Mar 24, 2014 -- 12:55AM, geordie1956 wrote:

There is one reason why neither Maradona or Messi can be considered the best - Pele

wonder how pele would fit into strict tactical european game.usually most brazilian flashy players who play up front cant cope with it on regular basics ,Argies are usually tactically aware and fit into euro game and mentality easily,you had ronaldo ronaldinho rivaldo romario kaka and maybe robinho neymar  at the sort of similar shelf as messi recently ,of those maybe apart of kaka or rivaldo rest were on the top only due their natural brilliance when kept top form (but reasonably short period of time against their pure talent and ability),but after those got into trouble in their respective careers(for random reasons) found it difficult  to comeback and restore previous level even just reaching mature and best for footballer age .they found it much easier in south america to restore but in much lesser competitive physically and tactically environment. it rise the question of skills their represented outside individual technique like tactical awareness physical strength etc,which is proven to be needed in all around teamwork european football.pele did not even play in this level of football and comparing him to other brazilian super talents pattern of recent times it raise question if he could cope with that trought long footballer  career.maybe he would of course,but we dont really know. messi already had some setback and he comeback strong to his level,most brazilians i mentioned couldnt. ronaldo was great player for sure ronaldinho as well but messi or crissy career is not build on few years spell of brilliance  but on constant work improvement and desire to get even better and that is what characterise somebody who we could name best (or one of) within echelon of great talents this sport witnessed

and that is the reason messi or crissy should be considered as the best players of those who played football all time. im sure both of those will have very lengthy careers in europe sort of giggs have(not utd fan but he should be considered with greats as well due to his workrate on the top of the talent). can see easily both playing till 38-40 and be successful ,even if facing major injuries in future,those are fully dedicated to achieve more than earn wealth and show up skills,these are winners. shame that ronaldo lima or ronaldinho couldnt find this desire and work rate because were similar talents.maybe pele was as well but fact is those two(and suarez is similar) are proving it actually by their careers and history their creating constantly