If I was an Everton fan I'd think the same but as I said earlier in the thread the urge to stand up against a mega rich club has actually blinded Everton to the fact that this was a ridiculously high sum of money being offered. He could have a great season but realistically how far would that take Everton? The only things that would make a huge financial difference were if his performances helped you into the CL or alternatively helped you to avoid relegation, both of which are unlikely. Anything else and you're gambling on him not having a poor season and wiping 10 million off his price. The potential reward just isn't worth the gamble in my view. An under pressure Kenwright obviously thought different but I'm not convinced this is the best result for Everton.

You just seem to be so badly run it's untrue. I read somewhere today that Norwich earn more commercially than you do and I can't say I'm surprised. Our interest has been well known for weeks now so there's been plenty of time to line up replacements whilst having a figure in mind that would do the deal. There's been a situation here that Everton could have worked to their advantage and really improved the squad. When 26 million was rejected I was all for us walking away . When we didn't it must have been clear to Everton that 35 million was likely to be on the table at some point.

Anyway I haven't forgiven you lot for getting Nevin at a steal of a price so I have no sympathy with you lot having become the hunted these days

if stones is 40m, varane is 100m+. Varane would do well at CM, FB or even a winger imo. Beast of an athlete. Real won't sell him imo and i think jose knows that. he signed him for real (for only 10m euros!)
Kenwright likes to sell and hang onto the money. That's the most surprising thing. still may go i suppose

What it translates to is exactly what was said. De Bruyne and Lukaku weren't prepared to wait their chance and fight to become first choice. Lukaku felt he should have been first choice when he was clearly not good enough for that. Schurrle wanted to stay but Jose was never that fussed on him.

Stones would have played quite a few games for us precisely for the reason you couldn't grasp as to why JT was substituted the other week. We are looking to defend higher up the pitch at times which is where he comes in. He'd have improved a hell of a lot more playing CL and in a team where the pressure is on to get a result in just about every game.

At various times this close season the sharks have circled around Stones, Coleman, Lukaku and McCarthy.  So far Everton have resisted all overtures.  Quietly impressed with their resolve.

Pellegrini isn't that type of manager

Sorry marcee but you are painfully naive if you think Terry being subbed was tactical.
Chelsea have a habit of holding back player's careers and Stones would have been another.

Nope SH you're painfully naive if you believe that everything that Mourinho does is a coded message of some sort. Guess he ordered him to get sent off last week as well to send a further message.

Don't remember saying everything, do remember saying one thing, which is a big difference.
I think Stones staying at Everton has pretty much booked his seat on the Eurostar to Paris, which is good for England as I rate him as a first choice player.

The Everton fans I know desperately didn't want him to go. And mostly because they don't trust Martinez with the money. Marcce. I agree with what you are saying about it being a good price, but only if you buy decent replacements. I think it's a well done to Bill.

Stones only turned 21 in May
He makes mistakes has a lot to learn, but he is genuine quality (much like Terry, Adams, Ferdinand, made mistakes when they were starting out, at 20/21)

On the one hand 35mil would be daft given he is not a complete player yet
On the other hand, if you get 10 years quality out of him, and he progresses as expected, then even 50mil would be relatively cheap retrospectively (how much was Rio worth to united? far more than the 30 they paid, when he was 24 and still had a bit to learn)

If Chelsea had bid 35-40mil back in June, I think they would have got him, but they slow played it, so as to not pay too much, and it back fired.
Look at City with Sterling, no way on earth is he a 50mil player at the moment, but they paid it, to get him now because in the next 2-3 years he could progress into that bracket and beyond and really over paying by 15mil is nothing to City.

Stones might take a downturn in form, he might not progress, he might go on to be the next Titus Bramble
But from what I have seen, he wont.
I suspect he'll have a few dodgy moments and some bad mistakes replayed over and over on Sun Tv, but fundamentally he'll progress into one of the countries finest defenders.
And perhaps next summer, or the summer after, he'll move, and it will be for more than 35mil.

He might be disappointed but at the same time, if he really 100% wanted to leave, he'd have put in a transfer request much earlier, as soon as chelsea bid.
Now though, it was late, and when United want 12+ for someone like Evans as a replacement (1yr left on his deal?) then you'll over pay for poor replacements at this stage, so makes sense not to sell.

Plus, its always nice to not give in to the cash rich teams once in a while.
(watch us sell him 1hr before deadline now...)

It's more likely that 'The board' made him put in the request, with the sole intention of refusing it (or no request was ever made) to try and turn attention away from their dodgy loan repayments and other unfathomable dealings...

Ball is in Everton's court as soon as Stones handed in a transfer request, financially speaking, as soon as a player hands in a request to leave they automatically would lose any signing on fee which in Stones case would mean not having his contract paid up til 2020. Players rarely hand one in.

with all this going on and with evertons back 4 all over the place a spurs winlooks a good bet

Do the people in this thread going on about the £35m being silly money understand that Luiz went for £50m, Chambers £16m, Lovren £20m, Andy Carrol £36m FFS, Lallana £20m, Markovic £20m, P jONES £16M ETC ETC ETC

The tv money in football has trebled...ADD TO THAT FFP AND Homegrown restrictions - £35m is yesteryears £10m ... £35m doesnt get you a loaf of bread these days

And for thoes saying he will be worth £10m less next year ... thats the difference between finishing 14th and 8th ... Swapping Stones for some unproven kid or some unknown £5m south American defender will cost us league positions alone

Speaking of crap of south American defenders.. Coates was £7 BLOODY MILLION TO LIVERPOOL... Thats £15m in todays terms

So Zouma, a young foreign unknown player playing in the French league cost £12m... you are proving my point for me...

You've listed a load of players, some of whom are attackers so not comparable anyway that were involved in transfers to and from English clubs so the amount of money available in the English game applies to most of them as well with the other example being a player that went to PSG so that applies equally as well.  Chambers is another one that is comparable to Stones as a young English defender with potential and look at the huge difference in valuations.

Realistically a figure in the mid 20 millions for Stones was pushing it even taking into account the homegrown aspects. A figure in the mid 30 millions was insane. To put it into some kind of perspective, had it been 38 million only one defender in the history of the game has gone for more. If it had been 35 million only 2 defenders will have gone for more. This for a non international who has played about 50 games in top flight football and never played in the CL.

I'll say it again it was silly money.

i do not give a shyte

Marcce did you miss stones 6 England caps?

The number of people that have won six England caps is so massive that Dion Dublin is still waiting for his..

There are not that many qualified stitchers in the Country..