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06 Jul 14
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Ok i am going to get replies saying you do whatever you have to do to ensure you win and i can accept that but his antics during last nights penalty shoot out where a disgrace. He was going on like a schoolyard bully, i guarantee he would not have gone on that way have it been Zidane stepping up or someone like Duncan Ferguson. Then why the referee allowed him to continue with these antics throughout the whole shootout is a joke, then much better for FIFA to have Holland in the semi finals rather than Costa Rica (Argentina v Costa Rica hardly has the glamour of Argentina v Holland).
His antics left a real sour taste here and i am praying they get what is coming to them, i can't decide whether i would like Argentina to do them or maybe it would hurt them more if the Germans done them in the final, either way i now have an interest in the rest of the comp and it is praying that prick does not get a winners medal.
His antics left a real sour taste here and i am praying they get what is coming to them, i can't decide whether i would like Argentina to do them or maybe it would hurt them more if the Germans done them in the final, either way i now have an interest in the rest of the comp and it is praying that prick does not get a winners medal.
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Clearly it would be worse for the Dutch if the lost to their age old foes Germany. People who think England-Germany is any kind of rivalry have no idea.
Not to mention it would be their 4th World Cup Final defeat  |
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krul iwould give it to zidane, he doesnt care who it is
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i can see you are clearly partial from your pic donny but you're entitled to your opinion
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*impartial*
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Maybe England players should try a bit more antics during a penalty shoot out and we might actually win one.
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im not saying its right, but he has done it before
him and van persie have history |
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Did it to Stevie G too.
Not that it bothered Gerrard of course. |
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wasn't the most edifying behaviour
but thought the actual dutch pen takers were clinically efficient |
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agree with that, thought their pens where excellent
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All three penalty shoot outs so far have been excellent penalty taking. But Dutch right up there, especially given their record in previous shoot outs.
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Classless. Not just Krul, either. Hope the Argies smash them.
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i know they didn't look great last night but with Robben flying around with seemingly boundless reserves of energy & continually posing threats i just have a feeling they're gonna see off messi & his boys & what's more i just can't see germany not beating brazil
so,in summation not only will we have the 1st non S American side win in SA but we will have a european final 2 boot |
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i have the reverse opinion, think it was always going to be brazil arg in final
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Great comparison-Zidane and Duncan Ferguson
psychology won that shoot out,Van Gal by making that substitute,Krul was in the Costa Rican heads the moment he came on the pitch. |
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Nothing to do with psychology - well taken penalties by Holland - less so by Costa Coffee
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of course it was but Man Utd fans will convince themselves it was all to do with Louis Van Gal's decision making
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The hate van gall is getting is something similar to what fergie would get
 i can sense the FEAR setting back in already |
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football, or should I say professional football, as a sport needs to decide whether or not it wants to define and enforce a set of boundaries on acceptable behaviour on the pitch
if not then it risks becoming increasingly ridiculed and alienating viewers So, do you want to allow diving, feigning injury, signalling to refs with the invisible card, intimidation, encroachment, shirt pulling and many others to continue or not? Do these behaviours represent the values the sport wishes to associate itself with? If the answer is 'yes' then carry on but if 'no' then it really is very simple to change the culture Define the boundaries and enforce them with zeal. Players and coaches will soon adjust their behaviour once they start get red cards and extended bans. They do not tolerate this conduct in rugby, NFL, hockey and all manner of other sports so why is there so much resistance to cleaning up football? |
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i totally agree.
sadly football has become in my opinion a masterclass in cheating techniques,embued by a hopelessly outdated officiating structure. if you like no different from politics-ill from the chore outwards. |
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Mick Quinn summed it up perfectly, although he is too thick to realise the implications, this morning when he said:
"professional players will push the limits as far as they will go in order to win" that is perfectly fair, take every advantage you can therefore, it is the limits that are wrong, change what they are and players will only go as far as the new limit as Quinn says |
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unfortunately,altho' laudable sentiments echoed by many,just can't ever see it happening in reality
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agreed, i thought it was embarrassing and cringeworthy. i am sure many dutch fans were embarrassed by his behaviour. this is the world cup, the whole world is watching, show some class for goodness sake.
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sort of takes the gloss off van gaals tactical change for me, originally it looks like Kruls coming on as the better penalty saver but maybe it was because he's better at the sledging, of course plenty will applaud that like they did the bullying tactics against spain 4 years ago when they knew howard webb was weak, but it wont get the neutrals support
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Teams who care about pleasing the neutral very rarely win, imo.
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changing the rules and therefore the behaviour of competitors is not unprecedented
as I've said before, in recent years the International Judo Federation have implemented a whole raft of rule changes in response to various things competitors were doing some for safety, some for fairness, some for the benefit of spectators, some for more technical reasons and if you compare videos from even 2011 to today (there is a Grand Prix on today) you can see the players have changed their behaviour, they have had to because if not they would be getting DQ every match nothing stopping football doing the same, if it wants, and getting the sport it wants |
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Good points judorick. I thought Krul was totally out of order and expected the referee to do something. It is one thing trying to put the penalty taker off by shouting and pointing while on the line but not to walk up to the spot and do it. If I was the taker and Krul did that to me I would have waited until he walked back to his line and then followed him and done something similar at close quarters.
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brazil happy to kick with the best of them
their spin machine has been better than most theres no plaice for sledging and gamesmanship in football but the refs and fifa seem to encourage it |
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should have been a yellow card for unsporting conduct the first time he did it (preferably awarded after the penalty was taken so as not to increase the pressure on the taker) and another one the second.
of course the scope for such behaviour could be eliminated if the refs blew as soon as the ball is placed and gave a retake if the 'keeper wasn't on his line when the penalty was taken. judorick makes some very good points imo. |
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the john terry anton ferdinand stuff showed what went on
that the fa was only interested in racism and not abuse/gamesmanship shows that its ok for sledging as part of the game |
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the majority of football supporters want success for their team & do not care how its achieved - all the rhetoric about wanting fair play is merely that as laudable as it might be as an objective
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Good phishing by the Irish fella
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but rugby, hockey NFL, martial arts etc fans do care
what does it say about football fans that they accept disgraceful behaviour from players? |
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I will be the first to lmao when the Argies knock their backdoors in
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ali was master of all this gamesmanship and was praised for it
the aussie cricketers were praised for it surely rugby players enjoy a bit of sledging too ? |
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Imagine what Zidane would have done to him
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see every team has its c***s sol
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Typical one eyed football fans who see nothing wrong with it if it's their keeper doing it,
But when it goes against them its an absolute disgrace! Behave ffs it's part of the game. |
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You are right Cheltenham, unsporting behavior is now the norm
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