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By:
akabula
When: 08 Sep 16 23:12
This guy got caught out LaughLaughLaugh

By:
hippie
When: 08 Sep 16 23:24
The Law Lords, UEFA, FIFA and The SFA have all said we are the same club...

aka, I get your point but you're stretching credulity there,

The ECA is the sole independent body recognised by UEFA and FIFA as representing clubs at European level...Rangers FC, owned by the Rangers Football Club Plc, transferred all its assets, including its goodwill, to Sevco Ltd (Sevco Ltd later changing its name to the Rangers Football Club Ltd) ...Taking into account that the 'new entity' also acquired the goodwill of the 'old entity', it was held by the ECA executive board that the goodwill, taking into account legal and practical arguments, also included the history of the 'old company'.

http://stv.tv/sport/football/clubs/rangers/205975-european-clubs-body-downgrades-rangers-status-but-recognises-history/

[The Rangers International Football Club Plc was then formed as the holding company by the owners The Rangers Football Club Ltd, with the latter becoming a wholly owned subsidiary of the former]


By:
akabula
When: 08 Sep 16 23:42
Not sure what point you are trying to make here hippie.
Nobody disputing it is a new company but it is universally accepted that the team is an entity in its own right and that link you have provided confirms that.

Celtic fans have written to everyone and received the same response from all in that Rangers are a football team with a history stretching back to 1872.
By:
hippie
When: 08 Sep 16 23:50
My point is we all know you are the same club but it would be unethical for those bodies to say you are.

The Rangers public relations stance is that the club remain the same as ever, history intact, despite the fresh corporate identity created by liquidation. It would be an obvious stance were it not contradicted by insistence from within Ibrox that the club should not be retrospectively punished if found guilty of illegally registering players during use of the now infamous employee benefit trust scheme.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2012/jul/28/rangers-uncharted-waters-fears


By:
akabula
When: 08 Sep 16 23:54
Unethical? Why?
Check out their websites and they all say it's the same team.
By:
akabula
When: 08 Sep 16 23:56
Unethical? That's a cracker hippie. Not sure how you arrived at that.
By:
hippie
When: 09 Sep 16 00:03
I see you've changed the phraseology from club to team and unethical because you would have the law and football governing bodies condoning creative accountancy.

You can't have your cake and eat it. Suck it up.
By:
akabula
When: 09 Sep 16 00:08
Club and team is the same thing.
BTW hippie you're showing a fair degree of ignorance of the facts by using the term creative accountancy.

Shows you're debating something that you don't know the facts about.
By:
hippie
When: 09 Sep 16 00:10
It's not a debate, it's you spinning. I've said my piece. Home win.
By:
akabula
When: 09 Sep 16 00:15
hippie you haven't a clue. Good night and lay of the shandies. Laugh
By:
Platini
When: 09 Sep 16 00:25
Aka, I'm just drawing a logical conclusion from what I saw in that match. The handbrake was well and truly applied that day. Why was that ?
By:
akabula
When: 09 Sep 16 00:30
People jumping on the bandwagon from what the Edinburgh player said about the Hearts/Hibs game.
If it had happened word would have got out within weeks of it happening.
By:
themightymac
When: 09 Sep 16 00:30
I`m going to the game. It`s going to be great bringing them back to reality. LaughLaugh
By:
akabula
When: 09 Sep 16 00:33
Not saying celtic didn't ease off but the game was won and they defended their lead.
Seen it happen in loads of games. Anyways what about Saturday.
Do you think Griffiths is a doubt or is Brenda at it?
Would be a massive loss for celtic if he does miss the game.
By:
akabula
When: 09 Sep 16 00:34
Try and behave yerself mac and no invading the pitch please.
By:
themightymac
When: 09 Sep 16 00:40
No worries aka. Last pitch I invaded was Wembley Crazy
By:
the bairn
When: 09 Sep 16 00:48
speaking purely as a neutral, why are Celtic supporters besotted with Rangers, the o p is Celtic v Rangers, then the Celtic supporters come on and say they are not playing Rangers, how f--kin thick are they, I don't profess to know much about the legalities concerning Rangers but, they are Rangers and always will be, that is why their will be so much hatred from Celtic supporters towards them on saturday, their is no hiding that fact, you never hear Celtic fans beratting Clyde, Airdrieonians or The Shire who have all had similar problems to Rangers. my message to Celtic fans is, start enjoying the your football, this obsession with Rangers is making you look like fools. cheers.
By:
themightymac
When: 09 Sep 16 00:52
It`s good to hear the views of a neutral Falkirk supporter LaughLaughLaugh


... cheers.
By:
the bairn
When: 09 Sep 16 01:04
just trying to calm the situation Mac. cheers.Wink
By:
themightymac
When: 09 Sep 16 01:10
LaughLaughWink
By:
trilby22
When: 09 Sep 16 09:19
Old Firm phone in on Radio Scotland right now.

Quote one guy, "Celtic need Rangers more than Rangers need Celtic.  Proved by the fact Celtic have been playing to 20,000 the last four years while Ibrox has been packed recently."

60,000 @ Porkheid tomorrow?  1.01
By:
themightymac
When: 09 Sep 16 13:30
It`s tough asking fans to turn up every week when there is no competition and they know they are going to win. When Celtic were in the doldrums they were getting packed houses with fans singing, "Always look on the bright side of life".

I remember the years when Rangers were struggling badly and crowds of 10-15 Thousand turned up.
By:
themightymac
When: 09 Sep 16 13:35
Scottish football will be better all round down the line if Sevco can provide some serious opposition in a few years time. They are not at that point yet. They will be doing really well if they can finish in the top 5 this season but I think their target is to stay up and avoid relegation LaughLaugh

I assume that you are all lumping on at the huge price of 9/2 tomorrow?
By:
Geesyerdosh
When: 09 Sep 16 14:14
The big hoose must stay open

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyFXEHp-u-o

Akabula telling it straight Laugh
By:
trilby22
When: 09 Sep 16 14:52
LOL, get with the times - ye mugs!

When Pacificshelf were in their doldrums there were plenty of us Bluenoses supporting Fungus Mcsquint for the good of Scottish fitba.

Nevermind the weather, as long as we're together, we're off to watch the Wild West show ... working on the M74 by Bellshill for the game but I'll have running commentary all day Cry

Enjoy the game lads & gerrit right up ye Chaser Excited
By:
li
When: 09 Sep 16 16:03
Okay – I give up! I’ve been in denial.

I really have missed Rangers.

I’m really looking forward to the Old Firm game.

I really believe they are the same club.

I really believe it was the holding company that got liquidated.

I really believe they were relegated to the fourth division.

I really believe it was a punishment.

I really believe it was because of bigotry.

I really think it was a huge mistake to have them demoted.

I really think this was terrible for Scottish football and is the reason why the national team haven’t qualified for a tournament since 1998.

I really think Scottish football has been rubbish these past four years and not even worth watching.

I really think Celtic should hand back the titles won in the last four years as they are completely meaningless.

I really believe Rangers would have been neck and neck with us in 2014-15 when we finished 56 points ahead of Motherwell who beat them 6-1 after they finished third in the Championship.

I really believe that it was because we didn’t have Rangers in the league that we only beat Barcelona 2-1 in 2012-13.

I really believe that Rangers were given a three year ban from Europe for going into administration and that Hearts avoided that same ban because someone at UEFA slipped up.

I have no idea what Sevco is – other than maybe an anagram of coves.

I really don’t give a hoot about the Barcelona game or any of the other Champions League games.

I’d much rather have more games against Rangers instead.

Sorry – Old Firm games against Rangers.

I really believe that if we finish 20 points ahead of Rangers this season it will still have been a more competitive season than finishing 15 points ahead of Aberdeen last season – just because it’s Rangers.

I really think the two teams are evenly matched and they will be a close rival in the coming years.

I really don’t think Celtic has an identity of its own and only has any global recognition through being half of the Old Firm with Rangers.

I really think the whole £100m+ debt/EBT episode was nothing major and anyway it allowed Rangers to be competitive with Celtic which is the main thing.

So good to get that off my chest. Now I don’t need to be in denial anymore.
By:
akabula
When: 09 Sep 16 16:11
That's the way to go Li. Don't let yer paranoia control ye. WinkLaugh
By:
akabula
When: 09 Sep 16 16:13
Twitter been great this week. There is no Old Firm claimed one celtic supporter on the Monday.
Tuesday he was tweeting "Has anyone got any spare Old Firm tickets going". LaughLaughLaugh
By:
li
When: 09 Sep 16 16:20
Cheers, Aka; thought you'd enjoy that
By:
sofiakenny
When: 09 Sep 16 16:32
you watching the game at your lodge ackie?
By:
trilby22
When: 09 Sep 16 16:36
Li's post was so riveting I stopped reading after the fourth line.

You shaggin' yer right hand for the game, sofi?
By:
akabula
When: 09 Sep 16 16:37
How did you know I had a lodge home at Loch Lomond Kenny?
By:
trilby22
When: 09 Sep 16 16:37
POLICE NOTICE ... social media is being monitored.
By:
akabula
When: 09 Sep 16 16:38
The softlads caravan will be rockin. Laugh
By:
trilby22
When: 09 Sep 16 16:38
Excited
By:
trilby22
When: 09 Sep 16 16:43
The loon's caravan's permanently rockin' this time of year aka with all those sheep being shawn.
By:
akabula
When: 09 Sep 16 16:50
It`s tough asking fans to turn up every week when there is no competition and they know they are going to win. When Celtic were in the doldrums they were getting packed houses with fans singing, "Always look on the bright side of life".

I think yer getting mixed up with your time in the secure unit mac.
By:
trilby22
When: 09 Sep 16 16:54
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By:
akabula
When: 09 Sep 16 16:55
What was he thinking if not for a bet. Laugh

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By:
trilby22
When: 09 Sep 16 16:59
shree wan?  No, that was Oor Kenny in disguise.

Fat Barstewart.
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