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tobermory
18 Sep 12 23:27
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Surprised no preview thread of this  as a big night with Celtic back after 3 years and essential to win this to have any hope of last 16

Celtic 3.80
Draw 3.45
Benfica 2.22


I think the prices look about right, though Benfica would be a bet if they got to 2.35 ish wheras Celtic i'd be requiring around 4.3

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By:
tobermory
When: 18 Sep 12 23:28
actually 4 years since they were in it i think

2008 lost to Aalborg IIRC
By:
Geesyerdosh
When: 18 Sep 12 23:33
Celtic have never lost to Portuguese opposition at home - 9 wins and 1 draw

May I present Sir Neil Lennon Laugh


Benfica won't lose.
By:
hernani
When: 18 Sep 12 23:33
Benfica price is to low, they have pretty much no midfielders, an adapted winger (Melgarejo) in the left of the defense, the only right defender (Maxi Pereira) is suspended and they will play with a center back there, their captain Luisão (center back) is also suspended.
By:
sofiakenny
When: 18 Sep 12 23:35
hernani..thank you for the information
i can reciprocate..celtic are pish.
By:
debaser1878
When: 18 Sep 12 23:35
0-2.
By:
hernani
When: 18 Sep 12 23:37
Alright then, your money, do as you please :)
By:
tobermory
When: 18 Sep 12 23:40
good info Hernani
By:
Footiefan111
When: 18 Sep 12 23:42
as soon as celtic face a team that can match them they crumble, i expect 0-3
By:
Biscuit1979
When: 18 Sep 12 23:43
What do you mean they have no midfielders?

Aimar, Cesar, Perez, Ola John, Salvio all seem pretty capable midfielders to me.

Whoever plays out of Cardozo, Nolito and Rodrigo will be a handful up front as well, and they have new signing Lima from Braga too. Actually can he play or is he cup tied?

Benfica might be lacking at the back but i just think they have far too much going forward for Celtic to deal with. They have a defence marshalled by Mulgrew and Kelvin Wilson Laugh
By:
sofiakenny
When: 18 Sep 12 23:43
the only worry is benfica happy with a point
light years ahead on ability
By:
hernani
When: 18 Sep 12 23:49
Aimar - hardly lasts one half, and withthis coach pretty much plays as an attacker - doesn't help on defense
Cesar - He is originally a winger, currently does what Aimar does, but is capable of a full match
Perez - Winger, hardly ever plays
Salvio - Winger
Olah John - Winger, only a couple of games in pre season

And you're forgetting Matic, likely to be starting the game. A very bellow average midfielder, with only a few games last season.

None of this players is capable of helping in the defense, which as I explained above lacks two starting XI players, and will have two adapted players on the sides.

Also, until 2 weeks ago, the midfielders where Javi Garcia (moved to City) and Witsel (moved to Zenit). None of the above guys (except Aimar) ever played in the midfield.
By:
Biscuit1979
When: 18 Sep 12 23:56
Fair points, however i still think they'll be too good going forward for Celtic's defence to deal with
By:
tobermory
When: 18 Sep 12 23:57
Are you a Benfica Fan , Hernani?  We don't usually get this level of knowledge on here Mischief
By:
tobermory
When: 18 Sep 12 23:59
Maybe Biscuit.

Certainly i think they will get the chance to come forward . Celtic in The CL under Strachan were painful to watch, with the negativity.

Lennon may not be a great manager but he seems to have a go at the opposition regardless, so should be a decent game.
By:
hernani
When: 19 Sep 12 00:00
I'm Portuguese, I know portuguese soccer, I know Benfica, not so Much celtic.

Benfica has a very attacking mentality but their coach is known for choosing very unbalanced starting XIs even with the squad at their full force. He will struggle this match for sure, but if things go the right way, they may be capable of soring lots of goals, but I can also see them suffering at least one.

Just trying to offer some piece of advice here, not advertising it as free money or anything like that. Cross this info with what you guys know about Celtic and make your minds :)
By:
Biscuit1979
When: 19 Sep 12 00:01
hernani - is Lima allowed to play?

A couple of sites say he is, but he played in the qualifier for Braga, so surely he'd be cup tied?
By:
sofiakenny
When: 19 Sep 12 00:01
ty hernani..you dont realise how crap celtic are...they are poor
By:
hernani
When: 19 Sep 12 00:04
Biscuit, I believe rules changed, you can play in the groups stage even if you played the qualifying for a different team. I don't think he will start though.

And really, I have no clue how crap they are, was planning to watch them Saturday, but didn't get out of bed in time :)
By:
mactheknife
When: 19 Sep 12 00:05
Celtic will probably lose a goal at some stage during the 90 mins & it is doubtful that they will score 2 on the night, a lay of celtic is probably the way to go unless you fancy Benfica strongly.
By:
TheChaser
When: 19 Sep 12 00:09
Celtic have beaten Benfica twice in last 6 year at parkhead in groups
By:
hernani
When: 19 Sep 12 00:10
and Porto too
By:
hernani
When: 19 Sep 12 00:11
I mean, they also beat Porto not long ago, 2005 I believe
By:
hernani
When: 19 Sep 12 00:11
one year after Porto won the CL
By:
TheChaser
When: 19 Sep 12 00:12
Think its only 1 defeat in 15 home group games at parkhead and that was Barcelona with Larsson
By:
TheChaser
When: 19 Sep 12 00:13
porto was 2001 and not sure if played them again

in they 15 games beat ac milan when milan where champions
By:
sofiakenny
When: 19 Sep 12 00:13
what happened in the past has zero relevance to NOW
By:
colonelll
When: 19 Sep 12 00:13
considering celtics recent form Benefica is a delicious value
By:
TheChaser
When: 19 Sep 12 00:14
alos juve, benfica twice,lyon , bayern munich have all went and never won
By:
sofiakenny
When: 19 Sep 12 00:15
CHASER post your bet please..thanks
By:
hernani
When: 19 Sep 12 00:18
I think that the past always have some relevance (lets call it 2% of the all cake). Those kind of things float in players heads, there's always that record to break, or in Celtics case, that feeling of invincibility in their home stadium, etc, etc.
By:
TheChaser
When: 19 Sep 12 00:18
kenny not bet yet
By:
TheChaser
When: 19 Sep 12 00:19
but one thing for sure is i wont be backing benfica
By:
TheChaser
When: 19 Sep 12 00:22
the record may be in the past but i guarantee when celtics away from home the previous away form will be brought into it.0 wins in 15 lol
By:
Platini
When: 19 Sep 12 00:25
What do we think, lads? Celtic price to come in a bit from here ?  I want to lay them but I'd hate to miss out on a lower price.
By:
sofiakenny
When: 19 Sep 12 00:25
didnt thet beat helsingborgs away?
By:
hernani
When: 19 Sep 12 00:26
I'm waiting for tomorrow newspapers to make a final decision. I'll post any relevant info here if you guys want to.
By:
sofiakenny
When: 19 Sep 12 00:27
moanrinho is mates with benfica coach..has bigged them up
if they cant beat the tic he will look rather foolish.
By:
TheChaser
When: 19 Sep 12 00:27
in the groups kenny 0 in 15

this year beat helinski away also
By:
hernani
When: 19 Sep 12 00:30
Not really true sofia, benfica's coach likes people to think that :)

In any case, if you guys are looking for a price drop on celtic, Luisão punishment in CL was only declared today, so the market hasn't quit adapted yet, I believe Celtic will drop a bit.
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