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YOMOMMA
13 Oct 13 15:46
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World Cup qualifier played Wednesday 16th, the draw is 8/11 in places.

A point is good enough for both teams to qualify.

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By:
YOMOMMA
When: 13 Oct 13 15:56
It's Tuesday 11.30pm.
By:
themightymac
When: 13 Oct 13 18:35
Corruption in South America - NEVER Whoops
By:
loui
When: 13 Oct 13 19:06
well you know what to do then.
By:
SallyCinnamon
When: 13 Oct 13 20:46
Both teams playing for a draw and avoiding the risks of attacking.  A bit like cashing out. 

I for one will be a draw layer in this game.
By:
Biscuit1979
When: 13 Oct 13 22:47
There's no way Chile won't go for the win. Their manager Sampaoli (who was in charge of UDC when they were lethal a couple of years ago), only knows one way to play, all out attack.
By:
TALKSPORT
When: 14 Oct 13 01:17
PHIX.
By:
henok
When: 14 Oct 13 09:58
this kind of games are the most profitable for tradingWink
By:
TheseGuysareGreat
When: 14 Oct 13 10:09
Ok but what you fail to mention is that uraguay need to beat argentina by more then 3 goals if Ecuador or chile lose. There will be some money to be made on this game for sure.
By:
Mistawoss
When: 14 Oct 13 10:12
so most of you are laying the draw to back once a goal is scored?
By:
TheseGuysareGreat
When: 14 Oct 13 10:31
0-0 is $7.5 ? Draw is $1.80? am I correct?
By:
Biscuit1979
When: 14 Oct 13 10:34
I'm happy to lay those prices all day long.

Chile only know how to attack, Ecuador are useless away.
By:
CJ70
When: 14 Oct 13 11:11
Surely the strategy has to back/trade the draw pre-off as the draw price should come in as the bet turns public. Then hit Ecuador in play? No?
By:
bump1111
When: 14 Oct 13 11:12

Oct 14, 2013 -- 10:34AM, Biscuit1979 wrote:


I'm happy to lay those prices all day long.Chile only know how to attack, Ecuador are useless away.


Theres a world cup place at stake, not sure normal logic applies.

By:
TheseGuysareGreat
When: 14 Oct 13 11:22
This is logic?

If chile lose and Uruaguay beat argentina by more then 3 goals then chile will play Jordan for a spot in the world cup.

Same applies to Ecuador.

It doesn't matter who wins Argentina aren't going to be beaten by 3 goals and Jordan couldn't beat either.
By:
bump1111
When: 14 Oct 13 11:26

Oct 14, 2013 -- 11:22AM, TheseGuysareGreat wrote:


This is logic?If chile lose and Uruaguay beat argentina by more then 3 goals then chile will play Jordan for a spot in the world cup.Same applies to Ecuador.It doesn't matter who wins Argentina aren't going to be beaten by 3 goals and Jordan couldn't beat either.


Then lay the draw and make yourself 1000s.

By:
Biscuit1979
When: 14 Oct 13 11:29
Ecuador's goal difference is 6 better than Uruguay. Even if Chile beat them by a couple, they'd still need a 4 goal Urugay win to be knocked out. Isn't going to happen.

And as Theseguysaregreat says, even if that miracle did happen they'd play Jordan. A side who in qualifying lost 6-0 to Japan, 4-0 to Australia and were also beaten by Iraq and Oman!
By:
bump1111
When: 14 Oct 13 11:39
Thats all true but if you have a chance to guarantee yourself a place at the world cup you take it and forget other results, play offs etc.
By:
tonyagana
When: 14 Oct 13 11:40
I think these draw odds are absolute nonsense. Not a massive lay, but a lay all the same.
By:
Biscuit1979
When: 14 Oct 13 11:41
Exactly, and what better way to guarantee it than by winning your home game against a side who are poor on the road.
By:
bump1111
When: 14 Oct 13 11:43

Oct 14, 2013 -- 11:41AM, Biscuit1979 wrote:


Exactly, and what better way to guarantee it than by winning your home game against a side who are poor on the road.


Same post every time from various people in the end of season Italian threads and they lose every time, we'll see what happens.

By:
Biscuit1979
When: 14 Oct 13 11:50
Comparing this to an Italian league game Laugh
By:
bump1111
When: 14 Oct 13 11:52
I'm not, I'm laughing at your daft logic of ifs, shoulds and "Ohh but Chile attack" as if that means anything in this situation.
By:
TheseGuysareGreat
When: 14 Oct 13 11:53
Bump last year there was 3 serie b games where the draw was odds on and none ended in draws so im not convinced with your theory.
By:
Slicer
When: 14 Oct 13 11:54
Are any of you old enough to remember the Austria v Germany draw????
That was the game that led to the final game of all group matches kicking off at the same time!

Google it if you are interested.
By:
bump1111
When: 14 Oct 13 12:04

Oct 14, 2013 -- 11:53AM, TheseGuysareGreat wrote:


Bump last year there was 3 serie b games where the draw was odds on and none ended in draws so im not convinced with your theory.


They're just people ****g the markets up, usually after a fix the week before so they assume any game between teams near the bottom or top is a fixed draw. Ones like Verona - Empoli where the result completely suits both are the fixed ones and sure as hell the week before the game this place was full of "but Verona can win the league, why go for a draw and settle for second, I'm laying". And they lose, as usual.

Now this one is a bit murkier, like I've no idea of the relationship between Chile and Ecuador, they might detest eachother for all I know and if Argentina were 3 up at half time they could play the second half here completely relaxed but some of the logic in here is daft like "ooh they wont mind playing Jordan" as if they'd voluntarily choose to play a play off instead of having a guaranteed world cup spot.

By:
Biscuit1979
When: 14 Oct 13 12:49
bump1111 14 Oct 13 11:52 
I'm not, I'm laughing at your daft logic of ifs, shoulds and "Ohh but Chile attack" as if that means anything in this situation.




What's daft about knowing the playing style of the Chile manager and expecting that he will send his side out to win the game.

Your logic is, 'a draw will do, so they'll obviously play for a draw'. I'm not sure that's any less daft.
By:
Tony Broke
When: 14 Oct 13 12:57
don't bet until the game has started, then u only need to watch to see if all the players all head towards their own goalmouths and line up along the goaline.then u can back the draw.
By:
Tony Broke
When: 14 Oct 13 12:58
..or if the opposing captains head towards the centre circle bearing expensive gifts such as 11 gold watches and 11 sony vaio laptops
By:
YOMOMMA
When: 14 Oct 13 13:21
If Chile win 3-0, Uruguay would have to beat Argentina by 3+ goals for automatic qualification and that's never going to happen.

I should have done a bit more research before calling it a big fix. The odds are about right. The "value" in the draw has all gone already.

Correct score 0-0 and 1-1 will make for a good trade and under 2.5, 3.5 and 4.5 will be backed.
By:
joe9000
When: 14 Oct 13 13:33
Argentina infamously rolled over for Uruguay in the last game of qualifying for the 2006 finals in order for Uruguay to pip Colombia to the playoff spot so anyone saying that Uruguay can't possibly get a big enough win the next day might just be proved incorrect......
By:
West Coast Eagles
When: 14 Oct 13 14:25
Just saw the highlights of the game, match was 3-3. Did anyone honestly predict Ecuador were to come back and tie it 3-3, after being down 0-3? Any idea on what the Draw odds were then?
By:
Stringer
When: 14 Oct 13 15:29
Both teams will just knock the ball about at the back

draw nailed on
By:
Liverpool_YNWA
When: 14 Oct 13 17:11
We could be surprised with a high scoring draw. Probably not as much as Colombia v chile on friday
By:
smithy91
When: 15 Oct 13 22:07
What is going on here any unqouted 5.9 over 2.5 2.74 :D
By:
loui
When: 15 Oct 13 22:08
chile will win, no messing about.
By:
maas
When: 15 Oct 13 22:09
chile smash them
By:
Davy
When: 15 Oct 13 22:17
Chileans are fairly serious people.In my opinion out of all of South America the least likely nation to fix a game...
By:
mecca
When: 15 Oct 13 22:26
Just read this lot on here....... had a good day today , so what do i do now? Back the draw, Lay it or leave it alone?
By:
jamesdean
When: 15 Oct 13 22:30
joe9000 14 Oct 13 13:33 Joined: 23 Feb 11 | Topic/replies: 4,463 | Blogger: joe9000's blog
Argentina infamously rolled over for Uruguay in the last game of qualifying for the 2006 finals in order for Uruguay to pip Colombia to the playoff spot so anyone saying that Uruguay can't possibly get a big enough win the next day might just be proved incorrect......



That is a very good point. Argentina will be going to Uruguay without Messi etc who's to say they won't lie down again ? I certainly wouldn't put it past them I'm sure the Chile coach and the Ecuador coach are aware of that game too. If they are and they will be then what is there to stop them just saying 0-0 or 1-1 before the match ? Why take any chances when world cup qualification is on the line

I'll predict a win for Uruguay and a draw for Chile and Ecuador 11/4 double
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