FOBT's = limited stakes

Was in Billy Hills last Tuesday or Wednesday first time in a year or so just in and out.

No one was in bar 2 workers and even the 3-4 roulette wheels where not getting played this was about 1pm maybe.Maybe people are getting the idea of those robbing machines just empty wallets and one lucky fecker will hit a winning streak and tell you how to play roulette, fark off you t1t you hit 0 3 x in a row ya kn0b end.

ive worked in one for 10 years, anyone want to offer me a job so i can get out fast???!!??

Get a transfer yuvutu different shop new atmosphere and all that

why cant you get your bets on at betfair ?

mes works at tesco next door , when they need him in the mini tesco express he land son his feet with he bookie next door and no min £2s

There is not an ounce of wit inside your deep fried mars bar brain is there

deep fried mars bar brain , with witty stuff like this you mean

Fck sake mate deep fried mars bars as far as i know where introduced in the 90s and are on no menu in my area.The Myth got all the plebs thinking we eat fried mars.That's just fat fecks who do that and all those shows about fat sh1ts in UK are made in England.

I have never seen a deep fried mars i don't think maybe one back in the 90s and the guy got called a savage for eating it , sure they do toffee crisps in places , manky coonts.

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Why is your spelling and grammar so bad, Chaser? Were you home educated ?

I've never ever seen a chippie selling fried mars bars.
I think us Scots are too sophisticated for stuff like that.

Chaser seen yer earlier post re roulette system.
Was in a laddies and one ne'er do well was telling all and sundry of a system for the cartoon races.
The only thing I remember was bet any number 11 that is 22/1. Never lose seemingly.

The people who play them are clueless , i played them for a while when they first arrived , then you get people telling you how to win on them and they believe there is a system

They are all linked around the other shops aren't they? They just drop to some lucky fecker or someone who has ploughed a grand in and walks with 500 quid in his back burner and thinks he is up for the day.


mesmerised 21 Sep 16 23:51 Joined: 10 Nov 10 | Topic/replies: 16,723 | Blogger: mesmerised's blog
Why is your spelling and grammar so bad, Chaser? Were you home educated ?

I don't go over things after i type mate i don't care about mistakes on betfair forums

I can spell any word i need to , my fkcing name on the dole card

Is portman park still a cartoon track , thats the first i remember

My mate did a raffle in the bookies he managed with the first prize a tour of portman park.
He caught about 20

Take it he handed the raffle money back

always bet the virtual pushes at betfred on saturday from 10.00am

He never actually took any money.
Just had one of them 1 -100 jobs.

did he do the draw in the bookie

why 10 duke is this a sequence

It was 5 tickets for a £1. Get lunch with one of the trainers he told them as he tore out 5 tickets.
Was only when they offered ther £1 he told them.

lunch with the trainer

A guy I used to work with stopped me in the street and whispered, "I`ve got a wire today but don`t tell anybody the horse". I agreed and he told me the horse. "Never heard of it", I told him, "Is it running in Ireland?"

"No", he whispered, "2.30 at Portman Park. A friend of a fiend knows the guy that does the commentaries"!

.... p.s. it got beat and no, no, no, aka - I didn`t bet it

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A guy I used to work with stopped me in the street and whispered, "I`ve got a wire today but don`t tell anybody the horse". I agreed and he told me the horse. "Never heard of it", I told him, "Is it running in Ireland?"

"No", he whispered, "2.30 at Portman Park. A friend of a fiend knows the guy that does the commentaries"! LaughLaugh

.... p.s. it got beat and no, no, no, aka - I didn`t bet it LaughLaugh

When i was about 18ish me and a few mates where in the bookie and a regular gave us a tip ( his tip ) he had pennies on it and told us to keep it hush as the price would crash if it got about and you know the rest.

My horse was just coming up for to catch the leader , last fence so i shout fall ya bast anyway mine went on to lose and i got told of from the old mob that was not on as they cheered it home

bookies where old timer meeting points but arcade joints now

Not virtual racing i'm on about

The Coup - Ken Payne`s biography. Get a copy of that chaser if you can. Great read. He used to raid the Scottish tracks in the 70s and landed many a hefty gamble. It`s been reprinted and on Amazon.

There is also a dvd named Murphy`s Stroke about the Gay Future betting coup at Cartmel on a 70s Bank Holiday. Well worth a watch.

The cartmel one is that when it was a fake card and no races at all ?

I'll check them out

I have never read it proper just seen it mentioned on here and wiki i think

You hear all sorts of nonsense from the regulars in the bookies.
Was standing next to a FOBT studying a race card when a punter went up to the FOBT player and told him "7 coming up a lot today"
Feckin lunatics some of them.

No mate. They brought a Ringer over from Ireland and trainer entered it along with two stablemates across the card and they went round all the shops punting the three in Trebles with no intention of running the other two. In fact they never left the stables but phoned the other track, where the other two were running, telling them the horse box had broke down and they were scratched. All the money went on to the Ringer and it romped home. I`ll tell you no more. Watch the film.

The non runner fecked them mac.
You remember the tote con that McCririck unearthed?
They used to bump in imaginary bets if the dividend was too big.
They stuck too much in and 2 loud ones paid pennies in a dual forecast.

You sure do aka. Betting shops are like theatres. Only more entertaining.

The thing with these machines is that you have no opinion whatsoever. If I back a horse at 10/11 I have studied and came up with an opinion. Win or lose it's down to me whether I'm right or wrong. No choice with the machines.

I mind of that aka. I think the warm favourite that day was Little Owl which got pulled up. They changed the face of Tote betting.

Little Owl mmmm backed that beast a few times. Was it Easterby that trained it?

You can`t beat the machines stewarty. They are programmed to beat you.

The AI robots the Japanese are developing are absolutely scary. One day, AI robots will take over the world just like in The Terminator films. We`re Doomed, Doomed!

Wrong spelling there.

AKA your right , to start with you got a mix of people now it's just people who need help


Sounds a good watch mac i will watch it soon , won't bother reading about it as i don't think iv'e heard about this one.Where was the fake card one about if you know?

WW lost his job as chairman and they appointed there Scottish regional manager to the position

Yes stewarty. M H (Peter) Easterby and always ridden by the owner Mr A J Wilson. It won the Gold Cup and was a great favourite of mine. Easterby trained some magnificent jumpers during that period, with Night Nurse being the best.

I've never played them mac. Having said that on the odd occassion I'll risk a few bob in the casino. (blackjack)

On the machines that is

Bookies have lot's of characters or did have anyway.Losing businesses and marriages some of them and ending up in loony bins

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The thing with these machines is that you have no opinion whatsoever. If I back a horse at 10/11 I have studied and came up with an opinion. Win or lose it's down to me whether I'm right or wrong. No choice with the machines.
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if you know the system though

Those were the days mac with Monksfield and Sea Pigeon.

Actually Little Owl was a chaser, my mistake.

There was a con in the early 60s pre the bookies when it was postal betting only.
Company opened an office in Edinburgh and took fortunes on the ante-post markets.
Went best prices and fecked off with the lot when the first event took place.

The Golden Era stewarty. Birds Nest, Tree Tangle, Night Nurse, Lanzarote, Comedy Of Errors, Bula, Persian War, Dramatist, great days.

All these horse before my time

late 70s-80s?

Early 70s Chaser.

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There was a con in the early 60s pre the bookies when it was postal betting only.
Company opened an office in Edinburgh and took fortunes on the ante-post markets.
Went best prices and fecked off with the lot when the first event took place.

The old cons are classics

Its Sea Pigeon that rang a bell for some reason

Persian War was the late 60s I believe ridden by Jimmy Uttley. A beast of a horse.

I'm sure McCririck mentioned that racecard con in his book chaser.

The days of the betting Coup are sadly gone nowadays with all these computers and wall to wall racing on tv. I used to bet the winners in Ireland on a Saturday after my cousin phoned me the result straight from the track. Indie bookies would put the line to the side and never got the results until Monday in the Sporting Life. Always threw in a couple of losers with them and never got greedy and never got sussed out

Just checked it won the champion hurdle twice that's probably why it rang a bell as the champion hurdle is probably my favourite race.

I will share a better con than that one night chaps, carried out by my late father believe it or not. It's a long story and as I only type with one finger I will open a nice bottle of Peroni and enjoy as It would take me too long to type.

Dondieu was another mac

AKA he probably would have im trying to find it

Dickinson had some brilliant horses Aka if I say so myself, hmm

Dramatist I may be wrong mac but didn't Fulke Walwyn train that beast?

And Bula too, another great from the period.

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The days of the betting Coup are sadly gone nowadays with all these computers and wall to wall racing on tv. I used to bet the winners in Ireland on a Saturday after my cousin phoned me the result straight from the track. Laugh Indie bookies would put the line to the side and never got the results until Monday in the Sporting Life. Laugh Always threw in a couple of losers with them and never got greedy and never got sussed out LaughLaugh

I was told about people betting winners i was never on one though as missed it , also people backing dogs half way round the track etc

Yes, spot on stewarty. Was owned by Basil Twaites and usually ridden by Bill Smith.

stewarty b 22 Sep 16 01:32 Joined: 02 Aug 02 | Topic/replies: 10,312 | Blogger: stewarty b's blog
I will share a better con than that one night chaps, carried out by my late father believe it or not. It's a long story and as I only type with one finger I will open a nice bottle of Peroni and enjoy as It would take me too long to type.

You better not drop any your dad's old timer mates in the sh1t

We look forward to reading about it stewarty

I thought Bula was trained by Fred Winter?

Back to Dickinsons. Silver Buck, Gay Spartan, Bregawn, Broncho II, Captain John and of course me.

Yes he was stewarty, I just went off track having missed him earlier and aka taking his username from Bula.

The Persian War story is a great read. Only the greats have books entirely about them written.

mac, you should have added that Dickinson had the first five home in the Gold Cup.

Bregawn being one, Silver Buck?, the others I would need to google.

The best con was by Cyril Stein and exposed by John Banks (I think)
You remember that controversy mac?

must be a good few documentaries or films on youtube about them cons

I can`t remember that aka. I remember they were at loggerheads in the 70s with Banks ridiculing Ladbrokes for refusing bets. He tried to name a horse Greenwich Mean Stein but was refused permission, so called it Adorable Cyril instead.

Brian Curley pulled off one of the biggest gambles ever. He knew his horse was going to win in Ireland and backed it at fancy prices with a load of books. There was only one pnone box at the course and when the bookies reps tried to hedge by phone he employed a man to 'capture' the phone saying his mother was seriously ill in hospital. The horse duly obliged at a fancy price and the on course books were fleeced because they couldn't hedge.

Other 3 stewarty were Wayward Lad, Captain John and Ashley House.

Cyril was laddies chairman.
Would have a bet at the track and settle up at the end of the day with the bookies.
If having a bad day would tell a bookie he'd lost with they were company bets.
One day as he walked away from Banks stand after placing a bet  Banks shouted after him. Yours or the companies Cyril.

Barneys book is a great read Stew.

Were you thinking about the Prince de Galles failed coup aka?

When Prince de Galles was favourite for the Lincoln, Banks fielded against him to such an extent that he stood to lose £156,000. Lester Piggott failed by a neck to land the gamble, and Banks had one of several notable victories over Ladbrokes, and their supremo Cyril Stein, who had been among the biggest backers of Prince de Galles.

Barneys book is a great read Stew.  I haven't read it aka but at least you got his name right!

One of the earliest recorded horse race betting coups on record was the success of Elis in the 1836 St Leger. Elis’s owner, Lord Bentinck, was one of racing’s great reformers and a fearless punter. These were the days when one had to walk one’s horse to the races as decent roads were few and far between. Bentinck was well aware that bookmakers, knowing that he was based down at Goodwood, would lengthen the horse’s odds and he set about constructing a special carriage to transport Elis up to Doncaster. Bookies happily gave Bentinck 12-1 about Elis, but, pulled by six horses at the rate of 80 miles a day, a rested Elis arrived on Town Moor two days before the race and duly hosed up at 7-2.

I know they didn't like each other.
Has Mcallister still got betting shops in Glasgow mac.
Davey was Banks right hand man when he had his chain of shops.
Last time I spoke to him he'd handed his shops over to his son Shaw.
That was about 20 years ago though.

How much did you have on mac

Is that it for the night lads? I'm just getting warmed up! Mind you I wont be so clever come 9am!

Oops, still going.

Not sure aka. Think they have one in Partick.

How much did you have on mac

Goodnight guys. Have to go.

Davey did great on the football over the years concentrating on the lower divisions.
He was a gentleman as well with The Winner reportedly modelled on him.

Goodnight mac

Goodnight all.

I'm off as well so goodnight Stew, Chaser and any lurkers

Goodnight aka, I still have a Peroni to drink while listening to the Two Mikes. I must get a life.

*Ms stew expecting breakfast in bed at 7:30am. No Chance.

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Laugh

The people who play them are clueless , i played them for a while when they first arrived ,

Chaser - Google Trodmore Hunt.

What's the subject tonight lads? Horseracing, Fitba, women, or gambling? (right thread this time)

I have seen betting shop staff give punters on fobts refreshments and ignore punters watching racing.