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Captain Christy
Date Joined: 08 Mar 03 Add contact | Send message 13 Sep 12 20:50 Joined: 08 Mar 03 | Topic/replies: 4,599 | Blogger: Captain Christy's blog The whole 'money' issue is almost the whole reason why they were covering it up in the first bleedin' place, now you are asking about the compensation, fcuk the compensation, just prosecute those responsible. but you are the person who keeps bringing up compensation, not other posters, not the families, as I have already shown, you made a huge incorrect leap from what Trevor Hicks said about bringing legal action, and you straight away associated it with compensation, that says far more about your mentality, than the families motives. But I will try again, see if it sinks in this time. Pursuing Legal action does not mean pursuing compensation. 8 words Read them Read them again You are the one who has banged on about the families wanting financial compensation, your evidence for this does not exist, you have misunderstood legal action to mean compensation. Honestly, its not a hard concept to grasp, put aside your bias based on stupid football allegiance and engage your brain. Its not hard The issue is criminal liability. The families want those responsible for the cover up held accountable and punished. They havent mentioned compensation, you did, you say fcuk the compensation, just prosecute those responsible. And that is EXACTLY the attitude of the families Its really not hard to understand. |
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its a no brainer
think cc is trying to score brownie points using football rivalry. imagine if one of his kids were killed in a car crash by the fault of the other driver. he is saying he shouldnt get compensation or look to get it. he would get it regardless. very poor fishing. |
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Reading through all of this, and having been reminded earlier this evening by TV of the UNPUNISHED killing of Ian Tomlinson by PC Harwood, there is only one conclusion left: we need a fukcin revolution.
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Well let's look at the time line on this thread, we went from people making threats for my having the gall to suggest this was partly about compensation to saying that they should naturally be getting compensation.
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CC, you've shown youself to be a bright person earlier on this thread. Now just shut the fukk up, please. You are not doing anything to advance the cause of those at Heysel nor alleviate the present pain of the Hillsbrough victims and their families. You are being hurtful for the sake of it. Causing pain for the sake of it. Listen to your conscience and shut the fukk up, please?
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CC, you've shown youself to be a bright person earlier on this thread. Now just shut the fukk up, please. You are not doing anything to advance the cause of those at Heysel nor alleviate the present pain of the Hillsbrough victims and their families. You are being hurtful for the sake of it. Causing pain for the sake of it. Listen to your conscience and shut the fukk up, please?
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i,m interested whether the captain thinks they are
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Superb write-up donnyosmond, really summed it all up.
Really vivid memories of Hillsborough and that fateful day. It was the day a little bit of my love for football died, it was the day I realised that Shankley's famous quote about football being more serious than life and death had a hollow ring to it. Although to be fair to the great man he would never have meant it to be compared to the enormity of what happened that day. The extent of the cover-up is truly mind-boggling and the horror of it all seems even greater today, to think 41 fans lay on the pitch that day gasping for life and through the sheer ineptitude of the relevant services that day were abandoned and left to die is horrific beyond words. There was a very big element of them and us between the police and football supporters in those days and their immediate reaction to the disaster that day was to cover their own collective @rses and those lies and corruption went all the way to the top. Hopefully now that the truth has eventually been uncovered those responsible will be pursued through the courts and on conviction (probably on the very minor charge of perverting the course of justice) will be made to relinquish all their employment and pension rights. I say hopefully as my faith in the legal system is not very strong today. JFT96 - WNWA |
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you keep avoiding the question i asked
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I believe tainting the memory of those who died with a money angle is WRONG it is as simple as that.
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lets try again do you think the families are entitled to compensation
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Captain Christy 13 Sep 12 20:58 Joined: 08 Mar 03 | Topic/replies: 4,601 | Blogger: Captain Christy's blog
and that's it, no subsequent pursuit of compensation will follow? Who knows ? I know for absolute fact some families wont pursue any financial compensation, because I happen to know a few involved. But unless someone has asked all, then your question is unanswerable at this point. However your assumption pursuing legal action means pursuing compensation, is wrong You have assumed from the get go the motivation was financial for the families, you are wrong. You say compensation shouldnt be a factor in the families calculations, yet you are the only person who keeps bringing it up. The families certainly havent. Park your football rivalry brain for 5minutes and think |
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compensation virtual certain i would imagine and rightly so wouldn';t you want it.
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As I mentioned earlier Pootle the attempt to frame St Johns Ambulance, the local council as well as the police clearly points the way that this was driving towards making a claim against those organisations which would be able to afford a payout.
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rothko 13 Sep 12 21:11 Joined: 10 Jan 04 | Topic/replies: 947 | Blogger: rothko's blog
lets try again do you think the families are entitled to compensation its not a hard question why wont you answer it |
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dear me St Johns Ambulance able to afford a payout?
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What are St Johns Ambulance accused of?
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the only thing pointing to compensation is christys assumptions at this stage
either stupid or on a wind up or both |
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lads I just want him to answer my question its not much to ask
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lads I just want him to answer my question its not much to ask
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So now it is about compensation? I wish you lot would get your stories straight.
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people can get compensation without that being the objective of the victim you numpty
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captain why won't you answer the question
its your answer i want stop avoiding it |
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Who do you think should be paying the compensation Rothko? When do you reckon victims of Heysel will be getting compensation?
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Captain Christy 13 Sep 12 21:16 Joined: 08 Mar 03 | Topic/replies: 4,604 | Blogger: Captain Christy's blog
As I mentioned earlier Pootle the attempt to frame St Johns Ambulance, the local council as well as the police clearly points the way that this was driving towards making a claim against those organisations which would be able to afford a payout. I dont know of attempts to frame St Johns Ambulance or the council, I've not heard that anywhere, the police blocked ambulances from entering the stadium, I'm not sure how St Johns come into it. The Police ? not framed at all - 101% guilty as has been shown this week 150+ falsified police statements That is HUGE in itself But the instruction from up top to falsify statements... that is extraordinary. It is endemic corruption. The FA right now will be worried as they are open from all sides, no safety certificate which leaves them massively culpable, and could see numerous sides (ie the police) seek compensation from the FA, and could see the FA under investigation by UEFA or FIFA as it brings into question their entire ability to run the game in this country. But, there has been no mention of compensation, its just speculation in your posts. The families want those responsible for the cover up to be held accountable They also want a revised enquiry into what exactly happened that day. |
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You see, anyone can ask questions and demand answers, it really doesn't matter what I think.
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captain
you answer a question with a question i refer you to my previous posts do you think the families are entitled to compensation |
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There main objective has been for justice .
But , if Elton John received 1 million from the scum newspaper for reporting a false story where he was meant to have had bym fun with a rent boy , then the families are in for a very nice payout and why the hell not . The people of Liverpool will fight and fight and fight . |
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you answer my questions rothko, you are not a child to be constantly asking questions.
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Here you go Pootle, got the st.john's ambulance bit wrong maybe.
Legal representatives for the families said that South Yorkshire police, Sheffield city council and Sheffield Wednesday FC could all face charges for corporate manslaughter. |
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Legal representatives for the families said that South Yorkshire police, Sheffield city council and Sheffield Wednesday FC could all face charges for corporate manslaughter.
so from that you've deduced the families objective includes money complete conjecture |
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captain
Ive asked you one question thats all - not a difficult one your inability to answer it says a lot about you and all that you have been spouting on here |
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Captain Christy, you are the one who mentions compensation
Then when you get an answer about that, you say, look its about compensation Yet your evidence for this is none existent Drop your football rivalry nonsense, and think You dont think it should be about compensation - neither do the families You think it should be about legally holding those repsonsible and accountable - so do the families Your assumption its about compensation is completely baseless Thing is, I know deep down you are either Trolling or Stupid or Just deeply blinded by football rivalry I suspect you arent stupid, and I cant be bothered to argue with the other two attitudes any longer. |
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Oh right so they plan to send Sheff Wed to jail then do they?
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Well done Pootle, you are proved wrong so give up because it is ME! who is stupid???
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the FA staged the game.
like regarding heysel i would not at all be suprised if someone from that organisation went to prison. |
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captain
you are really embarrassing yourself now Ive wasted enough time on you you're a real sad act |
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Oh right so they plan to send Sheff Wed to jail then do they?
if you're on a wind up - its shameful that you choose this subject if you mean this as a genuine question - youre just too stupid to deserve my time |
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re. Heysel, i believe an official(s) in charge that day served prison sentences along with the convicted Liverpool fans
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They are prosecuting these big organisations to get the money out of them, regardless of the fact that most people believe that the responsibility lies with the match commander.
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