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or backing over 0.5 goals,seems so easy,has anyone had success or does it always end in tears. I mean if you start with a tenner,and get one correct per day at odds of 10,you will have over 50 bags of sand after 3 months,how easy is that.

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By:
Kean
When: 05 Aug 15 11:22
haha, easy to say hard to achieve
By:
Golden Fleece
When: 05 Aug 15 11:56
I guess so,but it would be nice to hear some anecdotes on this,I am sure many have tried.
By:
Kean
When: 05 Aug 15 12:12
it is possible to be done, but greed is the biggest enemy, if u have discipline and a little luck and stick to 1 game a day @1.10 you might do it, my longest run was 145, but i saw someone do it for 198 games in a row
By:
DIE LINKE
When: 05 Aug 15 12:21
0-0 layers too busy snorting coke from the anuses of lingerie models on secluded beaches in the Bahamas to respond to this.
By:
SIR_Bond
When: 05 Aug 15 12:22
0-0 layers

Print money for fun
By:
Golden Fleece
When: 05 Aug 15 13:46
Wow Bahamas sounds good to me Laugh

Kean your run of 145 what did you build it up to,and did you lose it all,or had you taken some out.

I started for fun on the first day of August,have currently got 5 on the bounce and my tenner is now 16.30,however I am not strictly laying 0-0 but am varying it,but to same odds.

Fifty K will come in handy for Christmas Happy.
By:
sonofshinner
When: 05 Aug 15 13:57
ive had a bit success lately lay the fav 1-0..hope for early goal, either bet up...or next goal wins.
By:
sideshowbob
When: 05 Aug 15 16:20
not a bad idea that. last season only 10% of premier league games ended 1-0 or 0-1 (20% if you add
em together) so the average odds of anybody winning 1-0 should be about 10.0

i had thought about laying everybody to win 1-0 then backing back whoever scored first, but the high odds of underdogs probably makes that a long term losing strategy. maybe just lay the 1-0 for strong favourites and not the other team. even if its 1-0 at half time, the odds wouldnt be that short cos theyd be expected to score again. 0-0 at half time would be a bit of a disaster though.
By:
Westender
When: 05 Aug 15 16:30
Uruguay 0-0 Jordan - odds 110 to lay - finished 0-0.
Cambridge Utd 0-0 Man Utd - odds to lay 25 - finished 0-0.
Liverpool v Bolton 0-0 - odds to lay 22 - finished 0-0.

Those three examples of horrors above and the countless 0-0 matches must have hit people hard at high odds, however, be assured that everybody wins on Betfair. Laugh

The biggest winner on Betfair with 5% to 7% commission on winnings and 20% to 60% premium charges is err - BETFAIR PLC. Cry
By:
pajjo
When: 05 Aug 15 17:26
This is the only bet i do. back over 0.5 at 1.10

Not very successful. have had some good runs but they all end in tears

It's snakes and ladders

Basically, i start on €50 and 110 games later (10 games a week for 11 weeks) and i would have €1,091,000 approx.

Sounds easy, should be easy and can be easy - it's down to patience..

BTW, @Westender, i got burnt on all 3 of those games you mentioned above...

But all were avoidable. There is no rush... best way to do it is avoid cup games or meaningless games and 2nd legs if team is 5-0 up from first leg (Uruguay vs Jordan)
By:
ALIEN SEX FIEND
When: 05 Aug 15 17:31
Starting the season trying this today. Looking for safe ones. First Celtic game.

Sorry should say backing over 0.5, hope for steady build up .GL all.
By:
Westender
When: 05 Aug 15 17:32
Before long you end up avoiding every game mate.

This bet only works when you are very selective.

The 0-0 hits every team including Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and even Glasgow Celtic playing against pub teams.
By:
pajjo
When: 05 Aug 15 17:35
Christmas time last season was a nightmare for 0-0s.

Celtic vs whipping boys Ross County at Celtic Park was 0-0

Many more around Europe.

Try do good teams when at home... Like i would avoid Stoke vs Chelsea or Sevilla vs Barcelona but would do Chelsea vs Stoke and Barcelona vs Sevilla.

I would avoid the Celtic game tonight also as they are away and have their lead.  That's not to say it will end 0-0, it is just an avoidable game.
By:
desperatemunter
When: 05 Aug 15 17:55
i layed 0-0 in the WC final between Holland and Spain in 2010.  Did it for all my bank, which was plenty.    The very words 'laying the 0-0' now brings me out in hives.Sad.
By:
desperatemunter
When: 05 Aug 15 17:57
i mean really, two $hit-hot teams like they were then - it never occurred to me for even a second that they would not score.
By:
Westender
When: 05 Aug 15 17:57
Good teams at home like Barca are now 80/1 to lay 0-0 most matches

Laying 0-0 in the Celtic game is only 8.2 at KO

The high odds do not represent the level of risk in many matches. (eg Celtic tonight at 8.2 just as likely than Hull v Man Utd at 17)
By:
tashkent terror
When: 05 Aug 15 18:12
decided to try the opposite for this season...i will be backing "no goalscorer" in the FGS markets for live games on sky.

with average odds of 12 to 14 i reckon will need one to come in every 10 games or so to make a few bags of sand...seems easy enuff...i even get a win if it's 1-0 with an OGGY WinkWink
By:
pajjo
When: 05 Aug 15 18:14
Barcelona at home... you need to wait about 35 mins before you get matched. Sometimes the odds tells you what you need to know. Like if back 0.5 is starting at greater than 1.10 then i try stay clear, with some exceptions like the colombian league...

You need to know your leagues.

Chile is best in South America for goals. Games start at 1.04 or 1.05 though.

Ricer plate and argentian games start around 1.12 or higher. Brazil league 1 & 2 starts about 1.11 too. Botafogo top of brazil div 2 and drew 2 of their last 3 games 0-0 i think...

In Europe, france is rubbish for goals with odd exception, dutch league usually great for goals. I stay away from germany too with obvious exceptions
By:
lurka
When: 05 Aug 15 19:17
there were threads on this before, you just need to be careful and disciplined as a loss will hit hard and two or three can wipe you out. But consider this: why do it at or before kick off? how many games have a goal in the first 5, 10, 15? Try to work out a smart entry point after kick-off at a better price. There is no way that kick-off is the smartest time for every game
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 05 Aug 15 19:23

Aug 5, 2015 -- 5:35PM, pajjo wrote:


Christmas time last season was a nightmare for 0-0s.Celtic vs whipping boys Ross County at Celtic Park was 0-0Many more around Europe.Try do good teams when at home... Like i would avoid Stoke vs Chelsea or Sevilla vs Barcelona but would do Chelsea vs Stoke and Barcelona vs Sevilla.I would avoid the Celtic game tonight also as they are away and have their lead.  That's not to say it will end 0-0, it is just an avoidable game.


>Had to end 0-0 after this post.

By:
Platini
When: 05 Aug 15 19:26
madness laying 0-0 in a Qarabag home game Crazy
By:
pajjo
When: 05 Aug 15 20:18

Aug 5, 2015 -- 7:17PM, lurka wrote:


there were threads on this before, you just need to be careful and disciplined as a loss will hit hard and two or three can wipe you out. But consider this: why do it at or before kick off? how many games have a goal in the first 5, 10, 15? Try to work out a smart entry point after kick-off at a better price. There is no way that kick-off is the smartest time for every game


Absolutely. I am just giving a guide to what leagues start with low odds and ehat start with high. I usually do 1.10 so sometimes i am waiting 5 mins to match and sometimes i am waiting 30-40 mins before it gets to 1.10...

Celtic are only worth doing, at home, in Scotland. They are defo not a certainty to either score or win away to a tricky european team.

By:
Charlie
When: 05 Aug 15 20:40
This has been done numerous times and always ends in tears. Why do you think the odds on 0-0 are wrong?
By:
Westender
When: 05 Aug 15 21:13
There is no logic to the odds at times.

I stated above that Celtic tonight to lay 0-0 was 8.4 and Hull v Man Utd was 17.

Both were absolute stinkers but at least Celtic had 2 shots at goal compared to zero chances in the Man Utd game.

You wait until 35 mins to lay 0-0 in Barca games but the damage is usually done by then.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 05 Aug 15 21:20
discipline is most important !  I am starting a similar challenge type thing mixing horses place only and 0.5 goals when the footy season starts this weekend  and a maximum of 2 bets a day , suggest clearing account and leaving only your starting stake in i.e £20-£50 -£100 or whatever comfortable with ! discipline is key as with the odds so low the temptation is to try to get the bank up too quickly and chase on bets that have not been well thought out ! also suggest that when bank gets to a certain point for instance £20 start when or if hitting say £200 then withdrawing £50 and continue with the £150 ,that will ease the burden a bit and whatever way it goes after the withdrawell then a profit is assured  ,also when stakes get high the pressure increases and mistakes are likely.
also temptation when in profit to chase winnings needs to be tempered ! it wont be easy but I am giving it a pop not setting any targets yet and will see how it goes ,good luck any who participate and input is appreciated !
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 05 Aug 15 21:26
remember a poster  hit 5 grand  starting out with £50 if memory serves if it was genuine and not pretend money, sounded genuine to me and posted up his bets beforehand think it was 0.5 goals ,a great  thread  to follow a few years back ,anyone bump it ?tia
By:
lurka
When: 05 Aug 15 21:28
i wait for better prices in-play, never take SP. But most of my bets are above evens in the last 15 mins. Can't understand why people back overs at SP, must be at least 7/10 times it goes higher at some point.And that's just the winners, obv all losers will go higher too.

Johor Darul Taksim from Malaysia are rarely on bf but were today. I have never seen a team with more goals in their games on 45 mins or 45+ inj time. Likewise Melgar in Peru in 81st minute. with Darul it must be fixed, uncanny otherwise
By:
Westender
When: 05 Aug 15 22:21
Layers of 0-0 in Bayern v Real are still washing their pants LaughLaugh
By:
SIR_Bond
When: 05 Aug 15 22:24
ALIEN SEX FIEND 05 Aug 15 17:31 Joined: 27 Feb 10 | Topic/replies: 2,513 | Blogger: ALIEN SEX FIEND's blog
Starting the season trying this today. Looking for safe ones. First Celtic game.

Sorry should say backing over 0.5, hope for steady build up .GL all.

LaughGreat start

Game over first bet

what a joke
By:
sideshowbob
When: 06 Aug 15 00:55
no such thing as a safe 0-0 lay. everybody draws 0-0 sometimes, pretty much at random.

like any betting, its all about the price to the probability of something happening.
the dangerous thing about laying 0-0 is you can have incredible runs of wins. then you get cocky and double or triple your stakes and hit 4 0-0s on the trot and get wiped out.
By:
Golden Fleece
When: 06 Aug 15 10:32
6/6 For me now,I laid 0-0 in Ba v Nadi after 25 minutes actually matched at 8.8.I am looking at possibly doing two games if odds are much bigger than 10 in certain games,to keep up to speed,but we shall see.

Discipline is the biggest problem I am now finished for the day and its not even time for elevenses yet.

I think it is a mistake to rigidly stick to 0-0,yesterday for example cska were 2-0 down early doors in the champions league qualifier and 4-2 down on aggregate against an inferior opposition,it offered an opportunity,I was finished at that stage but it was an opportunity,whereas celtic the 0-0 was always a realistic outcome,as celtic did not need to score,and quarabang were not able to.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 06 Aug 15 12:01
well done gf
By:
pajjo
When: 06 Aug 15 13:37
Another thing to note is not always go with the obvious teams you know....

Like yesterday for example... i did the following

Club Brugges vs Panathinaikos
Shakhtar vs Fenerbahce
Breidablik vs Keflavik
Atletico Nacional vs Pasto

today i did
Court Young Lions vs Albirex in Singapore

But yesterday i avoided obvious games that people might pick like

Karabaq vs Celtic
Bayern vs Real Madrid
Chelsea vs Fiorentina

I know 2/3 above came in but any of those could have been 0-0

I use flashscore app for all of my games.... all leagues available and head to head and current form and lineups essential before choosing your game
By:
pajjo
When: 06 Aug 15 13:41
I start on €50. Here is a rough guide of how many games it will take to get to a million, depending on commission.

Best thing to do is not look at is as money. Like don't think that you only made €4 from your first game.

Think of plan like 10 games a week for 11 weeks (my plan) and the money sorts itself out.

50.00
54.75
59.96
65.66
71.90
78.74
86.23
94.43
103.40
113.24
124.00
135.79
148.70
162.84
178.32
195.28
213.85
234.18
256.45
280.83
307.53
336.77
368.79
403.85
442.25
484.30
530.35
580.77
636.00
696.47
762.69
835.20
914.61
1001.57
1096.80
1201.09
1315.29
1440.34
1577.29
1727.26
1891.49
2071.33
2268.27
2483.94
2720.12
2978.74
3261.96
3572.11
3911.75
4283.68
4690.97
5136.98
5625.41
6160.27
6745.99
7387.40
8089.79
8858.97
9701.28
10623.68
11633.78
12739.92
13951.23
15277.71
16730.32
18321.04
20063.00
21970.59
24059.56
26347.14
28852.23
31595.49
34599.59
37889.32
41491.84
45436.89
49757.02
54487.92
59668.63
65341.93
71554.64
78358.05
85808.34
93966.99
102901.37
112685.24
123399.35
135132.16
147980.53
162050.51
177458.28
194331.01
212808.00
233041.79
255199.40
279463.76
306035.17
335133.00
366997.44
401891.56
440103.41
481948.44
527772.10
577952.67
632904.41
693080.96
758979.10
831142.83
910167.89
996706.66
1091473.53
By:
G1_Jockey_4
When: 06 Aug 15 13:50
backing 0-0s to lay especially when a team like barca are involved.....but you do need to know the opposition well.

picking sides who will either go for it or concede when they park the bus is not a good idea.

so stats are of not much use.
By:
Rob_The_Bantam
When: 06 Aug 15 13:54
When these threads bomb - and they all do - it always amuses me to see people saying that they crashed because they lost discipline, neglecting to mention that it was exactly the same ill discipline that got them their profits to date and their luck simply ran out.

To make money at betting, you need to bet on wrong prices that are sufficiently wrong as to yield a profit over time.  That's it.  Bound to be plenty of losers along the way, so going all in on every bet is an easy way to blow your bank.
By:
pajjo
When: 06 Aug 15 14:01
Yeah it is Rob, but sure if you start with a low enough stake and keep going all in, just accept from the start that you most likely will never see that money again. If you go on a good run, then so be it.....anyone can bank at any stage too. each to their own i guess though.
By:
Westender
When: 06 Aug 15 16:37
5p carrier bag 0 Celtic 0

Celtic fans are happy watching gash and winning Champions League Money - how the mighty have fallen

There was a time when they actually had a top squad, played good football and won the European Cup LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 06 Aug 15 21:12
how you doing on them pajo ? do you bank money at a certain stage ?
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