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By:
million1
When: 09 Oct 13 22:38
i know my boys used to follow England all over Europe--and one of their mates followed them all over world never even missed a friendly---they had some really good stories Laugh
By:
dizzydavid1
When: 09 Oct 13 22:43
Paul , keep an eye out for that bloke from This is England in his sheepskin coat, he's ready to rumble
By:
treble
When: 09 Oct 13 22:48
Was at xmas at Charlton a few years back.

There was a Santa going round giving out presents and the crowd got well out of hand. Accusing him buttering up kids with presents and calling him a coont because he forgot their bikes.

All rather distateful. Got so bad at one point that the stewards had to resort to strong words.
By:
sofiakenny
When: 09 Oct 13 23:18
I was once at a football match and some ruffian grabbed my unopened bag of Smokey Bacon
He then squashed the bag so that all my crisps were in tiny bits...never went back again.Plain
By:
million1
When: 09 Oct 13 23:20
did the stewards eject the RUFFIAN Laugh
By:
mecca
When: 10 Oct 13 02:44

Oct 9, 2013 -- 11:18PM, sofiakenny wrote:


I was once at a football match and some ruffian grabbed my unopened bag of Smokey BaconHe then squashed the bag so that all my crisps were in tiny bits...never went back again.


Was this at The Walkers stadium, Leicester?

By:
jermaine defonebox
When: 10 Oct 13 07:30
Awaydays  or awaygays as some called it was not only the best football fighting film   But one if the best films for a long while
Makes my top 50 of all time
By:
Tony Broke
When: 10 Oct 13 07:40
Birkenhead is not a good place to be tho parts of it have improved, somewhat.
my brother, who went to more games than I did, once went to west ham on a home james coach for an f a cup tie.
they arrived after the game had kicked off, so the fans on the coach all piled off and just began to enter the nearest turnstiles they could find, waiting just inside was a rather tough w ham fan, cigarette dangling from one corner of his mouth, who proceeded to beat up scousers who entered the stadium, this went on throughout the game as the other fans managed to get inside, then after the game bruv told me he and others just knocked on some old womans door and they stayed in her house for a while til things had calmed a little.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 10 Oct 13 11:35
ahhhh.... brilliant times eh?
By:
kellydamo
When: 10 Oct 13 15:02
Too many to mention for me and I am now retired what with my age and also the advance of camera phones and cctv
By:
million1
When: 10 Oct 13 17:03
kellydamo---can you imagine them being around "in the good old days"Laugh
By:
kellydamo
When: 10 Oct 13 17:41
That would have been a right nightmare, think a lot of people would have been off the streets then, not just us football lot but the mods, ska lot, skinheads everyone !
By:
million1
When: 10 Oct 13 17:46
attendences would be 2000 and 3000 prisons built in uk
By:
kellydamo
When: 10 Oct 13 17:52
exactly that mate, far to hard for a meet these days but there is the occasional one Wink
By:
million1
When: 10 Oct 13 18:02
LaughLaughLaugh
By:
breadnbutter
When: 10 Oct 13 21:18
Sunday morning game ,Under 12,s  ...brutal challenge from a big lad ...parents get involved  ,next thing two middle aged milfs start rolling about  , dads go toe to toe   . ...then its a full on  free for all ....ref runs away  at speed ...kids crying/screeming  ..  dogs barking ...pure madness    Laugh

cop cars descend on field  of play ,... what a  cup tie .Laugh

replay was  an uneventful 1-0 win

miss the kids footie Laugh
By:
dr . atkins
When: 10 Oct 13 22:21
been at hackney marshes when a young kid turns up looking for someone with a gun just when you think you have seen it all
By:
million1
When: 10 Oct 13 22:25
breadnbutter--classic Laugh
By:
million1
When: 10 Oct 13 22:37
did anyone see the league table for banning orders at football in todays paper ?
top---Cardiff-121
2nd--Chelsea--110
4th--Leeds--72
5th-Millwall65
bottom---Burton 0







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By:
Roker_Park
When: 10 Oct 13 22:42
7 Newcastle fans jailed today for attacking police and horses after their defeat to Sunderland last April and more getting sentenced in next couple of weeks.
By:
million1
When: 10 Oct 13 22:44
they say its all kicking off again---but will never be as bad as old days-IMO
By:
million1
When: 10 Oct 13 22:45
Roker--what did they get for that ?
By:
Roker_Park
When: 10 Oct 13 22:48
Various sentences from 10 to 21 months, all from CCTV images.
By:
donny osmond
When: 10 Oct 13 22:49
Sunderland fans are fifth in arrests table – but Newcastle supporters top the trouble league

Newcastle United supporter Barry Rogerson, 45, who was caught on camera punching a police horse following Newcastle's defeat against Sunderland.
by David Allison
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SUNDERLAND AFC may be bottom of the Premier League at the minute – but the club’s supporters are comfortably top-half when it comes to arrests at matches.

According to new data released by the Home Office, the Black Cats are fifth in the table for arrests.

In the 2012/13 season, a total of 71 Sunderland fans were arrested at league fixtures, with 38 people being given football banning orders between November 2012 and last month.

Forty-five arrests were made at the Stadium of Light, with the rest coming at grounds where Black Cats supporters were in away seating areas.

Of the 71 arrests, 33 were for violent disorder, 16 for alcohol offences, 12 for public disorder, five for racist or indecent chanting, one for pitch incursion, one for possession or use of fires or flares and two for breaching banning orders.

Neighbours Newcastle United, however, top the list, with a recorded 175 arrests and 58 supporters banned from going to games.

Northumbria Police arrested scores of people after Sunderland’s 3-0 win over the Magpies in April, after violence flared in Newcastle city centre.

Champions Manchester United came second in the table with 145 arrests, with neighbours Manchester City on 95.

Chelsea were just ahead of Sunderland, on 92 arrests.

London club Fulham are bottom with six arrests and four bans for supporters.

The figures for arrests in all matches in the Football League and Premier League has risen by four per cent on the previous year.

SAFC safety and security manager Paul Weir said: “The safety and comfort of our supporters is always our utmost priority, and it’s not something we are willing to compromise. The club continues to work proactively with supporters groups and Northumbria Police, and we will continue to take a firm stance to ensure we provide a friendly, welcoming and safe environment for all fans.”
By:
million1
When: 10 Oct 13 22:53
thats better than the crap i read---as they said on here last night----you have no chance now --they must know they are gonna get done
By:
donny osmond
When: 10 Oct 13 22:55
Details of criminal prosecutions have been released as those arrested for the Tyne-Wear derby disorder are due to appear in court.

Officers were drafted in from across the region to deal with Sunday’s sell-out fixture on Tyneside with more than 50,000 supporters attending St James’ Park.

In both Sunderland and Newcastle, officers were out from early on Sunday morning, visiting bars and pubs and speaking to fans.

A total of 29 arrests were made throughout the day - five before the match in Newcastle and eight inside the stadium during the game.

After the match, four arrests were made in Sunderland and 12 in Newcastle.


Details of criminal prosecutions have been released as those arrested for the Tyne-Wear derby disorder are due to appear in court.

Officers were drafted in from across the region to deal with Sunday’s sell-out fixture on Tyneside with more than 50,000 supporters attending St James’ Park.

In both Sunderland and Newcastle, officers were out from early on Sunday morning, visiting bars and pubs and speaking to fans.

A total of 29 arrests were made throughout the day - five before the match in Newcastle and eight inside the stadium during the game.

After the match, four arrests were made in Sunderland and 12 in Newcastle.

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Before the game in Newcastle, three men aged 40, 37 and 27 arrested for affray and a man aged 31 was arrested for disorderly conduct, all bailed pending further inquiries.

Meanwhile Craig McGee, 31, of Hutton Grove in Haswell, Durham, was charged with causing fear or provocation of violence and is due to appear at Sunderland Mags on May 9. 

During the fixture flares and smoke grenades were hurled at opposing fans. Two men aged 21 and 20 were arrested for public order offences and bailed. A 31-year-old man was arrested for possessing a firework or flare at a sports event and bailed and a man aged 21 was arrested for disorderly conduct and bailed.

A 53-year-old man was cautioned for being drunk in a sports ground.

Michael Briggs, 27, of Strandford Road in Seaham, was charged with being drunk and disorderly and will appear at Sunderland Magistrates’ Court  on May 13.

Daniel Purvis, 24, Fieldway, Jarrow, South Tyneside, is charged with possessing a firework or flare at a sports event and will appear at Sunderland Magistrates’ Court on May 13. 

Craig Lee Stanworth, 21, of Dean Park in Ferryhill, Co. Durham, is charged with disorderly conduct and will appear at Newcastle Magistrates’ Court on May 9.  

Following the game, officers continued their operation in Sunderland. Two men aged 30 were given fixed penalty notices for being drunk and disorderly, and a 24-year-old man was arrested for criminal damage and bailed pending further enquiries. Anthony Paul Holyoak, 21, of Brandling Street in Roker is charged with drunk and disorderly and is due to appear at Sunderland Magistrates’ Court on May 1.

On Tyneside three men aged 32, 20 and 44 and a woman aged 21 received penalty notices for being drunk and disorderly while a 25-year-old man received a summons for being drunk and disorderly.

Two men aged 19 were arrested for affray and bailed, while a 25 year-old man arrested for assault has also been bailed.

Four males arrested on suspicion of violent disorder - one aged 45 arrested by Northumbria Police following an incident involving a police horse - and two men aged 41 and 18 and a youth aged 15 arrested by British Transport Police - have also been bailed pending further inquiries. 

Chief Supt Steve Neill said: “I want to reiterate that the vast majority of football supporters were well behaved on Sunday, with just a handful of arrests made before the game and just eight inside the stadium during the match.

“Disappointingly, there was some disorder following the match in the city centre. I want to stress that this happened in a very small area of the city, which was quickly contained by officers and at no point did officers lose control of the situation. 

“The people involved were making attempts to confront Sunderland supporters being brought into the city in a foot escort from the stadium, but due to the police presence, were unsuccessful and started confronting officers instead. 

“We are very experienced at dealing with situations such as this and officers worked swiftly to contain the situation. I’d like to commend all officers and staff involved in the operation for their professionalism and bravery in returning Newcastle city centre back to normality quickly.” 

An investigation is now underway to ensure anyone involved in disorder is identified. 

Chief Supt Neill added: “It’s possible the people involved hadn’t even been to the match and in no way do they reflect the tens of thousands of true football supporters who attended the game to enjoy the occasion and support their team. 

“There no place for violence in football and any disorder is completely unacceptable. Our ultimate aim is the safety of the public and an investigation is underway to trace those involved in this disruption following the match and ensure action is taken. 

“I’d appeal for anyone who has information about those involved or who has mobile phone footage of the incident to contact police, anonymously as necessary, as soon as possible.” 
By:
donny osmond
When: 10 Oct 13 23:00
Specialist football violence unit scrapped just months before derby day disorder




A task force charged with cracking down on football violence was scrapped just months before Tyneside’s derby day disorder.

Undercover spotters  with experience of weeding out known “risk supporters” were relocated to area commands across the region.

Northumbria Police’s specialist football unit, set up to prevent scenes like those witnessed after last week’s Tyne-Wear derby in which Newcastle fans  pelted police with missiles, now operates within a central crime and intelligence unit.

Radical changes implemented in November last year are thought to have been sparked by an internal review of the “force business”, and the Chronicle understands the force’s football liaison officer has been scrapped.

A spokesman for Northumbria Police said  dedicated officers  still exist to “link in with forces both across the country and internationally” to plan matches, but admitted they were also responsible for other roles.

Some specialist officers deployed elsewhere have been brought back for fixtures at St James’ Park, but this has not stopped an outbreak of disorder over recent months.

Flares and smoke bombs have been ignited, while travelling Newcastle supporters  caused chaos  when they stormed an amateur football game in Wigan to stage a 40-minute rampage.

Phil Butler, who ran as the Conservative candidate for the Police and Crime Commissioner post following a 30-year career as a detective with Northumbria Police, said: “When you divert resources into one area it can be to the detriment of everything else. These are trained officers who have been recruited and trained at significant public expense.

“Not only that  but, with the football intelligence unit, you’ve lost years and years of organisational memory.”

Hundreds of  fans who have been at the centre of disorder at North East football grounds have been handed football banning orders during the unit’s 10-year lifespan.

Yesterday, Acting Chief Constable Jim Campbell  said the re-structure would help provide “specialist services” for match days as well as taking  into account “all the events taking place in the force area on that day”.

But fears have been raised that, without a specialist team, the tough approach would be lost and less of the known football thugs would be identified.

A source said: “Both Newcastle and Sunderland had a football liaison officer but they don’t exist anymore.

“Why would you disband that unit in the middle of the season?

“It was absolutely ludicrous. It’s no coincidence that this disorder coincides with the disbanding of the football intelligence unit.”

Acting Chief Cons Campbell  said the new move would help deliver a “more coordinated approach”.

He said: “The policing operation around a football match involves a number of functions, including liaising with clubs, monitoring football-related intelligence, gathering evidence and watching  for known troublemakers.

“All of these functions are still an important part of how we prepare for and monitor football fixtures.

“In order to provide a more coordinated approach, these have all been integrated into the wider intelligence and planning functions.

“This enables us to provide the specialist services required for policing football in the context of the wider policing picture, ensuring the planning takes into account all the events taking place in the force area on that day.”

A spokesman denied there was an internal “integrity report” but said a “review of  the way we carry out all aspects of force business” had sparked the changes.

He said: “One of the results of the review was that each club was allocated a lead match commander who has a close working relationship with both clubs on all aspects of football issues.” A spokesman for Northumbria police and crime commissioner Vera Baird said all operational matters should be referred to Chief Constable Sue Sim.

Chi Onwurah, MP for Newcastle Central, said: “Clearly football intelligence needs to be resourced and prioritised, with clear responsibility and reporting.

“Given the level of violence at the Newcastle and Sunderland match, it is hard to conclude that that was the case.”
By:
VCM
When: 10 Oct 13 23:14
Bristol City top the league for banning orders Confused  Likely to be more tomorrow after pictures of those wanted for involvement in the handbags after the Rovers match are published.
What goes on today bears no comparison to what used to go on.
By:
what do i do now?
When: 11 Oct 13 00:53
It's well known that the police will arrest you for virtually anything at football games. I've never been involved in trouble (at football or away from football), but cos I like a drink, I've been lucky not to get arrested on several occasions.

And once you're arrested at a football game, they try to get you hit with a banning order.

It's a disgrace. An absolute disgrace. I've been so drunk at various sporting events, it's untrue. Yet they target football. The laws (and the police) are a disgrace.

#ACAB
By:
what do i do now?
When: 11 Oct 13 00:53
It's well known that the police will arrest you for virtually anything at football games. I've never been involved in trouble (at football or away from football), but cos I like a drink, I've been lucky not to get arrested on several occasions.

And once you're arrested at a football game, they try to get you hit with a banning order.

It's a disgrace. An absolute disgrace. I've been so drunk at various sporting events, it's untrue. Yet they target football. The laws (and the police) are a disgrace.

#ACAB
By:
kellydamo
When: 11 Oct 13 01:21

Oct 11, 2013 -- 12:53AM, what do i do now? wrote:


It's well known that the police will arrest you for virtually anything at football games. I've never been involved in trouble (at football or away from football), but cos I like a drink, I've been lucky not to get arrested on several occasions.And once you're arrested at a football game, they try to get you hit with a banning order.It's a disgrace. An absolute disgrace. I've been so drunk at various sporting events, it's untrue. Yet they target football. The laws (and the police) are a disgrace.#ACAB


Spot on

By:
therhino
When: 11 Oct 13 07:24
Interesting thread. In Australia, we don't have these issues. The odd punch up between drunks or people throwing **** on the field at the footy or cricket is big news. Worst thing I've seen was a basketball match. Turkey vs Yugoslavia, a line of cops and security in the middle whilst inside the stadium was broken, action piled out to Margaret Court Arena outside (the game was at Rod Laver Arena where the Oz Open Tennis is). About 100 people brawling and burning flags.

We are lightweights in Oz when talking hooliganism, a good thing really.
By:
Orsoncart
When: 11 Oct 13 09:03
Been to a few of these Germany v England  2000 Charleroi vowed never to go to an England game again, today I will breaking that rule for the first time, the supporters that day were shameful. Great atmosphere though.

Copenhagen Arse v galatasary (coonts) great the way loads of British firms gave it to them that day, heard all sorts of b#llshit about what happened lets just say I tried to buy some Danes a beer in the square before the game! they didn't want to know, and probably rightly so, always had a soft spot for Leeds since those days.

Worst in Britain was borough away 1977 or 78 trouble all over the ground before during and after , darts etc they even put up a massive screen between the fans, going back to the station was carnage, never seen so much claret.

Biggest rush watching 500 wolves bottle it outside against 27 arsenal Friday night 1980 after we,d just lost to west ham in the fa cup final on the Saturday and Valencia in Brussels on the Wednesday up at the old molineux in the south bank days.
By:
Petrus Romanus
When: 12 Oct 13 05:18
Man Utd away at Norwich 1977. We traveled from Rochdale bus station to the game...I was 17.  It was insanity from start to finish. Some poor sod fell through the stand roof and onto the stone steps of the stand and got carted onto the pitch and while he was laying at death's door on a stretcher the Norwich lads ran onto the pitch to give him a good shoeing.

Alex Stepney nearly had his head sliced off by something that looked like a 12x12 piece of sheet metal...only just missed him.  There was so much going on it's hard to list it all. It was a long time ago but that one sticks in my mind as the worst ever.  It doesn't really paint the true picture but there's a few vids on youtube about it...like this one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGCWO1U7vaQ
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