CONFIRMED: Aston Villa owner Randy Lerner's jet has landed in Kristiansund again this afternoon.

It's that 100% certainly true that Horangi has left all the prices for everyone else to take!!
What a guy!!

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May 22, 2012 -- 3:39PM, brngtwt wrote:

It's that 100% certainly true that Horangi has left all the prices for everyone else to take!!What a guy!!

I have a large exposure on this market and have basically reached my limit.  imo the current price available here at this moment is laughable.

imo the price on Ole will get bigger as villa interview other candidates.

great pic of the plane by the way.

Anyone got a link to the market on here, I can never find the damn thing?

http://beta.betfair.com/football/market?id=1.105733380

By the looks of it I'd say the interview process is over.  But these markets bring all kinds of twists and turns so I don't rule out anything. 

Anyways I'd say Solskjaer looks pretty certain, I don't see why he and his wife would be meeting Molde's owner today unless it had something to do with his future.  And if Faulkner is over in Norway as well then it doesn't take much to put 2 and 2 together. 


VD you can just search for it, its in specials on the football page.

Bold move by Villa to be appointing an untried (at PL level) manager in their current position.

Its a brave move but I think a good one! We need a guy with fresh ideas and attacking tactics, were an attacking team not a defensive one!

Im all for him, wouldn't mind AVB or Di matteo or Martinez either but can't see us getting them.

Ole said this to a reporter in Norway. 

"You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure that out"

When asked what he was going to talk about with Rokke.

Has to be to finalise the deal, probably be announced tomorrow id imagine.

Nice ramp OP.

May 22, 2012 -- 5:05PM, Pete Watermelon wrote:

Nice ramp OP.

Shockingly the odds have hardly budged since the news broke.  Totally baffled what moves these markets.  Sky Sports reporting badly translated press conference quotes equals massive move.  Legitimate substantial developments indicating he's nailed on, zzzzzzzzzz.

And seriously who has been betting on Simon Grayson getting this position? 

who has been betting on Simon Grayson getting this position?

Randy Lerner..

May 22, 2012 -- 6:08PM, Horangi. wrote:

May 22, 2012 --  5:05PM, Pete Watermelon wrote:Nice ramp OP.Shockingly the odds have hardly budged since the news broke.  Totally baffled what moves these markets.  Sky Sports reporting badly translated press conference quotes equals massive move.  Legitimate substantial developments indicating he's nailed on, zzzzzzzzzz.

Perhaps somebody knows something that you don't.

Perhaps.  But the fact is developments today have barely caused any reaction.  Not as if layers and backers are trading high volume.

May 22, 2012 -- 6:41PM, Horangi. wrote:

Perhaps.

Given that the local paper has only just repeated that there are other candidates in the frame and added a new one, what price would you expect him to trade at?

Local paper?  Should I check my latest telegram on the Villa situation? 

And the main writer for that paper has just tweeted a not so subtle message today.

Surely not Darren Bents private jet going to help ole move house?????
SammyF can be the only one who knows for sure.

Surely not Darren Bents private jet going to help ole move house?????
SammyF can be the only one who knows for sure.

Looks like he was offered but declined...

http://www.birminghammail.net/news/top-stories/2012/05/22/exclusive-ole-gunn...

deal off! bail out quick

lllllloooollllll

mr lambert, always keep an eye on the quite ones

Dangerous game this lots of people piled on at odds-on it looked certain then he decides to stay

really - a fact he's staying?

Quite the attention **** Mr. Solskjaer.  Now they move down the list.  I think its more likely to be Martinez than Lambert.

SSN saying Villa made no offer and he's no longer in consideration. I find it hard to believe...I think an offer was made that what the Norwegian press are saying.

May 22, 2012 -- 6:11PM, Horangi. wrote:

And seriously who has been betting on Simon Grayson getting this position? 

GUESS GUESS GUESS and GUESS again brothers.

Martin Jol - who added?

More money on Grayson. Surely not another McCleish shocker.

In no way am I ramping, but this increasingly shaping as a kevin macdonald / sid cowans solution.
It's what the players want.
surely lerner will listen to them over the internet loudmouth supporters?

Does the manager have to come from a lower league team? or newly promoted?

The board have specially said they want a young, dynamic manager. MacDonald doesn't fit this bill, plus he win's the league almost every season with the reserves so they don't want to mess that up.

Wolves said their job wasn't for a novice.

Players love K Mac and sid cowans.
What I was getting at - if this drags, which it willin my view, then beware the price on Kevin Macdonald.

Try

Klinsman
Southgate

Off the wall and match the criteria. Forget Lambert and the obvious choices.

Really who gives a flying t*ss about Aston Villa....A 2 BIT TEAM in the premiership....they are NEVER going to do much more than survive...so WHO cares who their manager is?

His wife probably turned her nose up at all the Asians sat on their doorsteps eating of the floor, Aston isn't the nicest of areas really!

The world of football cares, as is evident.

The real question is who cares about the next WBA manager

iron66 has got the game by the niagras!!!

WBA manager is dormant, they will get Hughton.
And that peeves me.

my world...is claret and blue....different world to AV....i don't care.....might win a cup soon...that's all we got!!!!

AV will never get top 4

nor will WHU

iron66 this is a betting site,noone gives a toss who you support.
if you have some betting insight let it flow.
if not noone cares what you think about villa.

We were close with O'neill when we had Young, Downing and Milner.....a decent manager and a bit of investment and we can challenge again! People are deluded to say we'll never get top 4! Anything can happen in football, look at how well Newcastle did this year, and they havnt exactly got the best team!

West Ham have found their level with Big Sam. Villa wants to take things to the next level with a progressive manager not a dinosaur.

Newcastle/Levante great examples of what can be done without shiit loads of cash

1000-1 SAYS YOU AINT TOP 4 IN 2013 .....answers both your queries brmgtwt & villademon

didn't say wed get it in 2013 did I? We are a long way off at the mo but I would never rule it out!

10,000 to 1....i need a banker for next year....lol

back to the subject - did'nt we have ole gunnar out of the running before making a short price return.

There. Never get over confident. Still some clowns on here feeling the need to take 20. He's not going there! Can't believe there's nobody out there to push it out. Funds will be back by the end of next week. ****s.

just thought i'd let you know....i laid OJS at 1.81

How come his odds are dropping rapidly?

he has been 1.2 mate!!!!

well done iron,now have some positive input into the thread.
go on ....

anything.

he was over 20s a min ago, now he's down to 7.6?

a little birdy told me he is in England to discuss the.........job!!!!

well

i've been laying all the way down from 20.##lots of people "evening out" at ludicrous figures.

this is great money if you can take the ride

will be 50 tomorrow lunch.

not so sure mex ;)

horangi an

Ole...this is money for old rope....I'm out

backed at 20's....laid at 1.8

traded out to 8's....feeling chuffed

Solskjaer move def not happening according to guardian - http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/22/ole-gunnar-solskjaer-aston-vi...

Solskjaer says he doesn't want it and still being backed at 12

Crazy market, back into 10's now - someone's trying to catch a sneaky few free pounds I think.

http://www.tv2.no/sport/fotball/england/premierleague/solskjaer-blir-ikke-aston-villasjef-3787826.html

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has given Aston Villa a message that he is no longer a candidate for the vacant post of manager of the club. This was confirmed by Aston Villa's press officer, Bryan Doogan.

My bank's not big enough, but there's plenty of money to be layed here - when the story's in tomorrow's papers he'll drift like a barge.

What part of Solskjaer is not going to Villa does this market not get? Great lay for people that don't mind tying money up for a week. Slot will be filled by next Friday.

Anyone that's in need of some cash should jump all over it. It's a safe lay now. Just clowns that can't run risk greening up.

ohhhhh, I LOOOOVE manager markets.  I still remember the Friday night when it was reported that Kevin Keagan was at a meeting at a hotel in London.  "He's resigning!!!  They made up!!!" said the forum.

It is reported he emerged 90 minutes later.  Market kept moving in.

I took lays all night.

Saturday morning, it was reported that he was finalizing his severance and essentially had gone to the hotel to tell them to "F*ck off" in person.

Happy days in the Shapeshifter household.  Infact, I am typing on the Mac that I bought that Monday.

Please keep the reports coming

May 23, 2012 -- 10:13AM, SHAPESHIFTER wrote:

ohhhhh, I LOOOOVE manager markets.  I still remember the Friday night when it was reported that Kevin Keagan was at a meeting at a hotel in London.  "He's resigning!!!  They made up!!!" said the forum.It is reported he emerged 90 minutes later.  Market kept moving in.I took lays all night. Saturday morning, it was reported that he was finalizing his severance and essentially had gone to the hotel to tell them to "F*ck off" in person.Happy days in the Shapeshifter household.  Infact, I am typing on the Mac that I bought that Monday. Please keep the reports coming

Word is that the next target is Lambert.  Should go shorter in the next few hours.

Hows that?

£225 still sitting there for OGS at 30.0
Don't be shy....

May 23, 2012 -- 10:32AM, ShirleyKnot wrote:

May 23, 2012 -- 10:13AM, SHAPESHIFTER wrote:ohhhhh, I LOOOOVE manager markets.  I still remember the Friday night when it was reported that Kevin Keagan was at a meeting at a hotel in London.  "He's resigning!!!  They made up!!!" said the forum.It is reported he emerged 90 minutes later.  Market kept moving in.I took lays all night. Saturday morning, it was reported that he was finalizing his severance and essentially had gone to the hotel to tell them to "F*ck off" in person.Happy days in the Shapeshifter household.  Infact, I am typing on the Mac that I bought that Monday. Please keep the reports comingWord is that the next target is Lambert.  Should go shorter in the next few hours.Hows that?

Do you mean a "target" by

a) the media / mainly SkySports Special Ramp Division
b) The media
c) the forum
oh, or
d) the club

Any of the above to your liking.

I get the feeling its Martinez.  They wanted him last year and there's no reason to think they still don't want him now.  Wigan and Whelan seem happy to let him move on.  Even if he was a legitimate candidate for Liverpool surely the reaction of supporters there turned him off and he's thought better of it.  At his age he can have another pit stop before making the jump to a top side and he looks like the type of man who understands this. 

They've said all along they are looking for a young vibrant manager with attacking principles.  Really not a whole lot to look at in this mold.  Have to think AVB unlikely and I'm not sure Lambert is to vibrant. 

If things get weird I wonder if Everton are going to sell Jelavic...

Martinez said no last year, why should he say yes now?

Young vibrant and hungry:  Di Canio, Zola, Freedman just to name a few.

Felt he needed to stick with Wigan and show some loyalty.  Timing seems better now.  I don't know fits the criteria perfectly and getting a few hints he has met with Lerner in the past week.

Those names are Tier 2/Tier 3 type candidates.  Probably got a half look before their cv's were tossed aside.

put your money on sven ;) would be my recommendation

+1

Martinez has shown his loyalty last year by staying with Wigan so if he wanted to move they would still love him, until their late amazing run at the end of the season they were certs to go down and they were struggling! I'm not sure what else Martinez can do with them with no investment!

He wants a big club move and I think now its a perfect time to move to a bigger club such as Villa but who knows what he's thinking.

Anybody else see the press conference yesterday with Lambert?  He got real edgy when the reporter asked him about Holt and then his future.  Very defensive and offered nothing to suggest he's definitely staying.  Don't know why some reports have surmised he's ruled out Villa after that. 

Don't got a clue where this is heading now.

Still think Martinez is most likely though.  And I see AVB might actually have the Liverpool job.

Whats annoying is the Liverpool job being up for grabs aswel. You can guarantee whoever Villa go for, Liverpool will try and snatch!

Makes it interesting.  Surely there are several candidates up for both jobs.  ie ABV, Martinez

would avb or martinez want to go to villa,martinez turned them down last year and will be looking for a bigger job than villa possibly abroad and just dont see avb going to villa.

Martinez isn't exactly wanted, at least by supporters, by the top teams anywhere in the world.  A jump to a upper level team is all he can really ask for imo. 

I find the possibility of AVB heading to Villa not implausible.  Agent keeps talking about a long term project, like he really wants to make sure he avoids a Chelsea type situation again.  With him being so young its not a bad idea to take a job where you'll have better assurances you'll have the time necessary to implement your program.  If successful in 3-4 years he could handpick what club to go to. 

And Villa coming off a disastrous season, expectations so low.  Good situation to jump into.

Does anybody think Villa are monitoring the situation at Chelsea to see if Di Matteo becomes free?

May 23, 2012 -- 6:39PM, GAZO wrote:

would avb or martinez want to go to villa,martinez turned them down last year and will be looking for a bigger job than villa possibly abroad and just dont see avb going to villa.

He's not gonna get much bigger than the Villa job is he unless he's waiting for a club like Barca, Man U, Milan etc to come in for him and they aint gonna take him from Wigan, he needs to step up a level and Villa would be a massive step up!

You can't look at the current league standings and make a judgment, Villa are a massive club! I can't see him rejecting this opportunity again to be honest! He showed his loyalty last time but even he surely knows he can't take Wigan any further.....time to step up to the next level!