Hi Patrick,

Thanks for your words. I feel robbed. Betfair disregard for its customers is unreal.
I disagree with you about the "money management" part. For what I do (scalping pre match) you need to use big stakes to make it worth. Yes, seldom I go in play, very rare indeed.
I agree about the market management.
Let me show you a piece off my P&L, see how slowly and little by little I earn the money?? Now, take a look at the hit I took when betfair failed to abide to their product on offer. Can you spot it? 

Football / Paysandu v Londrina : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    1.18
Football / Ponte Preta v Sport Recife : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    1.09
Football / Toronto FC v Chicago Fire : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    4.88
Football / Sol de America (Par) v Cerro Porteno : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    4.68
Football / Vasco da Gama v Brasil de Pelotas : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    3.71
Football / Seattle v LA Galaxy : Over/Under 3.5 Goals    9.37
Football / Nautico v CRB : Over/Under 4.5 Goals    3.6
Football / Stallion FC v Agila MSA : Half Time/Full Time    2.07
Football / Stallion FC v Agila MSA : Draw No Bet    0.21
Football / Libertad v River Plate (Par) : Match Odds    16.85
Football / Criciuma v Luverdense : Over/Under 6.5 Goals    -3
Football / Criciuma v Luverdense : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    5.35
Football / UCD v Cabinteely : Match Odds     6.9
Football / Athlone v Shelbourne : Over/Under 3.5 Goals    1.17
Football / Tranmere v Liverpool : Match Odds    -1.71
Football / Start v Bodo Glimt : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    0.94
Football / Weiche Flensburg v Hamburg : Over/Under 7.5 Goals    8.15
Football / Weiche Flensburg v Hamburg : Over/Under 6.5 Goals    2.78
Football / Liaoning Whowin v Shijiazhuang Yongchang : Over/Under 3.5 Goals    16.11
Football / Independiente (Ecu) v Boca Juniors : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    50.47
Football / Germany v France : Over/Under 4.5 Goals    2.28
Football / Germany v France : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    97.43
Football / Stabaek v Connahs Quay : Match Odds    -409.47
Football / Debrecen v La Fiorita : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    -6.46
Football / Debrecen v La Fiorita : Over/Under 4.5 Goals    16.18
Football / Debrecen v La Fiorita : Match Odds    4.31
Football / Fluminense v Ypiranga de Erechim : Match Odds    5.55
Football / Portugal v Wales : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    1.87
Football / Bahia v Vila Nova : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    4.82
Football / Parana v Avai : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    16.72
Football / Dundalk v Longford : Match Odds    29.89
Football / Colorado v Portland Timbers : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    2.81
Football / Sport Recife v Palmeiras : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    29.49
Football / Stromsgodset v Aalesunds : Over/Under 5.5 Goals    0.37
Football / Kansas City v Columbus : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    16.85
Football / France v Iceland : Match Odds    26.51
Football / France v Iceland : Over/Under 5.5 Goals    23.46
Soccer / Atletico PR v America MG : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    -2.66
Soccer / Germany v Italy : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    1.9
Soccer / Chicago Fire v San Jose Earthquakes : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    23.35
Soccer / Sampaio Correa v Paysandu : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    3.53
Soccer / Wales v Belgium : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    38.48
Soccer / Palmeiras v Figueirense : Match Odds    -20.33
Soccer / Santa Cruz PE v Ponte Preta : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    4.68
Soccer / Poland v Portugal : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    1.25
Soccer / Sao Paulo v Fluminense : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    0.18
Soccer / Coritiba v Atletico PR : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    6.74
Soccer / Gremio v Santos : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    8.54
Soccer / Atletico GO v Criciuma : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    15.38
Soccer / Argentina v Chile : Match Odds    62.08
Soccer / Argentina v Chile : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    1.27
Soccer / Corinthians v Santa Cruz PE : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    3.18
Soccer / Croatia v Portugal : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    12.43
Soccer / Criciuma v Bragantino SP : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    14.03
Soccer / Colombia v Chile : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    38.27
Soccer / Colombia v Chile : Match Odds    -8.25
Soccer / Sweden v Belgium : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    -32.78
Soccer / Iceland v Austria : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    28.75
Soccer / Czech Republic v Turkey : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    26.14
Soccer / Northern Ireland v Germany : Match Odds    62.84
Soccer / Romania v Albania : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    -53.95
Soccer / Mexico v Chile : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    100.22
Soccer / Argentina v Venezuela : Correct Score    13.67
Soccer / Portugal v Austria : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    -5.89
Soccer / Belgium v Rep Of Ireland : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    18.73
Soccer / Peru v Colombia : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    6.96
Soccer / Spain v Turkey : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    23.22
Soccer / USA v Ecuador : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    12.45
Soccer / France v Albania : Match Odds    7.77
Soccer / Romania v Switzerland : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    2.26
Soccer / Argentina v Bolivia : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    -4
Soccer / Mexico v Venezuela : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    129.16
Soccer / Belgium v Italy : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    20.68
Soccer / Ecuador v Haiti : Over/Under 2.5 Goals    -0.47
Soccer / Colombia v Costa Rica : Match Odds    2.72
Soccer / Argentina v Panama : Match Odds    2.63

My apologies Trader 11 that was a bit harsh. But you do seem to miss the point that the money you win on here is not Betfair's but mugs ( like me at football which I should really avoid ). If we all went to The Sports book you would be left betting against other traders who all expect to win.

You should factor in things like this in your staking. You could lose your internet connection, have a power cut, anything could happen.

How exactly do you factor a power cut into your betting?

How exactly do you factor a power cut into your betting? Laugh


Don't have a months profit on a IP market for a sake of scalping a few quid and then complain when you're unable to get it out.

That's in addition to the common sense of only having a small % of your bank on a bet. That's betting 101.