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Biffo2010
10 Jun 16 14:44
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Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 3:24 PM BST
no idea.

goals price seems high aswell
Report Ted Brogan June 10, 2016 3:27 PM BST
1) Opening game, so expect a nervy start from the French

2) Romania only conceded 2 goals in qualifying and are likely to be setting out to stick 11 men behind the ball and play for a 0-0, as they will fancy their chances of getting at least one win against the other two opponents in the group

3) If Romania do concede, the format of the tournament (ie 4 of the 3rd placed teams going through) means that it will be in Romania's favour to stick to 11 men behind the ball and play for a 0-1, as again they will fancy their chances of getting 3-4 points against their other two opponents, in which case goal difference will be key
Report MoonJago June 10, 2016 3:28 PM BST
Say hello to the layers. Romania only conceded two in qualifying nerves from the French in the first game. Not much in the move imo
Report donny osmond June 10, 2016 3:28 PM BST
team news leaked ?
Report MoonJago June 10, 2016 3:28 PM BST
Laugh
Report ProSniper June 10, 2016 3:42 PM BST
Welcome to a non-static market. As opinions/positions come in, the price will bounce around in sync with those(and any movements under double figure percentages are hardly uncommon or "alarming")
Report pantsonfire June 10, 2016 4:16 PM BST
Thats over 20% drift on opening price.
Report Ted Brogan June 10, 2016 4:24 PM BST

Jun 10, 2016 -- 4:16PM, pantsonfire wrote:


Thats over 20% drift on opening price.


No it isn't. It's less than 5%

Report throwthetellyoutawindow June 10, 2016 4:25 PM BST
Could be cos 5 or 6 of the French starting 11  ply their trade in England ?? Grin
Report s.kenbo June 10, 2016 4:31 PM BST
You'd get 20% more money back at those prices, wouldn't that be classed as a 20% drift?

Really it's .31 out to .39.
Report johnni June 10, 2016 4:40 PM BST
France will win with much goals.
Report Ted Brogan June 10, 2016 5:30 PM BST
In terms of probability:

1.31 = 76.33%
1.39 = 71.94%

This is a 4.39% difference

By your logic a drift from 1.01 to 1.02 would be a 100% drift, which isn't accurate
Report ProSniper June 10, 2016 5:38 PM BST
No wonder people get scared with certain movements, they don't even understand the significance of them {facepalm}
Report appformat June 10, 2016 5:47 PM BST
Probably just because its the opening game.
Report appformat June 10, 2016 5:52 PM BST
laying France and backing unders, dont expect fireworks in this match.
Report par June 10, 2016 5:59 PM BST
Billys were laying an even tenner earlier today I suppose some burglars have friends n family lapping all that up
Report Ibrahima Sonko June 10, 2016 6:00 PM BST
Given that 3rd place can qualify we could see more goals, Easy France win for me & -1.5 on the asians.
Report Forumite77 June 10, 2016 6:06 PM BST
over 2,5 at 2 is a good bet, will be 3-0 or 3-1...
Report gotitwrong- June 10, 2016 6:08 PM BST
third place qualifying means that it is theoretically possible to qualify with 1 point , might mean goals are scarce though
Report ffaith June 10, 2016 6:09 PM BST
First competitive match for France in 2 years.

Romania only lost once in their last 20 matches or so with about 15 clean sheets

Something on the underdogs for me.
Report jaykally June 10, 2016 6:18 PM BST
I have a couple of acca's on this. The drift is alarming but the cash out offered is a joke.
Report stroodle June 10, 2016 6:52 PM BST
Since (and including) 2004, only Ukraine in 2012 have won their opening game as tournament host or co-host
Report anxious June 10, 2016 7:09 PM BST
France can get goals but defensively not great , laporte and varane both out , and evra , sagna and koscielny in team, btts for me
Report Ibrahima Sonko June 10, 2016 7:18 PM BST
far point stroodle but the opposition team in that stat were pretty decent or evenly matched.
Report Geesyerdosh June 10, 2016 7:25 PM BST
Romania have no attacking threat to take advantage of a weak French back line but are well organised and very defensive minded.

France to sneak a 1-0 win.
Report Charlton2005 June 10, 2016 7:40 PM BST
Ted Brogan 10 Jun 16 16:24 Joined: 29 Jan 06 | Topic/replies: 1,591 | Blogger: Ted Brogan's blog
Jun 10, 2016 -- 4:16PM, pantsonfire wrote:

Thats over 20% drift on opening price.

No it isn't. It's less than 5%


ted, could you please give us an example of a 20% drift on opening price
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 7:45 PM BST
1.31 = 76.33%
1.78 = 56.33%

i know you didnt ask me but thats the answer
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 7:46 PM BST
assuming a 100% overound
Report Charlton2005 June 10, 2016 7:47 PM BST
so what would 1.31 to 1000 be?
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 7:49 PM BST
76.33% > 0.1%
Report Charlton2005 June 10, 2016 7:51 PM BST
so the odds were 3/10 and now they are 1000/1 and you are calling that a 76% change in the odds?
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 7:58 PM BST
76% change in the implied chance of winning.
Report Charlton2005 June 10, 2016 7:58 PM BST
ted, clacher? any news?
Report Charlton2005 June 10, 2016 7:59 PM BST
the question didnt mention "the implied chance of winning"

it said give an example where the odds change by 20%

in your world, the odds can never double, is that correct?
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 8:10 PM BST
sorry was too busy not caring and watchign the football.


yes, odds can not double.  use whatever language you want though it doesnt bother me
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 8:10 PM BST
well can never increase by 100% but they can double.
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 8:11 PM BST
6/4 is double 4/1, 40% v 20%
Report Charlton2005 June 10, 2016 8:14 PM BST
odds can not double?

you up or down on here long term?
Report Charlton2005 June 10, 2016 8:16 PM BST
clacherholiday2 10 Jun 16 20:10 Joined: 02 Jun 04 | Topic/replies: 6,707 | Blogger: clacherholiday2's blog
well can never increase by 100% but they can double.


Laugh

wish you were rich and i was your accountant...
Report GTFI June 10, 2016 8:25 PM BST
game odds at ko are 1.3,  ie you could win 30p for each £,  if it then swings to 0.6 ie, you can win 60p for each pond,  isnt that a 100% swing?
Report bettinghelp June 10, 2016 8:33 PM BST
How long have you people been betting? Don't you know that an x percentage change in odds and an x percentage change in the probability of the event occurring, whilst directly related, are categorically not the same thing?

Do you really not know the difference?
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 8:35 PM BST
your returns increased 100%, your odds didnt
Report Ibrahima Sonko June 10, 2016 8:36 PM BST
Crazy
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 8:38 PM BST
pantsonfire • June 10, 2016 4:16 PM BST
Thats over 20% drift on opening price.


thats where this started Grin 

i take you guys think 4/1 is 100% increase on 2/1?
Report Charlton2005 June 10, 2016 8:39 PM BST
clacherholiday2 10 Jun 16 20:11 Joined: 02 Jun 04 | Topic/replies: 6,712 | Blogger: clacherholiday2's blog
6/4 is double 4/1, 40% v 20%


for the avoidance of doubt, is the above an example of a 100% change or a 20% change?
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 8:40 PM BST
4/1 is a 20% swing of odds over 6/4
Report Charlton2005 June 10, 2016 8:42 PM BST
but you have stated 6/4 is double 4/1. isnt double = 100%?
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 8:52 PM BST
double isnt 100% no Laugh

ok so educate me in your skewed logic that makes odds of 1.3 to 1.4 a 20% increase.  what would you consider as a 50% increase?
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