past there mental weakness but if you have too many your fcked .

unbiased
Wenger is better a manager than we have had to date, which compared to the other options makes his appointment the most desirable outcome of all.
He could use walcott and sterling which isnt a bad start

lauradoom 29 Sep 16 10:52 Joined: 01 May 12 | Topic/replies: 266 | Blogger: lauradoom's blog
Yay!, lets screw over the England Manager and disrupt the team in the midst of a W/C quali. just to sell some newspapers.

Wor Lass could manage England against Malta and the rest of the sh1te in the group and would do it for a million

Yep it doesnt end for him there.

67 days work, seven figure pay off

Should the Queen be sacked too? She gets over 500k in EU farm subsidies..

The UK's top beneficiaries include estates owned partly or wholly by the Queen (£557,706.52); Lord Iveagh (£915,709.97); the Duke of Westminster (£427,433.96), the Duke of Northumberland (£475,030.70 ) the Mormons (£785,058.94) - and many wealthy business people.

Asked if the Queen thought it appropriate to receive taxpayers' subsidy based on the size of her land holding, a spokesman for the Palace said: "Subsidies are open to all farmers, and are received on the Queen's private estate. We would not comment beyond the detail that is already in the public domain."


Perfectly legal but morally wrong?

The self righteousness of the media is sickening. What's worse, Allardyce perhaps getting a deal for 400k or getting the sack and being given 1m by the FA?

Should Alex Ferguson lose his knighthood, he used to send United Jersey's to players he wanted to sign, like Mexes? Mourinho was caught having meetings with Ashley Cole when still an Arsenal player. T@pping Up is the correct term. Underhandedness goes on all the time on football and always will, this story will blow over and the same things will carry on happening, so it makes me laugh that people are heaping praise on these self important newspapers as if their sole goal was to root out corruption and be the countries moral guardian. Nothing will change except people will now just be more careful, the only way it could possibly change is if money disappeared from football, that wont be happening any time soon. The preciousness that people are pontificating on here is nauseating. All they have done is simply reveal to fans what they already suspected and mostly did not really care about.

Only place he ever had any (small) success - think he got sacked from every other job

Institutionalised corruption in our nation rife and bolstered by a largely complicit press...Orgreave, Hillsborough ,blacklsting,weapons of mass destruction, IRA framing,etc. And now we are in apoplexy over a hapless football manager trying to earn a dodgy wedge. Simply unbelievable.

It's nice to see some people agree the press are out of order the way they conduct themselves at times.

Reading (The Sun) paper Today one of their writers agreed with Big Sam leaving his position but he also thought it was a very brave move as the FA lawyer's advised them Big Sam had actually done nothing legally wrong under his contract.

Of course they can. But adopting a higher moral tone does sit comfortably....

Big Sam had actually done nothing legally wrong under his contract.

First of, have they seen the contract or are they just guessing, 2nd it may well be true in which case whoever drew the contract should also be sacked as any number of clauses can easily cover this.

Love that this 'investigative journalism that is in the public interest' is being dragged out over a week leading up to the big headlines in the sunday papers

Next week - more shocking revelations about how football agents are making actual money out of footballers!!!

no one will ever speak to the telegraph ever again....

their football supplement must be dead in the water