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Mr Eboue
20 Aug 12 21:17
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The richest club in the world have to play this joke.

I'd be crying if I was a Man utd fan..

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By:
doridoru
When: 20 Aug 12 21:23
Hes been shocking for years, must have something on Fergie...
By:
T.M.0
When: 20 Aug 12 21:24
DawsyReturns Joined: 17 May 11
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Jesus christ. I never realised Xavi was so over rated. Carrick can do the same job as him but people don't recognize him beause he is English. If you slotted Carrick in to that Barca team nobody would tell the difference. I think Scholes is miles better than Xavi is
By:
ph.
When: 20 Aug 12 21:31
sorry lads but Carrick just keeping the shirt warm for Fellaini if Fergie has any sense.
By:
Return_Of_Dawsy
When: 02 Jan 13 17:03
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
R0ykeane
When: 13 Jan 13 19:03
Laugh
By:
berto77
When: 13 Jan 13 19:07
2nd only to RVP as Man Utds best player this season. Devil
By:
the dza
When: 13 Jan 13 19:19
Is Dawsy laughing at the original post or his own player comparisons? Laugh

ps. Carrick has always been a good player, but not so great if he gets pressed hard. Teams should do that to him a lot more, he struggles when put under pressure imo.
By:
R0ykeane
When: 13 Jan 13 19:23
He's a pure passer DZA...only as good as his options. He plays alot of passes standing so as you aware he hasnt really got the mobility to get away from as many tight spots as say an iniesta, especially from a static position.

I maintain he'd look an absolute world beater in that Barcelona side. Every player has two or three options absolutely every time.

I don't think  he's allergic to pressing seen him play well in plenty of games where teams are pressing but where he looks worse is when the team as a whole are not performing and he does not have options.
By:
the dza
When: 13 Jan 13 19:27
He could play the Busquets role for Barca, he certainly couldn't out-perform Xavi. He is not in his realm.

Mind you, Busquets is quite an under-rated player by many people. I don't think Barca would be any hurry to trade him for Carrick, but there isn't much in it either way.
By:
R0ykeane
When: 13 Jan 13 19:29
He'd coast it behind Xavi and Iniesta with Messi floating and Alves bombing on...absolutely coast it. Might even get a sniff of the national team too as one of the few englishmen who recognise the value of passing to someone in the same shirt.
By:
the dza
When: 13 Jan 13 19:33
I don't think Spain or Barca would miss a beat if they swapped Busquets with him. Dawsy comparing him to Xavi though is just...Laugh

IMO Busquets and Carrick are quite similar in their passing, both very good at playing first time passes off of either foot. Busquets probably doesn't have as good a range of passing as Carrick, but he does have the Barca education, which puts him infront in terms of fitting into their team.
By:
magnum180
When: 13 Jan 13 19:35
The guy is tripe but to be fair he has played well recently, why?

Because Cleverely does everything he doesn't and more
By:
Ahoy 1982
When: 14 Jan 13 02:49
Xavi recently said that Busquets is the best 1 touch player he has ever seen.
By:
Gooner4Life
When: 14 Jan 13 03:08
RIDICULOUS COMMENTS. ABSOLUTE BANDWAGON GARBAGE. ABSOLUTE CRAP!
By:
what do i do now?
When: 14 Jan 13 03:25
Ahoy 1982 14 Jan 13 02:49
Xavi recently said that Busquets is the best 1 touch player he has ever seen.


But Xavi has never seen me play, which makes his opinion as much use as Anne Frank's drumkit.
By:
RMB ©
When: 14 Jan 13 11:39
Sir Alex keeps playing this useless player. I don't get it. No wonder we are only 7 points ahead at the top of the League. Sir Alex needs to win more than 66% of the hardest league in the world, damn him, he's rubbish, we need Wenger and Coquelin to fill the Sir Alex and Carrick void. FFS.
By:
Biscuit1979
When: 14 Jan 13 12:25
Decent enough player and good enough to keep United going in the league but against the very top players he struggles. Witness the 2009 and 2011 CL finals as proof of this. Comparisons with any Barca player are a joke, he's far too slow and immobile to play their fast paced high pressing game. He was subbed off breathing out of his arse in the 2011 final because he couldn't keep up with them.

And yes Fergie does keep picking him. But he also picked Phil Neville and John O'Shea well over 200 times and they both won numerous trophies.

Most people could easily name a dozen better midfielders than him.

If he steps up in the CL ties against Real then i may have to re-consider this opinion but until then no chance.
By:
blöder Wichser
When: 14 Jan 13 12:27
Had the Hobbit and the worst Brazilian since Stevie Wonder had a go at his wife's muff in his back pocket yesterday
By:
R0ykeane
When: 14 Jan 13 12:44
Decent enough player and good enough to keep United going in the league but against the very top players he struggles. Witness the 2009 and 2011 CL finals as proof of this.

Nonsense...of the highest degree. He suffered as a result of team as a whole being totally outclassed. If you swopped Busquets and Carrick on the day do you seriously think Busquets would look anything other than totally swamped and Carrick would look anything but in total control?

Crazy
By:
Biscuit1979
When: 14 Jan 13 12:52
Your copying and pasting appears to have finished a bit early. Did you not read the next 2 sentences?
By:
R0ykeane
When: 14 Jan 13 13:01
Scapegoat for overall failure of the team. Like I said if you move him over to the Barcelona side for the game and Sergio over to the utd team only the demented think the outcome and flow of the game would be altered.
By:
Biscuit1979
When: 14 Jan 13 13:15
Busquets is vastly under rated by those who don't see and appreciate the work he does.

Obviously the plaudits go to Messi, Xavi and Iniesta but all three would admit that Busquets is the engine of the team.

2 of Barca's worst performances this season were home and away to Celtic. Who missed both games? Busquets.

Also let's not forget Barca were willing to let Yaya Toure (who is miles better than Carrick) leave because they had Busquets.

It's laughable for anyone to think Carrick could cope with the style of football they play. He's not quick enough for a start.
By:
R0ykeane
When: 14 Jan 13 13:19
I'm not attacking Busquets as such but you are overstating matters.

If Carrick had Xavi and inestia infront of him and Messi dropping off with Alaves bombing up the flank you'd be amazed how accomplished he'd look.

We are not going to agree on this so lets agree to disagree.
By:
JamDav1982
When: 14 Jan 13 13:32
Carrick is having a good season but Busquets is in a completely different league to him!
By:
Biscuit1979
When: 14 Jan 13 13:41
True we'll probably never agree on this but if Toure was allowed to leave because of his emergence and Mascherano has had to re-invent himself as a centre back to get in the side then i fail to see how Carrick can be compared to him.

Why has he played so rarely for England if he's that good? A succession of managers overlooked him. 26 caps in 12 years and only 12 caps since 2008 in what have probably been his 'peak' years.
By:
JamDav1982
When: 14 Jan 13 13:43
R0y this may be your worst ever shout.

Carrick as good as Busquets!!!

Busquets would walk into any starting line up in the world and any manager would pay 40m for him in an instant.

He is light years ahead of Carrick as a player ffs.
By:
R0ykeane
When: 14 Jan 13 13:57


Biscuit1979
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True we'll probably never agree on this but if Toure was allowed to leave because of his emergence and Mascherano has had to re-invent himself as a centre back to get in the side then i fail to see how Carrick can be compared to him.

Why has he played so rarely for England if he's that good? A succession of managers overlooked him. 26 caps in 12 years and only 12 caps since 2008 in what have probably been his 'peak' years.


Firstly you need to recognise that Carrick plays a much more similar role to Busquets than either Toure or Mascherano would for Barcelona. So in that context he'd be a better player than either of the those two for the balance of the Barcelona team.

Secondly England do not value this type of player. We've seen it countless times over the years. He'd probably have more caps if he were spanish despite not being a starter!

I don't get it myself, he should have been given a run in the england team for sure..instead we prefer the likes of scott parker and gareth barry.

I'd guess that Carrick is more successful at club level because, as a result of the foreign influence there is a little more around him in terms of european style of play. His passes are going to be better appreciated and used by such sides.

I don't really know though because he's never been given a proper go. He came in against was it columbia and put in a man of the match performance and got dropped next game one world cup I remember. We've never been interested in picking the best side, just the 'best' players.
By:
JamDav1982
When: 14 Jan 13 14:02
Barcelona's tactics rely on a player like Busquets being as comfortable on the ball in tight areas as Busquets is. While he has the defensive mind to close off the opposition when he needs to.

Carrick has none of that.

He is a good passer of the ball when given time but there is nothing else about him that suggests he is anywhere near the standard good enough to play for Barcelona.

Come back when Carrick starts pulling out these moves in a game -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrXp5HpeNsg
By:
RMB ©
When: 14 Jan 13 14:10
Comparing Barcelona and anyone just seems ridiculous. Carrick is a great player, and is one of Fergies main men. We're talking about the best team in England, and the best manager in the world.
By:
RMB ©
When: 14 Jan 13 14:13
Busquets, Xavi, Iniesta are light years ahead of Carrick. Barcelona and La Liga are ahead of United and the EPL by a distance.
By:
RMB ©
When: 14 Jan 13 14:15

Jan 14, 2013 -- 1:15PM, Biscuit1979 wrote:


Busquets is vastly under rated by those who don't see and appreciate the work he does.Obviously the plaudits go to Messi, Xavi and Iniesta but all three would admit that Busquets is the engine of the team.2 of Barca's worst performances this season were home and away to Celtic. Who missed both games? Busquets.Also let's not forget Barca were willing to let Yaya Toure (who is miles better than Carrick) leave because they had Busquets. It's laughable for anyone to think Carrick could cope with the style of football they play. He's not quick enough for a start.


^ This is what I was trying to say.

By:
skint-gambler
When: 14 Jan 13 14:20
I always thought that Dawsy was the most delusional glory hunting Rag on here but it seems Roy is up there with him
By:
JamDav1982
When: 14 Jan 13 14:21
R0y standard argument when he comes up with these absurd opinions is that we are all thick and dont understand.

Expect that from him soon.
By:
skint-gambler
When: 14 Jan 13 14:24
The only thing I miss about forumite Jason Dodd is that he used to trounce and embarass ROy every day on here
By:
R0ykeane
When: 14 Jan 13 15:44
JamDav1982
14 Jan 13 14:02
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Barcelona's tactics rely on a player like Busquets being as comfortable on the ball in tight areas as Busquets is. While he has the defensive mind to close off the opposition when he needs to.

Carrick has none of that


Proof that you remain one of the most clueless around.
By:
JamDav1982
When: 14 Jan 13 17:30
R0y you think Carrick is as good as Busquets.

I would pipe down as you have already been made to look like a fool.

Carrick does not have anywhere near Busquets ability on the ball and is nowhere near as good as him defensively.

Keep contributing to these threads and making yourself an even bigger imbecile.
By:
the dza
When: 14 Jan 13 21:27
Carrick is a very good player defensively, imo. I base that on watching him play for Spurs.

Busquets is a very good player, but I don't think there is a huge gulf between him and Carrick.

I also think Yaya Toure is a much better player than either of them.
By:
JamDav1982
When: 14 Jan 13 22:08

Jan 14, 2013 -- 9:27PM, the dza wrote:


Carrick is a very good player defensively, imo. I base that on watching him play for Spurs.Busquets is a very good player, but I don't think there is a huge gulf between him and Carrick.I also think Yaya Toure is a much better player than either of them.


Busquets is a better player than Toure quite easily in the DM role.

If you want to compare them as box players then Toure would be better but that is not Busquets position.

As for Carrick, he would not be in the top twenty DM's in the world right now and Busquets will go down as one of the best ever in that position.

By:
R0ykeane
When: 14 Jan 13 22:11
I also think Yaya Toure is a much better player than either of them.

Not in that position for that team.
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