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0-0 layers will be seething though but 1.5 goals layers will be thanking their lucky stars.
Goal scored in injury time, when ball being played back to keeper. Goal should have stood, and then they would have had to let Cardiff walk an equaliser in. But ref somehow changed the rules to retake the throw in, and 0-0 stands.
Goal scored in injury time, when ball being played back to keeper. Goal should have stood, and then they would have had to let Cardiff walk an equaliser in. But ref somehow changed the rules to retake the throw in, and 0-0 stands.
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I backed over 1.5 goals at half time in that game. My own fault, I forgot to factor in useless refs. Every week, one of them is the centre of attention.
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is that what happened? Betfair showed it as 1-0.. and i bet o 2.5, so no hope for me there
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Yes he ordered the re-take of the throw in after the ball went in the net. Should have let it stand and then as was said Norwich should have let Cardiff walk the ball into the net. Refs are effing clueless in this country.
Seethe over. |
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Refs making it up as they go along
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Is that the rule, or accepted sportsmanship?
I don't know the answer, by the way. |
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If the ref is trying to be fair, well done to him. But if the same happened next week, the ref may let the goal stand. You just don't know what they're going to do.
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Letting the other team walk on in is not officially in the rules, but if a team scores when they were trying to/should have been giving the ball back to the opposition keeper it is accepted practice to let the other team walk one in at the other end.
When it doesn't happen games can be ordered to be replayed. |
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There is no rule stating the ball must be returned, to disallow a goal at this level for that just highlights how poor the refs are, they clearly don't know the rules...
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I think it's better to disallow it then.
Why should each team benefit from a goal scored? |
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Think you're missing the point Solano. It's a goal.
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Had a 8 team Acca on both teams to score
Guess which match let me down Ref's can't just make up the rules as they go on! |
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Oh.
I thought your point was that Norwich would have had to allow Cardiff to walk in an equaliser? |
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anyone have a clip of the goal
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I was at a Newcastle v Everton game many years ago and there was a bounce up on the half way line - Everton kicked it back to the Newcastle keeper who let it bounce and it was bouncing over his head into the net so the keeper pushed it over the bar - Graham Poll ordered the bounce up to be re-taken
It will be interesting to see what Poll has to say about it |
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Not seen it but sounds like the ref is guilty of applying common sense.
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It's not common sense to disallow the goal, it makes him look incompetent, the refs are there to enforce the rules not make silly decisions, common sense would have been applied if Norwich allowed Cardiff to equalize after scoring a controversial/unsportsman like goal...
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But if it IS unsportsmanlike conduct, then is it not within the rules? That's what I'm asking/saying/putting forward.
Ref may be within the laws of the game. |
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So it should have been one nil to Norwich then?
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Yep
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It was 1-0. But the goal was from them giving the ball back. So they should have let Cardiff make it 1-1. Instead the ref takes it upon himself to change it back to 0-0 instead.
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Who says they should have?
& what makes you so certain they would have? |
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Hughton admitted in his post-match interview he would have had a difficult dilemma if the goal had been allowed but was prepared to reserve judgement until he had spoken to the officials and viewed footage of the incident.
“The ball was played back to Leroy who gave it to them. I don’t know if the pace of the ball took it past the keeper or not,” he said. “What I have heard without speaking to the referee is that he has said he hadn’t whistled for play to go ahead. I didn’t realise you had to do that from a throw-in. Having said that, it is not a way you would want to win a game. We should have won it by taking some of the chances we had. If the referee had allowed it then of course there would have been a major debate. It would have left a big question mark if he hadn’t brought it back. As I say, I don’t know if the keeper left it on purpose or the pace beat him. I would have to see it back. I know it’s a contentious one and it wouldn’t have left a nice feeling at that moment and as a manager you would have a decision to make.” Correct Chris!!!  @ the ref , keep digging son... |
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End of the day ref should be gearing decisions towards a fair result in the match, not the betting of addicts on a football forum
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Is the correct answer, JC.
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Totally agree , as long as the decisions are being made within the rules he is allowed to apply. This has nothing to do with punting but it is the second weekend in a row where the refs have demonstrated that they are not fluent with the rules of the game....
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Maybe the rule is incorrect then?
My earlier point remains - in a three way tie for 18th with Norwich / Cardiff, those 'goals' could be the difference between Premier League status and £50m or so. Much fairer to disallow the original goal, IMO, but of course the rule makers will need to decide on that. |
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But he has already made an incorrect decision to disallow the Norwich goal, using your example if Norwich get relegated by a point then this ref's unwillingness to apply the rules of the game has cost them 50 mill..
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The ref knows he has made the 'correct' decision based on fairness/morals , but the incorrect decision based on the rules of the game, hence his poor post match excuse to Hughton , which funnily enough makes him appear to know even less about the rules of the game
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they've 30+ games left to make up for it and they both know they're only getting a 0-0. If they go down it's got little to do with this game and a lot more to do with the other 37 matches
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As Hughton (who is a very honest chap) said, it would have been a very poor way to win a game.
Hence the rule is wrong, imo. |
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what makes no difference at all? they other 37 games will have way more influence than this decision
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Solano what you appear to be missing is the fact the Ref can not just simply make new rules up to please the PC brigade.
He is instructed as an official to follow the rules and in this case it should have been to allow the goal ( the rules don't forget ) and then ask Norwich what they wanted to do which in all probability would have allowed Cardiff to walk in an equaliser , all this BS over unsportsmanlike conduct makes me laugh , if the goalkeeper makes a complete boolox of a simple pass back to him how is that in any shape or form unsportsmanlike conduct from any Norwich player? |
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What I didn't miss is that Norwich/Cardiff knocked you out of your 8 team Acca, and you'd therefore have preferred the outcome that the OP was indicating had to happen.
There's nothing to confirm Norwich would have allowed Cardiff to walk the ball in to the net - Hughton said he'd have had a difficult dilemma. As I said, the rule is bollix. |
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What rule??
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