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Earlier on the site of a high st bookie, I'd placed a £1 bet on a 1000/1 shot which won and withdrew the winnings in cash in their shop. I had a bit left in the account, was dabbling around later on and before I know it, they'd taken what was left in the account (50ish) with a note saying "recovery from incorrect odds settlement of 1000/1". Having spoken to someone on their live chat service, he said it was in their rules to do this and I owed them £947. After quite a long, drawn-out argument he said it'll be passed to IBAS and if I don't give them their money back then it'll be pursued through the courts.
My argument is this:
Odds of 1000/1 were offered on their website, I accepted those odds. If these are not the right odds, it is THEIR mistake.
Shortly after the conclusion of the event, I was paid £1,001 by them. THEY paid me the correct amount for the odds selected.
I later withdrew the funds in shop, a service THEY offer to all online account holders and was given £1,000 in cash by the member of staff. I am entitled to do this, as are all customers.
The bookmaker is trying to hold me responsible for a line of "mistakes" leading to this problem. They claim that in their T+C's that they may adjust your account accordingly if a bet is settled incorrectly which they did later on, after I'd withdrawn the money.
The problem here is: I have the £1,000 at my disposal now. It isn't my fault that they've paid out "incorrectly", as far as I'm concerned they have paid me the correct amount. If they believe the odds were not a true reflection of the market, then how do they intend on proving what the correct odds should have been at the time, if the odds displayed were indeed 1000/1? How is any punter meant to know what they actually are meant to be? If this is the case, bookies could just cancel any winning bet they pleased claiming that line.
According to them, I owe them just under £950 and will be contacting me about this. What should I be expecting here? Even if it was ruled in their favour, be it through IBAS or the courts, do they have the right to demand payment in full? Can I go and spend this as I please and tell them to sod orf? Sensible suggestions/experiences are muchly welcomed.
My argument is this:
Odds of 1000/1 were offered on their website, I accepted those odds. If these are not the right odds, it is THEIR mistake.
Shortly after the conclusion of the event, I was paid £1,001 by them. THEY paid me the correct amount for the odds selected.
I later withdrew the funds in shop, a service THEY offer to all online account holders and was given £1,000 in cash by the member of staff. I am entitled to do this, as are all customers.
The bookmaker is trying to hold me responsible for a line of "mistakes" leading to this problem. They claim that in their T+C's that they may adjust your account accordingly if a bet is settled incorrectly which they did later on, after I'd withdrawn the money.
The problem here is: I have the £1,000 at my disposal now. It isn't my fault that they've paid out "incorrectly", as far as I'm concerned they have paid me the correct amount. If they believe the odds were not a true reflection of the market, then how do they intend on proving what the correct odds should have been at the time, if the odds displayed were indeed 1000/1? How is any punter meant to know what they actually are meant to be? If this is the case, bookies could just cancel any winning bet they pleased claiming that line.
According to them, I owe them just under £950 and will be contacting me about this. What should I be expecting here? Even if it was ruled in their favour, be it through IBAS or the courts, do they have the right to demand payment in full? Can I go and spend this as I please and tell them to sod orf? Sensible suggestions/experiences are muchly welcomed.
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Dont know the full legal side of it but i do know of cases where the bookies have won these types of cases, Their argument will be you bet on this knowing full well it was not the true odds ( not saying you did know this or didnt have a right to ) they will use your betting history to back up their case on this. But with some recent bad press and pressure from mps on bookies they dont have everything their own way. They will also have a strong case as they will compare odds at the time of the event with other bookmakers justifying it was a complete error. They have also informed you in a reasonable amount of time about the matter.
But if it was me i would be keeping the money
But if it was me i would be keeping the money
Suppose a lot depends on wether you could argue the odds offered seemed genuine.....without knowing what the bet was we cant say but i really cannot see them chasing you for it
but im no legal expert
but im no legal expert
Seems like they're covered to me. It says they have the right to recover from you any amount overpaid and that's not dependent on it being in your account which would obviously be their first port of call. They should however be offering you what they believe to be the correct price (this you can argue with them over and probably come to some agreement). Without knowing the event if you do believe it was the price quoted (or not a million miles away) then let them take it to IBAS.
Levskie - it was a brand new account and I'd placed no more than 40 bets in the last 3 days.
Not sure which bookie this was but I presume a payout at those odds would be flagged internally and need to be authorised for it to be paid out?
At the very least they should have offered to pay you at whatever their 'correct' odds were. Because they didn't even do this, i'd say f*ck them.
Really cannot see them pursuing you through the courts for 950 quid because of how it was paid. If it'd been done online they could argue it. However i notice you said this:
"I later withdrew the funds in shop, a service THEY offer to all online account holders and was given £1,000 in cash by the member of staff"
All you would have to argue is that when you went into the shop, you asked the staff member to check and double check, they did this and they assured you it was correct and then gave you your money. End of argument.
Really cannot see them pursuing you through the courts for 950 quid because of how it was paid. If it'd been done online they could argue it. However i notice you said this:
"I later withdrew the funds in shop, a service THEY offer to all online account holders and was given £1,000 in cash by the member of staff"
All you would have to argue is that when you went into the shop, you asked the staff member to check and double check, they did this and they assured you it was correct and then gave you your money. End of argument.
They can also include or request you provide your betting history with other bookmakers ( thats if it went to court )
Biscuit makes a good point below me, that is one thing in your favor they have paid you out IN A SHOP
mmm - interesting one this, as you actually have the money.
if it was me I'd say I'd already spent it, and that if they take me to court for it I'd contest it and publicise the fact as widely as possible. then see what they say.
if it was me I'd say I'd already spent it, and that if they take me to court for it I'd contest it and publicise the fact as widely as possible. then see what they say.
The chances of them taking you to court are close to zero. The chances of them winning are absolutely nil. As the chap above states, they had three chances to check that the odds and payment were correct before you got your hands on their cash. No way in the world will they want to expose their own cluelessness in open court.
Their oxygen is publicity, which is why tomorrow you will hear of this huge bet being struck in one of their shops, and that guy who won a small fortune on a cheap football acca.
You have the money, no way will you ever have to give it back.
Finally, well done on working them over. Always nice to see.
Their oxygen is publicity, which is why tomorrow you will hear of this huge bet being struck in one of their shops, and that guy who won a small fortune on a cheap football acca.
You have the money, no way will you ever have to give it back.
Finally, well done on working them over. Always nice to see.
legally they have nothing as the bet is settled. b365 paid me £3600 once instead of £360. Withdrew the money 3 days later they mailed me saying we have made a mistake however as a gesture let me keep it then apologized for any inconvenience lol
i did check though & legally they couldn't force me to as the bet was settled
i did check though & legally they couldn't force me to as the bet was settled
I remember a similar thing on P - Power when newcastle played i think it was brighton in the cup last season i believe it was, and it went to extra time and a newcastle win was some crazy odds, alot of people got on it and of the people i knew nobody paid anything back.
You'd think so wouldn't you CJ. I know of someone once beating the countdown clock on cricket matches and making a nice 4 figures from it but all they did was suspend his account when they realised he was backing events 1 second before they happened, but did pay out
I'd have thought that for 4 figures someone would go "lets check this just to make sure everything is in order"..
I'd have thought that for 4 figures someone would go "lets check this just to make sure everything is in order"..
as a gesture let me keep it then apologized for any inconvenience
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that's the kind of inconvenience I could do with
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that's the kind of inconvenience I could do with
Without saying what the bet selection was and how wrong the odds were, it's hard to gauge all this imo.
Only my opinion and i probably in the minority on this, but if it was me and i knew the odds were massively wrong, i wouldn't be backing it cos i'd have no luck for it in the long run.
Only my opinion and i probably in the minority on this, but if it was me and i knew the odds were massively wrong, i wouldn't be backing it cos i'd have no luck for it in the long run.
It is odd they are taking this course of action over £950 like somebody said publicity is key to them, which is why i suspect PP never chased ( as far as i know ) anybody for the newcastle game as it made the news and they ended up looking good
Also be interesting to know what they say they would have done if you have put £1000 on at these odds and it lost
I'm thinking I should give this 4 weeks to run its course. That's sufficient time in my eyes. ^ I'm almost certain what the outcome there would be 
In fact, I raised a dispute with them only yesterday about this. I tried to back something at 6/5, as the bet was being placed (in play, had a 10 second timer) it changed to 11/10. I said that their rules state that should a price shorten while the timer is counting down then it will be rejected. Should the odds lengthen, the bet will be placed at the new odds.
That was £20. I didn't get my money back. Same bookmaker too.
In fact, I raised a dispute with them only yesterday about this. I tried to back something at 6/5, as the bet was being placed (in play, had a 10 second timer) it changed to 11/10. I said that their rules state that should a price shorten while the timer is counting down then it will be rejected. Should the odds lengthen, the bet will be placed at the new odds.
That was £20. I didn't get my money back. Same bookmaker too.
Maybe you could speak to somebody on their PR side or something similar and just say, look are you seriously going to chase me for xxx how do you think this is going to look?
I think they already know they've got no chance of getting back. Telling you they're contacting IBAS is an empty threat, nothing will come of it. Like i said, just tell them you asked the staff member to check and double check and they assured you it was fine, so you left with the money and now it's been spent.
If you don't hear anything in a few weeks though, please come back and tell us what the bet was
If you don't hear anything in a few weeks though, please come back and tell us what the bet was
I'll update with any correspondence from them, if any. I've kept the transcript with the online rep (50 minutes that took 
) just in case I need it as well.
) just in case I need it as well.
that's 50 minutes of your time they owe you for, for a start.
I see potential for a juicy counter claim here. tell them if you're forced to repay, you'll have to borrow it from wonga, and you'll sue them for the interest.
I see potential for a juicy counter claim here. tell them if you're forced to repay, you'll have to borrow it from wonga, and you'll sue them for the interest.
Whether you return the money to the bookie (I assume it must be a major firm) would depend on which bookie is involved.I suggest you return the money to Group B bookies as below
Group A: money grabbing, penny pinching, thieving, cheating, account closing or welshing bookies (or combination of any of these)
Group B: others
Now, how many in Group B?
More seriously, if it was on their website, their usual "palpable error" rule cannot apply. A counter clerk did not write 1000/1 on a slip instead of 50/1. Someone deliberately and WITH INTENT put up 1000/1 and it must have been checked. The fact that the odds compiler intended it to be 50/1 is irrelevant. The fact that the offer was clearly generous (could have been an "offer") is also irrelevant. Drink up (but don't use the account or the bookie again!)
Group A: money grabbing, penny pinching, thieving, cheating, account closing or welshing bookies (or combination of any of these)
Group B: others
Now, how many in Group B?
More seriously, if it was on their website, their usual "palpable error" rule cannot apply. A counter clerk did not write 1000/1 on a slip instead of 50/1. Someone deliberately and WITH INTENT put up 1000/1 and it must have been checked. The fact that the odds compiler intended it to be 50/1 is irrelevant. The fact that the offer was clearly generous (could have been an "offer") is also irrelevant. Drink up (but don't use the account or the bookie again!)
Not trying to cause an argument jimmy but as far as im aware palpable error does apply online
I had the same threat a couple of years ago with another high street company. I couldn't sleep and paid them back. I wish I hadn't having researched since. These people legally rob people blind all day long and if they have made the mistake it is their fault. What is their argument? There is none. They offered the odds and have to honour them. What if you said that you backed a dog that loses and you realise you backed the wrong trap number. Im sure you wouldn't get a refund. Call them and explain that you won't pay them back and if they feel that they have a case to take you to a small claims court and if pressured you will have no choice but to make the situation public.
i thought gambling debts weren't enforceable in the UK ??
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tell them you put it in the fobt in another bookie as you have a problem
they dont seem to like bad publicity about them things
they dont seem to like bad publicity about them things
idle threat by them imho , trying it on , in case u fold ...take the money and enjoy your good fortune , when you think of their threat , just laugh harder
would love to know what the selection was and what the 'actual' price should have been ...I'm guessing it was laddies as their the only High Street firm i can think of that would pay out internet accounts in cash in shop ...
would love to know what the selection was and what the 'actual' price should have been ...I'm guessing it was laddies as their the only High Street firm i can think of that would pay out internet accounts in cash in shop ...
William hill also offer a payout in their stores from online accounts aswell
Mar 11, 2013 -- 11:05PM, toffee87 wrote:
just send them a copy of your T&Cs which stateIt is in the interests of the bookmaker to check payments when they are made are correct as overpayments can not be returned at a later date
toffee has the right idea 
this would be something like my approach
although , it would depend on what the selection was , and what the 'true' odds should have been
£1 at 1000's ?? r we sure ur not fishing /
changed in 04 i think nicky.....been enforceable for a while anyway
I'm not up to date on the law as it is now.But when has a gambling debt been recoverable by law.
Also I would say that I had been in another shop & blown it in 1 of those Poker machines.Which you obviously would not have done without there windfall.100% keep it.
If you were to offer me a grand from you personally or £900-00 from a filthy bookie I would take the £900-00 every time.When all these poor bas**rds lose all there wages every friday afternoon on there way home to the wife & kids,all they do is plan how to put more machines in etc.
Seems like a bit of Robin Hood behaviour here m8.Give them f** k all.
Also I would say that I had been in another shop & blown it in 1 of those Poker machines.Which you obviously would not have done without there windfall.100% keep it.
If you were to offer me a grand from you personally or £900-00 from a filthy bookie I would take the £900-00 every time.When all these poor bas**rds lose all there wages every friday afternoon on there way home to the wife & kids,all they do is plan how to put more machines in etc.
Seems like a bit of Robin Hood behaviour here m8.Give them f** k all.
If it wasn't for those machines most bookies would be out of business.There are now 4 times more betting shops in this country.
If you have a proper bet in a bookies & cheer your horse home in a tight finish people tut at you.They wouldn't allow Super Casino's in this country,but they have let bookies off the leash to do absolutely what they please.I'm guessing,but I think they will be causing more poverty & misery than Arcades & loan sharks ever have.
You keep that cash m8.I wish in this day of computer says no,that it happened more often.Fare play to you,go 7 waste it on your mother if you feel guilty.The only sad thing is that none of them will lose any sleep over it.
If you have a proper bet in a bookies & cheer your horse home in a tight finish people tut at you.They wouldn't allow Super Casino's in this country,but they have let bookies off the leash to do absolutely what they please.I'm guessing,but I think they will be causing more poverty & misery than Arcades & loan sharks ever have.
You keep that cash m8.I wish in this day of computer says no,that it happened more often.Fare play to you,go 7 waste it on your mother if you feel guilty.The only sad thing is that none of them will lose any sleep over it.
Spend it and give them nowt.No way this would ever go to court
I can guess what bookies this is they credited my account with someone else's winnings on more than one occasion but this was before you could withdraw in a shop and they eventually noticed.
I would spend that money with more enjoyment than any other.Serves the clever bas**rds right.They would take your last penny & smile as you made your way to the poor house.
Buy something fancy,that you wouldn't normally buy with your hard earned.
Buy something fancy,that you wouldn't normally buy with your hard earned.
this thread is a load of bollox... do high streets even offer 1000/1 name the bet or piss off
kingmax is right I never seen 1000/1 in a high street bookie website. name the bet or piss off.
This never happened. £1 at 1000/1 LOL. Unless it's an accy i dont believe you at all.
keep the money and never bet with them again.......remember if ur betting with them ur losing........if u win from them be done with them........they wont take u to court
keep it and run
I placed a bet on 100/1..accepted the bet...an hour later they say price mistake.....he wins the tournament...2k short
I placed a bet on 100/1..accepted the bet...an hour later they say price mistake.....he wins the tournament...2k short
this is really funny some, p i s s ed off manager, is after coming up with the cunning plan to scare you into giving the money back, even the threat of fear has you thinking differently, from my experiences, keep the money and do what you like with it, even write a letter back saying you will go on the offence making your story viral, through facebook the lad bible and many, many betting pages, if they even consider trying to cheat you out of your winning bet,
I'd be sending them a threatening email of my own, demanding that they mail me a cheque for the outstanding balance of my account within 7 days. Failure to do so will result in a complaint of theft being filed with the police.
If this story is true -then good.
Mate you've got the bookie by the balls - a rare occurrence, they're not going to go through the small claim courts it'll cost them and bring bad publicity, just a complete waste of time, keep the money and close your online account, if you continue to use the online account and get back into 1k profit they'd probably take it before you've had the chance to withdraw.
Mate you've got the bookie by the balls - a rare occurrence, they're not going to go through the small claim courts it'll cost them and bring bad publicity, just a complete waste of time, keep the money and close your online account, if you continue to use the online account and get back into 1k profit they'd probably take it before you've had the chance to withdraw.
Morning all. Someone in this thread is correct with which bookmaker it is, however I won't verify this as yet.
I'm also incredibly disappointed by some people telling me to **** off not believing this to be true calling my integrity into question. I shouldn't be bowing to your demands, but I'll post a screenshot shortly to quash any non-believers. I'm not a liar, never have been and never will be.
I'm also incredibly disappointed by some people telling me to **** off not believing this to be true calling my integrity into question. I shouldn't be bowing to your demands, but I'll post a screenshot shortly to quash any non-believers. I'm not a liar, never have been and never will be.
http://imageshack.us/f/705/1k1w.jpg/ - Picture 1 showing the (obviously edited) selection.
http://imageshack.us/f/14/1k2i.jpg/ - The funds being credited to my account, and the withdrawal (W/S = Withdrawal, Shop)
http://imageshack.us/f/14/1k3qd.jpg/ - Them adjusting my account by £53.
http://imageshack.us/f/14/1k2i.jpg/ - The funds being credited to my account, and the withdrawal (W/S = Withdrawal, Shop)
http://imageshack.us/f/14/1k3qd.jpg/ - Them adjusting my account by £53.
from my experience a 'palpable error' would have been flagged up on their system well before the actual event.
Some of you may remember this. Round about 2005 WH priced up the handicap of a rugby league game between Whitehaven and Rochdale wrong. Whitehaven were clearly favourites and most other bookies had them giving away 16 of a start. WH gave Whitehaven 16 of a start. I bet it online for 500 and got on. I phoned my pal and he got on too. Together with another friend we had £2k put away to take us to Cheltenham. We stuck that on as well. I can't remember the final score but Whitehaven won very comfortably. WH paid out all three bets online and never queried it.
I think it is significant that the OP hasn't revealed what the bet was.
Why hasn't he?
Why hasn't he?
You may claim not be a liar, but you are a cheat, OP
that is, although you are being endorsed by plenty of other
cheats it seems.
that is, although you are being endorsed by plenty of other
cheats it seems.
I had a bet on overpriced odds of the time of 1st goal markets with betfred 15mins 30mins. Covered over 30 mins with another bookie so no risk bet. Betfred cancelled my bet unknown to me 5 mins before kick off and I lost a lot of money. So keep the money as they screw us every day.
Bet placed at ten past three yesterday " in play " - wouldn't think there were too many events being bet in play then ! Not football, not cricket,not rugby, not golf - snooker ??
Mar 12, 2013 -- 8:08PM, EUGENE KRABS wrote:
Bet placed at ten past three yesterday " in play " - wouldn't think there were too many events being bet in play then ! Not football, not cricket,not rugby, not golf - snooker ??
Full of football at 3pm yesterday.
seriously though if this is genuine, tell them to do one...inept bookies should be punished
If it is true (?) tell them to do one.Long gone are the days of being honest with the filth that portray themselves as "bookmakers"...
Tell them you put the cash in the FOBT on the way out and you will write to the local paper and tell them that you have had £50 stolen from you.And will get that back quickly...
Tell them you put the cash in the FOBT on the way out and you will write to the local paper and tell them that you have had £50 stolen from you.And will get that back quickly...
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legally they have nothing as the bet is settled. b365 paid me £3600 once instead of £360. Withdrew the money 3 days later they mailed me saying we have made a mistake however as a gesture let me keep it then apologized for any inconvenience lol
i did check though & legally they couldn't force me to as the bet was settled
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The chances of them taking you to court are close to zero. The chances of them winning are absolutely nil. As the chap above states, they had three chances to check that the odds and payment were correct before you got your hands on their cash. No way in the world will they want to expose their own cluelessness in open court.
these 2 together sum it up right imo. GL with it.
Teddy, hope you are well and winning.
Mar 12, 2013 -- 7:19PM, kenilworth wrote:
You may claim not be a liar, but you are a cheat, OP that is, although you are being endorsed by plenty of other cheats it seems.
Please explain how I'm a cheat? I'm not telling what the bet was until there is an outcome one way or another, if they do decide to pursue it. In fact, it's not really your business what the bet was, all I'm asking for is some kind of clarification from people that have had such experiences and what their legal stance is, if any. As a former book yourself you seem incredibly bitter about this whole situation.
I'm getting a bit annoyed with people claiming that I'm fishing here when I've even provided plenty evidence when 99.99% of people on here wouldn't even bother. It's genuine. Hell, I have the slip confirming the withdrawal from my account right in front of me and I could post that too, but it's not worth the hassle because there will still be jealous non-believers.
How can anyone give an opinion on your 'bet' without
your disclosing the facts? if you want an opinion,
you should give the full facts, otherwise you are
cheating.
your disclosing the facts? if you want an opinion,
you should give the full facts, otherwise you are
cheating.
Not at all. I'd also like an answer to the question I asked you previously about the 1/10 vs 11/10 bet etc and an honest one at that. Can you understand why I'm not revealing the bet as yet?
It is hard to give a full opinion without the bet as if it was meant to be a really short price then its going to be obvious you took advantage of it, but its obviously up to you when you post it, just going to have some people calling you out without the bet.
I have no reason to doubt your story and hope you get a good outcome.
I have no reason to doubt your story and hope you get a good outcome.
Thank you. I get why some people don't believe it, but I don't like being branded as a liar, cheat, fisher, whatever terms you care to use when it's not really a made-up fantasy and I've proven that much. It's interesting to see who's for and against my case though, and it appears 90% are for. I've also replied to your PM, Levskie.
shrewd move withdrawing the money in cash, a definite sign you were cheating though.
cunning execution but shifty as hell
cunning execution but shifty as hell
I had an account with the same bookmaker until last year but closed it as I was going to give the game up, withdrew numerous times in cash as the branch is 50 yards from the bank that I bank with and it's at my disposal straight away. Saves waiting 5 days for it.
IMO ocukstinky, I would get on the phone to Laddies, explain to them you are deeply sorry. Explain that your realise that you have sinned that you will repay the £947 in full and also pay them a additonal £100 as a gogw towards the end of year staff party kitty to make it up to them and to show you have seen the error of your ways...
exactly, if you had waited 5 days you'd have not got it.
You've got away with it though. Just ignore any correspondence.
You've got away with it though. Just ignore any correspondence.
Feck me. I'm a shareholder. 0.001p of that £947 is mine
ocukstinky - ignore the abusive posts, rest easy in the fact that there's very little they can do to get it back and also be sure to remember that there is not a single soul here who when sitting there with £950 in their hands, would walk back to the bookies and give it back.
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Not at all. I'd also like an answer to the question I asked you previously about the 1/10 vs 11/10 bet etc and an honest one at that. Can you understand why I'm not revealing the bet as yet?
I can't remember that. could you repeat the question?
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Not at all. I'd also like an answer to the question I asked you previously about the 1/10 vs 11/10 bet etc and an honest one at that. Can you understand why I'm not revealing the bet as yet?
I can't remember that. could you repeat the question?
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Not at all. I'd also like an answer to the question I asked you previously about the 1/10 vs 11/10 bet etc and an honest one at that. Can you understand why I'm not revealing the bet as yet?
I can't remember that. could you repeat the question?
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Not at all. I'd also like an answer to the question I asked you previously about the 1/10 vs 11/10 bet etc and an honest one at that. Can you understand why I'm not revealing the bet as yet?
I can't remember that. could you repeat the question?
Clydebank - cheque will be in the post once with interest it reaches 1p 
Sorry ken, it was on the other thread.
If someone wanted £1000 on a 1/10 when it should have been 11/10, would you give it back if they had lost? If they had won, would you return £1100 or £2100?
Sorry ken, it was on the other thread.
If someone wanted £1000 on a 1/10 when it should have been 11/10, would you give it back if they had lost? If they had won, would you return £1100 or £2100?
Hang on, that doesn't really make a lot of sense.
Punter wants £1000 on 11/10, it's written on a slip as 1/10. What happens?
Punter wants £1000 on 11/10, it's written on a slip as 1/10. What happens?
If it lost would they have give you the £1 back NOPE
Like someone else said just say its all in FOBT machine
Nothing can happen here FACT
Like someone else said just say its all in FOBT machine
Nothing can happen here FACT
Depends on the event Ocukstinky, horse racing he would get the price of the bet at the time struck according to the database, be that pre race or early price. If it was football he would get the price at KO on the server IMO.
Lets say it was an in-play snooker match, first to 5, player a was 4/9 pre match, leads 4-2 and is 1/10. FWIW this has no bearing on my event, just made it up.
Once had a treble on the darts, one was in-play, 2 were later on. £10 on 6/5 (in play), 11/4 and 1/3. They all won. I assumed the computers captured the odds according to the time the bet was struck, but when I went to collect my winnings she said the in-play one was void because it hadn't been stated on the slip. Told her I thought the machine captured time/price and synched up. Apparently doesn't work like that. She refused to pay up, told her I'd stand there arguing all night if I had to. After an hour and a half she gave in and paid me. What does that tell you
Once had a treble on the darts, one was in-play, 2 were later on. £10 on 6/5 (in play), 11/4 and 1/3. They all won. I assumed the computers captured the odds according to the time the bet was struck, but when I went to collect my winnings she said the in-play one was void because it hadn't been stated on the slip. Told her I thought the machine captured time/price and synched up. Apparently doesn't work like that. She refused to pay up, told her I'd stand there arguing all night if I had to. After an hour and a half she gave in and paid me. What does that tell you
FFS it's late and I'm even confusing myself here. Ignore the above example. Player a is 4/9 pre match, but trails 2-3 and is now 11/10. 1/10 is written on the slip.
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shrewd move withdrawing the money in cash, a definite sign you were cheating though. Laugh
cunning execution but shifty as hell
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shrewd move withdrawing the money in cash, a definite sign you were cheating though. Laugh
cunning execution but shifty as hell
In the other thread ken has stated he doesn't answer hypothetical questions, which says to me he's as guilty as every other bookmaker out there and has mugged off many a customer in his time in the name of profit. I'm off to bed, let the opinions roll in..
I had to argue with billy hills to cash out last week then basically told them i was an addict and needed it out or else id lose on roulette.They paid into my neteller and then today i back a horse at cheltenham the free £10 + bet is meant to guarantee a free bet so ive been back at them for it but apparently i dont qualify.I have the letter here which states it.But when losing they never bother accounts.If you are seriously thinking of giving that cash back give up gambling.You placed a bet and it won
theres not a single poster on this thread would hand the money back imo, even the forums self appointed moral guardian
It all depends on how strong you are mentally. They will write to you, phone you and email and will try and make you believe that they are right and you are wrong. When all is said and done, to get a price on a website and for it to be paid out, the bet and price has to go through the system of checks and balances. If something goes wrong it is 100% their fault. If you placed a bet for £100 meaning it to be £10 and asked them to cancel it as it was a mistake they would tell you to get stuffed you should have checked, so the same principle applies.
You should also mention between the lines that should they pursue it you will let every newspaper, tv show, website, forum and man on the street know how this firm treats its customers when they have a winner. Any bookmaker would pay 100 times what you got to avoid bad publicity.
Your in the power position and dont let them bully you.
Good luck.
You should also mention between the lines that should they pursue it you will let every newspaper, tv show, website, forum and man on the street know how this firm treats its customers when they have a winner. Any bookmaker would pay 100 times what you got to avoid bad publicity.
Your in the power position and dont let them bully you.
Good luck.
One thing a punter should remember, the onus is on
the him to write his bet correctly, if he doesn't
do that, he is at the mercy of the rule book.
Re taking prices, these should be confirmed when
the bet is struck, at that is how it was when I was
behind the counter. Normally the price should be
written on the betting slip and then confirmed by
the counter clerk.
the him to write his bet correctly, if he doesn't
do that, he is at the mercy of the rule book.
Re taking prices, these should be confirmed when
the bet is struck, at that is how it was when I was
behind the counter. Normally the price should be
written on the betting slip and then confirmed by
the counter clerk.
bookies can still claim ''palp'' even if the above is adhered to
maybe the bookie should realise the onus is on them to price correctly
then again, their 120% books are by definition never correct
so what's the problem when the book adds up to less than that?
then again, their 120% books are by definition never correct
so what's the problem when the book adds up to less than that?
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