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GTFI
30 Nov 15 23:44
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As explained in the 1.5goals thread i will no longer be posting in there.
During the past 4.5 weeks my prog' has made potentially over £1000 on the 2.5 goals market (Using £100 stakes)
With the 1.5 goals market letting down the overall profits i am concentrating on the 2.5 goals market and will try to post the games in advance.

I hope that perhaps one or two of you will follow the thread and hopefully give it a bash yourself,  REMEMBER, only ever bet what you can afford to lose.
Also remember it is an electronic machine that picks the games,  (yes with my input of formulas)  but it does NOT know if it is p1ssing down of half the team is out with flu etc.

Here's hoping to December also returning a further £1000 using the same formulas etc....   
Goodluck anyone following and here's hoping for a Merry Xmas to one and all,  hopefully somewhat richer

Rememeber - ALL profit and loss will be to a level £100 stake to each "Over 2.5 goals" bet.

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By:
GTFI
When: 30 Nov 15 23:46
December - PnL will be monthly....

Bet 1.
01/Dec/15    English  Conf' North    - Brackley Town v Curzon Ashton (Over 2.5 goals obviously is the bet)
By:
TheChaser
When: 30 Nov 15 23:54
ill follow this , over 2.5 is the bet i do daily
By:
TheChaser
When: 01 Dec 15 00:00
30/11/2015 21:37    Placed Bet    Over 2.5 Goals @ 4/6   
30/11/2015 21:36    Placed Bet    Over 3.5 Goals @ 4/7   
30/11/2015 21:32    Closed Bet    Over 2.5 Goals @ 4/5   
30/11/2015 21:32    Closed Bet    Over 2.5 Goals @ 4/5   
30/11/2015 20:05    Placed Bet    Over 2.5 Goals @ 4/5   
30/11/2015 19:54    Placed Bet    Over 2.5 Goals @ Evs   
30/11/2015 19:51    Closed Bet    Over 1.5 Goals @ 4/6   
30/11/2015 19:38    Placed Bet    Over 1.5 Goals @ 4/6   
30/11/2015 19:20    Closed Bet    Over 3.5 Goals @ 11/8   
30/11/2015 18:39    Placed Bet    Over 2.5 Goals @ Evs   
30/11/2015 18:39    Placed Bet    Over 3.5 Goals @ 11/8   
30/11/2015 18:06    Placed Bet    Over 2.5 Goals @ 10/11   
30/11/2015 17:48    Closed Bet    Over 2.5 Goals @ 10/11   
30/11/2015 17:35    Closed Bet    Over 2.5 Goals @ 11/8   
30/11/2015 17:35    Closed Bet    Over 2.5 Goals @ 6/5   
30/11/2015 17:35    Closed Bet    Over 2.5 Goals @ 8/13   




after all these today on spread ex im bang on even money Laugh

not many decent games so i tried to just picked a load ended up a few quid up and stuck profit on the a few games that lost

im normally more selective , but just done a few quid on each for interest on todays game
By:
GTFI
When: 01 Dec 15 00:03
lol, that's why you are called "the chaser"?   I must be honest,  i actually love the overs AND unders markets,  especially when they seem overpriced.
By:
CASHINVEST
When: 01 Dec 15 00:05
GOOD LUCK


FOLLOWING
By:
GTFI
When: 01 Dec 15 00:06
cheers bud.   and ditto
By:
kenilworth
When: 01 Dec 15 08:53
only ever bet what you can afford to lose.
INCORRECT!!

Only bet when the odds are in your favour!
By:
TheBetfairBuddy
When: 01 Dec 15 09:08
LOL!
Ken....ExcitedExcitedExcited

GL will follow with interest
By:
Tony Broke
When: 01 Dec 15 09:10
hope they cont' to do well, gtfi   t c
By:
Tony Broke
When: 01 Dec 15 09:12
i have started well on my own mini 'system,' concentrating partly on the amount of shots on target in games and dependent on times, specially when a fav has gone a goal down but are having nearly all of the shots on target....seems okay so far tho im aware it wont always work...
By:
TheChaser
When: 01 Dec 15 12:58
Citeh-Hull overs but only 1/2 ish
By:
GTFI
When: 01 Dec 15 17:55

Dec 1, 2015 -- 8:53AM, kenilworth wrote:


only ever bet what you can afford to lose. INCORRECT!!Only bet when the odds are in your favour!


I realise quite a few bet on "if the odds are in your favour"  but in my opinion,  a win is a win regardless of the odds,  if you expect it to win,  then £50 for overs is better than wanting the odds to be in your favour and not taking the bet.  At the end of the day,  if you don't expect it to win,  you shouldn't be betting on it,  regardless of the odds
We are all entitled to OUR opinion,  so i respect yours and wish you and the rest of the guys well regardless of what,  or how,  you choose your games and odds.

By:
everyone's a winner
When: 01 Dec 15 19:25
interesting, i always thought your >1.5 was more reliable than the >2.5 but i've never really followed it that closely. good to see someone posting some helpful info though
By:
Steamship
When: 01 Dec 15 19:40
Just gone overs on the Middlesboro Everton game at 2.14
By:
gotitwrong-
When: 01 Dec 15 19:54
'I realise quite a few bet on "if the odds are in your favour"  but in my opinion,  a win is a win regardless of the odds,  if you expect it to win,  then £50 for overs is better than wanting the odds to be in your favour and not taking the bet.  At the end of the day,  if you don't expect it to win,  you shouldn't be betting on it,  regardless of the odds
We are all entitled to OUR opinion,  so i respect yours and wish you and the rest of the guys well regardless of what,  or how,  you choose your games and odds.'

GTFI , that is daft.
Look at your over 1.5 goals thread , lots of winning bets , but it showed a loss , because the odds weren't big enough to cover the losses.
By:
GTFI
When: 01 Dec 15 19:57
gl steam

agree giw... if waiting for odds of 1.3+ perhaps the results would have been more favourable...    but also quick goal games would have been lost
By:
GTFI
When: 01 Dec 15 20:00
maidstone was a 1.5 gls tonight....     so there you go if you want it bud,,   still 0-0 and odds rising
By:
Steamship
When: 01 Dec 15 20:58
Laid at 1.4 for a profit either way.
By:
GTFI
When: 01 Dec 15 21:03
no such luck with mine mate,  all or nothing Wink    and wp btw
By:
kenilworth
When: 01 Dec 15 21:05
GTFI , that is daft.
Look at your over 1.5 goals thread , lots of winning bets , but it showed a loss , because the odds weren't big enough to cover the losses.
I rest my case.
By:
Steamship
When: 01 Dec 15 21:06
Thank you GTFI
By:
everyone's a winner
When: 01 Dec 15 21:08
also the more people blindly following you, the more you are collectively driving the price down, making it constantly more difficult to make the profit.. so in the end it has to always be about the price. the probability of the event happening, compared to the odds
By:
GTFI
When: 01 Dec 15 21:09

Dec 1, 2015 -- 9:08PM, everyone's a winner wrote:


also the more people blindly following you, the more you are collectively driving the price down, making it constantly more difficult to make the profit.. so in the end it has to always be about the price. the probability of the event happening, compared to the odds


agree, but also i get the odds before posting in most cases mate

By:
GTFI
When: 01 Dec 15 21:12
3-0,  but disallowed,  still 2-0  :(
By:
everyone's a winner
When: 01 Dec 15 21:14
yes, didn't mean to sound negative, your approach is more scientific than mine and i applaud you for trying to help others but it becomes increasingly more difficult to do. especially in the markets where there isn't huge liquidty
By:
GTFI
When: 01 Dec 15 21:18
I agree mate,  but the leagues i have in the prog are MAINLY the top 2 div's of each top country   
italy - spain - england - germany etc...  and as 2.5goals is a popular market,  usually plenty of liquid,   only on quiet nights like tonight are the lower leagues needed
By:
kenilworth
When: 01 Dec 15 21:18
GTFI affecting the market?
Don't be silly.
By:
GTFI
When: 01 Dec 15 21:22

Dec 1, 2015 -- 9:18PM, kenilworth wrote:


GTFI affecting the market?Don't be silly.


Snooooooze time  ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

By:
everyone's a winner
When: 01 Dec 15 21:25
some of those over 1.5 goals markets in brazil or elsewhere didn't have much liquidity when i looked and i know i blindly lumped on one in the summer when there wasn't much else on. luckily it won Laugh
By:
bigmo
When: 01 Dec 15 21:30
Look at your over 1.5 goals thread , lots of winning bets , but it showed a loss , because the odds weren't big enough to cover the losses.

Doesn't mean the odds were not value just too low.
By:
dlarssonf
When: 01 Dec 15 21:34
Just too low???   He lost money because he wasn't getting value , it's that simple.  Value can be found at 1.01 or 100/1 , nothing to do with low/high odds.

You may get lucky for a while but if you are not getting value over the long term you are doomed.
By:
everyone's a winner
When: 01 Dec 15 21:36
ok, last post from me tonight, as we are all at risk of repeating ourselves and becoming boring  but it adds up to needing to factor a minimum price into the model, so a rating of 3.5 needs a minimum price of x, a rating of 3.75 needs a price of y etc. i'm probably not telling you anything you haven't thought of already but it's my 2p worth. gl and gn
By:
bigmo
When: 01 Dec 15 21:37
I don't agree with that. If GTFI does as ken always wants and works out the percentage chance of a game ending in overs and then getting odds above his percentage estimate he will still lose if his judgement is carp.
By:
GTFI
When: 01 Dec 15 21:37
not the best of starts,  but plenty more to come that WILL put it into profits over the month.
By:
GTFI
When: 01 Dec 15 21:38
the thing is,  last month made over 1k....    did i look at the odds?  no i took whatever was on offer...  so why change a winning model,  end of in my opinion.  dont fix what isn't broke Wink
By:
kenilworth
When: 01 Dec 15 21:39
Dec 1, 2015 -- 9:18PM, kenilworth wrote:


GTFI affecting the market?Don't be silly.


Snooooooze time  ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Do you think you do?
By:
dlarssonf
When: 01 Dec 15 21:40
bigmo    01 Dec 15 21:37 
I don't agree with that. If GTFI does as ken always wants and works out the percentage chance of a game ending in overs and then getting odds above his percentage estimate he will still lose if his judgement is carp.


It's not a case of agreeing with anyone.  If you are backing odds that are poor value you can't win long term. It's nothing to do with how low odds are.
By:
GTFI
When: 01 Dec 15 21:41
Affect the market?   no,  i don't..  would take 12 months of constant winners before that was even a remote probability
By:
GTFI
When: 01 Dec 15 21:42

Dec 1, 2015 -- 9:40PM, dlarssonf wrote:


bigmo    01 Dec 15 21:37  I don't agree with that. If GTFI does as ken always wants and works out the percentage chance of a game ending in overs and then getting odds above his percentage estimate he will still lose if his judgement is carp.It's not a case of agreeing with anyone.  If you are backing odds that are poor value you can't win long term. It's nothing to do with how low odds are.


I cannot agree with that either,  if you hit a certain percantage of winners,  then as long as your winning odds cover any losses,   "value" doesn't come in to it.

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