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By:
meadway
When: 11 Nov 12 17:16
Tobermory you mug! More like jackanory! LaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
Rowan86
When: 11 Nov 12 17:19
lol Meadway. I don't see how he was a mug. Newcastle had an off day today. Evens wasn't bad at all imo.
By:
mesmerised
When: 11 Nov 12 17:19

kenilworth 11 Nov 12 17:04 Joined: 04 Nov 05 | Topic/replies: 10,156 | Blogger: kenilworth's blog
He's too ugly.




I'm sure you're an oil painting.
By:
R0ykeane
When: 11 Nov 12 17:20
Newcastle a pub team
By:
kenilworth
When: 11 Nov 12 17:21
Quite right, but I'm not being
considered for the England job.
By:
meadway
When: 11 Nov 12 19:34

Nov 11, 2012 -- 5:19PM, Rowan86 wrote:


lol Meadway. I don't see how he was a mug. Newcastle had an off day today. Evens wasn't bad at all imo.


Lol because of his little right up, that's why. West ham to do well to stay up? Laugh

By:
marychain1
When: 11 Nov 12 20:03
In a match where every outcome (1X2) is as likely as any other, then 2/1 is the price for any outcome. Evens means that the side you are backing is twice as likely to win as in the match where each outcome is equally likely.

Was a home win really as likely as both draw and away win put together there? Clearly not.

Any people saying 1.65 is value...you could play that game 5 times and you'd still be making a loss if Newcastle won 3 of them.
By:
CJ70
When: 11 Nov 12 20:43

Nov 11, 2012 -- 12:53PM, Rowan86 wrote:


I am if I can find better prices. I haven't seen these priority prices. I'll believe it when I see them.You are mathematically wrong in your approach. I can prove that whilst you waffle on about "how exchanges work".


You don't understand what an exchange does and so you just punt on who you think will win.

The difference between us is that if we both had a strong belief that Newcastle would be winning after 30 mins. I'd play it and you'd complain that Betfair didn't have a market up.

As I say good luck to you in what you do, but you'd be better off learning how exchange betting works.

By:
sofaking
When: 11 Nov 12 21:47

Nov 11, 2012 -- 5:04PM, kenilworth wrote:


He's too ugly.


that's why Harry Redknapp didn't get the job.

By:
Rowan86
When: 11 Nov 12 22:55
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Nov 11, 2012 -- 12:53PM, Rowan86 wrote:

I am if I can find better prices. I haven't seen these priority prices. I'll believe it when I see them.You are mathematically wrong in your approach. I can prove that whilst you waffle on about "how exchanges work".


You don't understand what an exchange does and so you just punt on who you think will win.

The difference between us is that if we both had a strong belief that Newcastle would be winning after 30 mins. I'd play it and you'd complain that Betfair didn't have a market up.[/quote]
No, the difference is that you wouldn't care about the value of the bets you made pre kick-off and at 30 mins, because you'd fixated on the idea that you're just making a bet on the first 30 mins of the game.

You'd be like right, I'll make my pre kick-off back of Newcastle. Who cares if it's a bad value bet? I'm going to lay-off after 30 mins if they're ahead.

If the price pre-kick off is poor value, then it's mathematically impossible for there to be more value in the trade over the 30 mins than there would be from simply waiting for newcastle to score and then laying them. I'm more than happy to write a proof of that.
By:
Rowan86
When: 11 Nov 12 23:10
Sorry. Need to amend the last paragraph. It should have read:

If the price pre-kick off is poor value, then it's mathematically impossible for there to be more value in the trade over the 30 mins than there would be from simply waiting to see if Newcastle are ahead after 30 mins and laying them.
By:
Rowan86
When: 11 Nov 12 23:22
When I say "value in the trade", I mean value in attempting the trade if you get what I mean.

If this scenario repeated itself every weekend for a large number of weeks, the trader probably does worse than someone that just lays Newcastle if they're ahead after 30 mins, assuming the pre kick-off price is always poor, irrespective of how likely it is that Newcastle are going to be ahead after 30 mins.
By:
donny osmond
When: 11 Nov 12 23:52
Evens doesn't seem to be decent price when this ref is in town

Spot of after timing  but his style isn't suited to our game
By:
Rowan86
When: 11 Nov 12 23:55
I'm pleased you've found some kind of explanation for that disaster. I feel sick about it.
By:
sofaking
When: 11 Nov 12 23:58

Nov 11, 2012 -- 11:55PM, Rowan86 wrote:


I'm pleased you've found some kind of explanation for that disaster. I feel sick about it.


Did you overstake Rowan? Cry

By:
Rowan86
When: 11 Nov 12 23:59
I stake small on each event. It doesn't make sense to bet a lot each time. I feel a lot more sick as a Newcastle fan than I do about the loss of money.
By:
donny osmond
When: 12 Nov 12 00:00
Wasn't pleasant to watch, that's for sure

Cry
By:
Rowan86
When: 12 Nov 12 00:03
It was painful to watch.
By:
sofaking
When: 12 Nov 12 00:04

Nov 11, 2012 -- 11:59PM, Rowan86 wrote:


I stake small on each event. It doesn't make sense to bet a lot each time. I feel a lot more sick as a Newcastle fan than I do about the loss of money.


Ok I didn't know you were a Newcastle fan.   Very poor result for you lot. Like Spurs losing to Wigan at home. Cry

By:
JOCI Club
When: 12 Nov 12 00:07
OP's posts must be viewed with scepticism going forward after this performance.
By:
donny osmond
When: 12 Nov 12 00:08
Worse than that, saying as alladyce is ex manager, and he keeps winning up here !
By:
Rowan86
When: 12 Nov 12 00:18
Yep was similar to that. Couldn't believe you lost to Wigan. Suppose it shows it can happen to good teams though!

Yeah, extra kick in the teeth losing to ex players and an ex manager. Did you go to Brugge Donny? I went to Brugge without a ticket and Liverpool away on Sun.
By:
CJ70
When: 12 Nov 12 10:30

Nov 11, 2012 -- 10:55PM, Rowan86 wrote:


[CJ70 Date Joined: 26 Nov 11 Add contact | Send message When: 11 Nov 12 20:43 Joined: Date Joined: 26 Nov 11 | Topic/replies: 4,476 | Blogger: CJ70's blog Nov 11, 2012 -- 12:53PM, Rowan86 wrote:I am if I can find better prices. I haven't seen these priority prices. I'll believe it when I see them.You are mathematically wrong in your approach. I can prove that whilst you waffle on about "how exchanges work".You don't understand what an exchange does and so you just punt on who you think will win.The difference between us is that if we both had a strong belief that Newcastle would be winning after 30 mins. I'd play it and you'd complain that Betfair didn't have a market up.


No, the difference is that you wouldn't care about the value of the bets you made pre kick-off and at 30 mins, because you'd fixated on the idea that you're just making a bet on the first 30 mins of the game.You'd be like right, I'll make my pre kick-off back of Newcastle. Who cares if it's a bad value bet? I'm going to lay-off after 30 mins if they're ahead.If the price pre-kick off is poor value, then it's mathematically impossible for there to be more value in the trade over the 30 mins than there would be from simply waiting for newcastle to score and then laying them. I'm more than happy to write a proof of that.


I'm really shocked at how little you understand on this.

There's a Russian second division game that I'll be betting on this afternoon. I think the game will go overs but I'll be backing unders. Sheer madness eh?

By:
donny osmond
When: 12 Nov 12 10:33
dont do away games these days, was tempted by bordeaux because i love it there but cant get away, and mrs is stuck at work too.


competition is a bit of a joke with teams made up of mainly reserve players, still
a few days in brugges can be fun without any football, and it was great of them to
see sense when newcastle mp got involved and open up a few more terraces to our fans
and stick up a big screen in town.
By:
donny osmond
When: 12 Nov 12 10:35
maybe the warm reception the brugges fans got in newcastle helped shame club brugges to do something too !!!
By:
book
When: 12 Nov 12 11:23
any sign of tobermory,what a mug,we were above them before the game & further ahead after the game,he still probably backs liverpool away at odds on every game,thinking dalglish & rush are still playing,haha.
By:
Rowan86
When: 12 Nov 12 22:31

I'm really shocked at how little you understand on this.

There's a Russian second division game that I'll be betting on this afternoon. I think the game will go overs but I'll be backing unders. Sheer madness eh?


It's not about whether you think the game's going to go overs, it's about whether you think backing unders is good value.

It was obviously madness if you thought unders was bad value and backed it.

By:
Rowan86
When: 12 Nov 12 22:33
Yeah, I was really pleased about the big screen. Was impressed by that. Did we give them a warm welcome? I thought there were fights?
By:
mesmerised
When: 12 Nov 12 22:39
So he got a tip wrong so what, I've seen worse tips, and newcastle at home to wet sham was value at that price.
By:
donny osmond
When: 12 Nov 12 22:41
maybes was rowan, the ones i saw were happy with their day in newcastle, maybe it kicked off later, dont know tbh

i suppose you'll always get some nutters attracted into it, still plenty of bother if you know where to look
By:
tobermory
When: 12 Nov 12 22:41
lol Book, sure i already posted after the match

West Ham i'll be amazed if they finish above Newcastle , hardly played anyone decent yet
By:
CJ70
When: 12 Nov 12 22:44

Nov 12, 2012 -- 10:31PM, Rowan86 wrote:


I'm really shocked at how little you understand on this. There's a Russian second division game that I'll be betting on this afternoon. I think the game will go overs but I'll be backing unders. Sheer madness eh?It's not about whether you think the game's going to go overs, it's about whether you think backing unders is good value.It was obviously madness if you thought unders was bad value and backed it.


I thought we might have an epiphany then. Not to be.

By:
Rowan86
When: 12 Nov 12 22:48
Can you explain what you were doing on that Russian game? I'll tell you if it was madness.
By:
CJ70
When: 12 Nov 12 23:04

Nov 12, 2012 -- 10:48PM, Rowan86 wrote:


Can you explain what you were doing on that Russian game? I'll tell you if it was madness.


Don't worry I'll save you the bother. I was **** myself for overstaking and greening out for the sake of it.

By:
sofaking
When: 12 Nov 12 23:10

Nov 12, 2012 -- 11:04PM, CJ70 wrote:


Nov 12, 2012 -- 10:48PM, Rowan86 wrote:Can you explain what you were doing on that Russian game? I'll tell you if it was madness.Don't worry I'll save you the bother. I was **** myself for overstaking and greening out for the sake of it.


Happy

By:
Rowan86
When: 12 Nov 12 23:10
Just say literally what your plan was and what you thought of the pre-match price. I'm assuming you made a pre-match bet.
By:
book
When: 12 Nov 12 23:49
anyone decent ? man city & had a perfectly good goal disallowed.
By:
tobermory
When: 13 Nov 12 00:48
still to play Chelsea,United,Spurs,Everton & Liverpool at all + Away to City and Arsenal

Very soft fixtures compared to the other relegation candidates so far
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