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By:
DAN1974
When: 04 Sep 16 18:58
Top of the group, easy peasy, about 10/1 for the world cup now i reckon
By:
sewter lives again
When: 04 Sep 16 18:58
That was the worst thing that could have happened

Papers over the cracks

the players will think "they done good"
By:
minka
When: 04 Sep 16 18:59
GIVE SAM A KNIGHTHOOD I RECKON
By:
songsforthedeaf
When: 04 Sep 16 18:59

Sep 4, 2016 -- 6:52PM, jewell wrote:


Sep  4, 2016 --  6:44PM, Try My Best wrote:For all those coaches in charge of kids football teams I implore you to stop talking shiite and let kids take people on and encourage skill and individuality. If you don't this is the mess that we will have to witness for the next 100 yearsWon't happen, mate.We need a complete footballing culture change in this country, from top to bottom. That includes managers, administrators, broadcasters, media, coaches and fans.Fans are part of the problem too, they expect everyone to graft at the back and put a shift in, even the flair players whose sole focus should be attacking. This attitude needs to change. Players like Gascoigne were always viewed with suspicion in this country, seen as a luxury player.I think it's really sad when you think that someone like Messi would not have emerged in this country. He would have been discarded straight up, would not have even been given a chance. Unfortunately, coaches prefer massive lumps like Conor Wickham and others of that ilk.


Pretty much agree with that.

Also if people are basing their opinion one way or another on the result of a friendly, then you are very much part of the attitude problem.

By:
Try My Best
When: 04 Sep 16 18:59
jewell

Won't happen, mate.

We need a complete footballing culture change in this country, from top to bottom. That includes managers, administrators, broadcasters, media, coaches and fans.

Fans are part of the problem too, they expect everyone to graft at the back and put a shift in, even the flair players whose sole focus should be attacking. This attitude needs to change. Players like Gascoigne were always viewed with suspicion in this country, seen as a luxury player.

I think it's really sad when you think that someone like Messi would not have emerged in this country. He would have been discarded straight up, would not have even been given a chance. Unfortunately, coaches prefer massive lumps like Conor Wickham and others of that ilk.

Couldn't agree more.
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 04 Sep 16 18:59
To be fair...England were really pushing for the winner there and didn't look as dog sh#t as there were vs Iceland
By:
Try My Best
When: 04 Sep 16 19:02
Might be the case they were playing with an extra player and still didn't create f all
By:
Greg_Gory
When: 04 Sep 16 19:04
total fix walofs on here Laugh
By:
themightymac
When: 04 Sep 16 19:04
Scotland will walk that Group.
By:
MC Roller
When: 04 Sep 16 19:04
I love it when negative time wasting teams concede very late on. Serves you right you pathetic anti football mugs.

hahahahahaha
By:
betchat
When: 04 Sep 16 19:06
It's a relief to know that Sam isn't going to tinker with England's traditional and renowned football style and flair.
By:
ufcdan
When: 04 Sep 16 19:06
Usually I'd bol0ck the missus for serving up dinner while footballs on, my chicken roast was a welcome distraction Love
By:
mecca
When: 04 Sep 16 19:07
I like Sam.  Good black country lad
By:
Try My Best
When: 04 Sep 16 19:07
SAM TALKING UTTER BALLOCKS
By:
Baulkline
When: 04 Sep 16 19:08
Want to know the reason England won? Bradley Walsh and Paddy McGuiness
By:
ufcdan
When: 04 Sep 16 19:09
Confirmed Rooney untouchable, he is the future ! Moscow bound CryCryCryCryCryCry
By:
ufcdan
When: 04 Sep 16 19:10
Like England I can't compete with that Reg Wink
By:
fool proof
When: 04 Sep 16 19:11
Rooney can play wherever he likes
By:
mecca
When: 04 Sep 16 19:13
Praising Alli now...

He had a shocking game
By:
ufcdan
When: 04 Sep 16 19:14
You really are posh Reg CoolCoolCool
By:
DAN1974
When: 04 Sep 16 19:15
How the feck can a manager say that a player can play wherever he wants? what kind of message does that send out.
By:
ufcdan
When: 04 Sep 16 19:17
TBF Dan Chelsea had a player who played where he wanted back in the day Petar Barota.........goalkeeper Mischief
By:
Try My Best
When: 04 Sep 16 19:49
Bonetti
By:
lybertyne
When: 04 Sep 16 21:25
I missed tha Lallana goal as I had fallen asleep shortly after the red card incident.
By:
1st time poster
When: 05 Sep 16 09:18
this is the bit i dont get regards rooney he,s played for england and a top club under numerous so called top coaches
so lets say i was given the training for a week and the players listened to what i had to say, every time rooney played a floaty,sq 50,60 yd attempted  passs out to the fullbacks, when the opposition had everyone behind the ball you,d stop training and say no wayne thats not what we,re trying to achieve but rooney just carrys on and seems really happy at his attempted pass,s not realising or not bothered thats exactly what the opposition want him to do,i really cant believe this is what fergie,jose,cappello,woy sam etc spent all week asking him to do
By:
OnePercenter
When: 05 Sep 16 09:40
Does Rooney pick the squad too?
By:
Somerset Sam
When: 05 Sep 16 10:20
When Sam comes in he'll whip these underworked, overpaid prima donnas into shape, and get the best out of an underperforming squad.

One game in and apparently not.
By:
OnePercenter
When: 05 Sep 16 10:31
Very disappointed with Allardyce's decision to let Rooney play where ever he likes. Does not sound like strong management and is not ever going to get England to the WC semis which should surely be the minimum the FA want.
By:
DAN1974
When: 05 Sep 16 11:12
I was all for Big Sam coming in, for the reasons mentioned above. I was flabbergasted with what i saw last night and with what i heard after the game.
I just don't get it. Every man and his dog could see the formation was wrong in the Euros, i have not heard any pundit, fan, ex pro or anyone who thinks Rooney should be playing a deep lying role spraying 40 yard diagonal balls around.
   Like i said earlier in the thread i'm starting to believe all of the conspiracy theories.

Whatever you believe it certainly looks like things aren't going to change much, which is really depressing. Sad
By:
tangsoodo
When: 05 Sep 16 11:23
^ same exactly
By:
enpassant
When: 05 Sep 16 12:27
Rooney : apparently to big to tell him where to play. Ridiculous. We have 2 more years of the same ineptitude ahead of us, at a minimum. Henderson and Dier with Rooney hahaha utterly depressing.
By:
nors
When: 05 Sep 16 12:29
Nothing much seemed to have changed. However he didn't have much choice with the players to choose from.
By:
1st time poster
When: 05 Sep 16 12:29
its unfathomable
day one ,min one on training ground from any of the million coaches,managers in england,the opposition want to get 10 men behind the ball and want us to use our best players to play 50 ,60 yd passes to fullbacks so rule no 1 we dont do it ,get it capiche,
not us we pay fat sam 3 million to tell rooney to do what he wants which 99% of the time is what the opposition manager wants,maybe its some cunning baldrick type plan to do away with opposition managers, like i say unfathomable
why doesnt someone sit rooney,englands midfield down and show them the 100,s upon 100,s of attempted crosses walkers has either brayed into a defenders arse or into the crowd,
on another point i presume when walkers braying the ball into a defender he,s aiming for an attacker or space in the box,why not try aiming for the defender in the 1st place on his track record when aiming to hit him 99% of the time he,ll miss him and end up putting it in the box by default, LaughLaugh
By:
tangsoodo
When: 05 Sep 16 12:31
why are we such a mess
By:
enpassant
When: 05 Sep 16 13:03
Walker is not a patch on Cline, Dier and Henderson should never, ever, be picked in the same side again (or in the first place in fact), sterling needs Pep to teach him how to play with a ball before we pick him again. But all the opinions in the world count for nothing when Rooney not only gets into the squad but gets to choose, ad hoc, where he wants to play. You couldn't make it up.
By:
johnnythebull
When: 05 Sep 16 13:38
i don't get all this vitriol for the greatest player that has ever graced the game
always in top shape,blessed with a razor sharp mind
what manager would not want him in the side to make onfield and off field decisions?
so allowing the manager to not get too stressed and burnt out
and incur the opprobrium of our infamous media
By:
TheChaser
When: 05 Sep 16 14:17
Sam says he can't pick where Rooney plays

So Is Wazza like some joint coach or something or just demands a free roll , makes up for his excuses about being out of position at everything i suppose.
By:
tim6
When: 05 Sep 16 14:20
johnny who are we talking about pele, maradonna, best, messi as there are a lot just not sure which one you think is the greatest player
By:
ffaith
When: 05 Sep 16 15:43
Rooney is like a general that 'leads' his men from the back rather than the front.  Not out of cowardice but simply because he is well past his peak.
Still I don't blame Rooney.  I blame his indulgers, his enablers.
Men like Sam and Moyes prob. have an inferior complex in the present of Wazza.  After all he is a multiple title winner, UCL winner, top England scorer, etc and they have won f-all.
By:
1st time poster
When: 05 Sep 16 15:50
its annoying when managers,pundits etc go on about the lack of players when they cant even pick the best 11 in a formation from a choice of 15,raniere didnt scream about wanting more players last season,you can only play 11
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