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I hope The Telegraph & the British Press are happy with themselves
I hope The Telegraph & the British Press are happy with themselves
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99% of people would have gladly said "Yes, I'll take 400k for a speech", they all do it including Fergie. Most that call it greed and criticise him for it are highly likely to be hypocrites.
The average football fan chooses to pay inflated price, you are not forced. How does a payment made to a manager by people who have nothing to do with football force prices up at the gates?  Prices are set that high because fans are willing (stupid) enough to pay them, as they do when they choose to pay for their sky subscriptions. |
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I said it is practices like this that force up the price of players, and their wages. It most definately does have an impact. Of course people are sheep and pay, they arent forced to, yes , but the marketing machine bombards people so they do crack. It does not make it right though.
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Don't get the idea he was trapped. He trapped himself. They likely target managers all the time. If you are dodgy enough to get involved you get caught, if you just say no then nothing can happen.
The fact Allardyce was happy to go along with this meeting. Turned up with his agent and a lawyer, tells you he has likely been doing this for years, as what are the chances he just decided to start 2 weeks after becoming England manager? |
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Bang on 100% n88uk - certain people can't get this through their heads though.
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The FA were asked if they were embarrased by this, their reply beggars belief. Don't think i need to tell people the gist of it.
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How is Yayas agent, how is any football agent allowed to make money off transfers, push their players into decisions etc but Allardyce isnt even allowed to have a hypothetical discussion in a pub
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He's the England Manager - i think that counts for something. We all know what scum agents are already.
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We need the press to expose corruption and stupidity, the Leveson enquiry nearly scuppered all that.
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Allardyce was the hors d'oeuvre:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/27/exclusive-eight-premier-league-managers-took-transfer-bungs-clai/ |
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Its a good thing stings like this uncovered the MP's expenses scandal , phone tapping, Is that the same phone tapping that led the parents of Millie Dowler to believe she was still alive ???? Absolute scum of the earth. |
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Trapped is probably the incorrect word. Coaxed, baited, whatever, but they went after him and you're praising them, they're would be no story if they hadn't created one.
The papers will do this again, even when Stuart Peace was in charge of England for ONE game on a temporary basis, and was in danger of taking the media's choice, Redknapp, they had a front page splash dated back 25 years ago involving an incident with Paul Ince that was done and dusted then. Instead of lapping up the people who are trying to stop England achieving anything, you seem more interested in reveling in gutter press stings like this and phone hacking including that of a dead schoolgirl. He wasn't good enough anyway so probably done them a favour but that was hardly their motive. |
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Okay, I agree Allardyce has been greedy and foolish. However, The Daily Telegraph have sunk to a real low to get this story and I suspect it will be a while before anyone within football, or sport in general, does them any favours by speaking with any of their "journalists".
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Speechless that feckless half wits seem to think it's ok that the man in charge of looking after our nations football team is pre-occupied with further lining his own pockets in murky waters against a clearly defined set of rules designed to stop corruption.
Even more concerning is comparing the investigative journalism to uncover the corrupt and greedy ongoing gravy train in our national game to hacking a murdered girls phone! Football has become a bloated, corrupt and morally bankrupt sport where UEFA, PL managers, overpaid footballers and ruthless agents dominate. The fans are treated with utter contempt and are fleeced with 'sky' high prices in order to facilitate this. Then muggerised et al are indignant that p1ssing in their soup is morally wrong. Well sorry, but the game needs cleaning up from the top down; and not accepting the brushing under the carpet of corruption and greed that facilitates the modern football circus. |
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The press are a law unto themselves that use opportunism to stir up sales.
There should be transparency in the whole entrapment agenda, namely how often they bait people and fail and who those seemingly honest individuals were. They hide behind the sword of Damocles metaphor but all the are interested in is fabricating stories to line pockets. |
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The Telegraph have done a great job here. The English gloated over the exposure of Blatter and Platini but their game also stinks. Too much money, arrogance and greed considering the third rate product.
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^If you are a clean manager you likely are happy that The Telegraph are exposing the dirty tricks that other managers are up to. I can't imagine any managers actually like agents apart from those that are in bed with them.
So only the managers with something to hide are likely to be unhappy with the investigation, which tbf sounds like about half of them. |
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Isn't creating a paid position that doesn't exist also fraud?
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well said Charwell
Seems the Telegraphs investigations have been going on for almost a year so no doubt more headlines to come in next few days And they would only be doing this if they knew that this stuff was going on - I applaud them for exposing it Some proper cretins on this thread |
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Seems a few on here have been duped by the telegraphs non story so no better than Big Sam really.
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Proper journalism and reporting at its finest.
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Implying journalists care about integrity is like suggesting lawyers care about justice.
In both cases it's simply a revenue stream. |
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Agree JM,as others have said the telegraph will have done their homework and realised him and his team were up for this sort of thing,he looked pretty comfortable giving it large to me and no doubt thought the England job was his ticket to the very top of Gravy train.No doubt sick as the proverbial parrot this morning.
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The Panorama programme of 2006 about corruption in football heavily featured Allardyce and his son Craig. If you're involved with fotball right at the top like the FA you'd be unlikely to not know what was going on with high profile individuals so the FA are either stupid, desperate or perhaps corruption goes a lot deeper than is known at the moment.
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This reminds me of the story the scorpion and the frog.But which one is scorpion ?
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Life is a game Charlene, nobody is going to give a f&&& about your morals when you are dead, play or be played, he wanted more money, easy money, big deal. This type of thing is always going to happen, happened 20 odd years ago to George Graham and is happening 20 years later to not just Sam but to 8 other known managers in the Premier League. In every industry there is greed, banking, politics, Law and even the medical profession, consultants charging the NHS, 4 figure sums for one nights work. Tying to 'clean up the game' completely is as likely to happen as climbing Everest with a fridge on your back. So now the world knows Sam is like the rest of us, greedy, and now we have an even lesser manager foisted upon us.
I also advocate cheating in games or 'clever play', then England might actually get somewhere, diving, waving cards, time wasting, winding players up, it's helped other countries in the past so why not, the culture in this country of fair play has the rest of the world laughing at us, that's why the World Cup is also going to Russia. They know the score. One day you might wake up. |
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Turn it in, you mug.
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Whatever anyone thinks of the telegraph and the latest England manager it all just goes to show that the problem with English football (football the game - not the business) these days is that nearly every decision is to do with money rather than football.
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Mesmerised is right, morals schmorals, and his wife pulls a train with the best of them.
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Luv it when the media get on their high horse about morals.
I've just checked on my list of things I couldn't give a toss about .....this comes in at number 356. |
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BFS will have thought the same...until yesterday.
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Allegations Allardyce took a bung for the loan of Ravel Morrison to Cardiff. Looking very likely Big Sam will not work in England again.
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Possible there was history between Allardyce and those journos? IMHO they knew or strongly suspected b4hand that Sam was a bad on boy on the make and they thought the time was right to show the world. Possibly
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I know it sounded a bit simple, Kellydamo, but I meant those ACTUAL journos
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Farewell Big Sam, we hardly knew ye.
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I still think newspaper should be forced to declare all the failed attempts at temptation.
The way they do it now they invest in entrapment and never speak again of the failed ones while making their money back on the ones that they 'catch' That means you hear nothing of virtue but get a steady stream of 'cheating', so the knock on effect is to see only those that 'cheat'. |