ADMIT IT JOSE IS THE BEST MANAGER IN THE WORLD

agreed

Yep. Loses away in Munich in the semi-final

comes back and beats Barcelona in the title match

dont like at all but hats off

What is his record in La Liga against Barcelona? And, for bonus points, how many threads were there claiming his supremacy after each of those humblings?

Distance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PPI90yu2OA

think if he wins champions league with madrid - therefore winning it with 3 different clubs he will go down as one of greatest ever

Martin O'Neil is the best by a country mile.

yep, he's clearly the best manager currently working.

and will be back over here next season, imo. should be entertaining, one way and another.

won the top title in 4 [i think it is] countries, whether or not he wins his 3rd cl with a third differn't club he's still got to be regard4ed as the best.

1st best in the world is alex ferguson, then comes mourinho.

I agree with trackman

2nd best behind SAF

agree fergie is very good, but to do it at differn't clubs like mourinho has is special.

er SAf and aberdeen?

By far the best.

Some mug posted on here recently that they couldn`t see the "special" in the the Special One.

He won the Champions Leagze with a Portuguese team you mug.

everywhere else he went won Cupss/titels.

No-one has a record like that

SAF and aberdeen.........

or did that never happen

mugs

i see fergies boys are out in force, it seems to me that the crux of this is that anywhere he goes he seems to have an immediate impact, and brings about improvement in the short term.and achieves great things.

whether he could sustain it over a long period like fergie i doubt we'll find out, cos he usually wears out his welcome after a while

Jose is indeed special, but what makes Fergie the greatest is the fact that he has re-built teams time and again -- even coming back to see off Mourinho at Chelsea.

And Jose has made Madrid into a fantastic team, but I think their rise is also to do with a slight decline for Barca. Remember, Pellegrini got a record points total with Madrid (96 points) whilst they scored 102 goals only for Barca to get 99 points and win La Liga. Really, Jose has just continued where Pellegrini left off, whilst Barca have dropped down a bit and become more human.

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Martin O'Neil is the best by a country mile.

I have been around for a while and yet I have never read a post like that before..

Trackman you should be sectioned or perhaps you have just been released....

Let's not underestimate what 'arry is doing at spurs

All, Dawsey is a closet chelsea fan...he said it on twitter a few weeks ago.

the difference is, if you took fergie and put him in charge of inter, no way would they win serie a, let alone the CL.

what the fark are u on about steve

he will become the greatest ever when he come to Man UTD and wind everything with them as well. Only jealous people can say he is not the best.

Mourinho is a great demagogy mass conductor, but talkin just about football he's a fraud, tonight Real Madrid did not create anything and he made the team defending in the second half just and Barsa had the game in his hands, it was just a matter of time for barsa to score the way Madrid was in the second half, a mistake after the goal and their great players have saved him but his idea was really bad and almost cost him the match.

In la liga there are only 2 teams who have quality head and shoulders above all others.

So really its a face-off between Mourinho and Guardiola because the rest dont have a hope of competing.

In that face-off he has mostly come off 2nd best, tonight being an exception rather than the rule.

Barca play total football, the type of football most purists claim to adore. When has a Mourinho managed team ever played like that?

Guardiola is a product of the cruyff legacy, it is a different mentality completely. Personally I much prefer it. Not to mention the much more humble persona Guardiola projects and respect for others that Mourinho falls way short in. This is largely the same reason most people want to see Messi succeed and Christine fail.

Just look what happens when things dont go Madrids way. Complete toys out of the pram meltdown, sendings off and loveable jose dumped into the stands, refusing to talk to the press.

In the words of Shania Twain, that dont impress me much.

ferkin 'ell elmaster

that's got to go down as one of the most fantastic posts in the history of bf

it's so far off the mark it dosen't even register on the scale.

or is it a wind up that i've failed to spot?

i think he's just a bitter barca backer

elmaster doesn't sound too happy

not so sure you will see another team play "total football" a la Barca for a long time, but Madrid haven't been the boring scrape 1-0 team that other Jose teams have been accused of being

prob already mentioned but it's hard to compare him to Fergie, Mourinho has been successful for a number of teams in a short space of time, Fergie has been at the same for 25 years and has created a number of winning teams. we won't find out if he could go all around Europe and perform the same now

I think if he where to win the CL with Real he surely go's down as one of the greatest of all time. The thing is also he's young and surely will win alot more. Seems to be able to get the max out of players. Benezma was gone at the game till Mourinho got hold of him. Barca seemed to have droped a bit this year but that takes nothing away from Real. They have been ruthless this year and deserve to win the league.

I never back teams when they are so close any of them could win, and that's a coin in the air, doesn´t go with my way of working here,  I'm just talkng as a football fan, and second half was in real danger for Madrid, Barsa scored cause Mourinho made the team go to defend with 10 man, and was amatter of time, Cristiano saved his ass cause barsa would have probaly scored another goal, thats  my way of seeing it nothing else

if he wins CL its beyond doubt

I never back teams when they are so close any of them could win, and that's a coin in the air,

if it's a coin flip is the team at 5's+ not the bet

the nobs who say red nose are probably the same people who say messi should play oustside of la liga

the nobs who say red nose are probably the same people who say messi should play oustside of la liga

Red Nose saw off Jose though didn't he. Mourinho hasn't sustained his success anywhere for longer than 2 seasons. 3rd year at Chelsea, Fergie pegged him back and Utd won the title. Then Jose left part way through his fourth season as it all got a bit much for him.

JOSE Managerial statisticsTeam Nat From To Record
Win %
Benfica  20 Sep 2000 5 Dec 20oo 54.55% WIN RATE
União de Leiria  14 Apr 2001 20 Jan 2002 55% WIN RATE
Porto  23 Jan 2002 26 May 2004 69.29% WIN RATE
Chelsea  2 Jun 2004 20 Sep 2007 70.81% WIN RATE
Internazionale  2 Jun 2008 28 May 2010 62.96% WIN RATE
Real Madrid  31 May 2010 Present 75.89% WIN RATE

Total games played 562 won 389 drawen 109 lost 65 69.22% win rate over his full career goals for 1110 goals against 433 +687

FERGIE

East Stirlingshire  1 June 1974 20 October 1974 52.94% WIN RATE
St. Mirren  21 October 1974 31 May 1978 43.79% WIN RATE
Aberdeen  1 August 1978 5 November 1986 59.26% WIN RATE
Scotland  10 September 1985 13 June 1986 30% WIN RATE
Manchester United  6 November 1986 Present 59.43% WIN RATE

total games played 2097 won 1215 drawen 481 lost 401 57.94% win rate over his full career,goals for 3898 goals against 1924 +1974


FOR ALL YOU FERGIE LOVERS,THE STATS CLEARLY SHOW THAT JOSE P1SSES ALL OVER THE OLD MAN AND THATS WITHOUT PUTTING UP ALL HIS EUROPEAN TITLES WITH LESSER CLUBS TO SHOW YOU UP EVEN FURTHER

red nose had no where else to go tho mourhino saw off wiskey nose in his first to seasons then won itles with milan and now madrid plus champions league

Jose is undeniably the finest coach in todays game but sir alex is the finest managar the british game has seen

mourhiho owned ferguson in the premiership b4 he was sacked

were they calling him the best when he lost 5-0 to barca, 1 win against barca and now everything has turned, what about those other 5 smackings he recieved from pep, people are so stupid the hop on any train as soon as it stops.

prety sure fergie took a few smackins before he won the premiership pmsl

I LOVE JOSÉ MOURINHO

Barca looked jaded the past 3/4 games and do not have the seasoned pool that Real have and it showed last night,even so it took a fluke goal and some poor finishing again by Barca to lose the game,the better teams have sussed Barca out just play 11 men in your half of the pitch and you will in the course of the game get a couple of chances,with a couple of bits and pieces of luck and hey presto you are an amazing coach,you are totally outplayed for 85mins of the game and snatched victory your masterplan has worked.

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were they calling him the best when he lost 5-0 to barca,
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yes; a lot of people were, because of what he'd done, and what he'd won at previous clubs.

and you may want to bring the 5-0 up as some sort of "spoiler" but the fact is it's results like the 5-0 that make the point.

the fact that he can turn it round to such an extent so quickly is a testament to his quality.

barney wants to play the "caught them on an off day " card but that wont wash either. the improvement mourinho has managed to achieve alongside the things that his clubs have won put him right up their with the very best ,if not right at the very top.

one question .

go back two years and put mourinho in charge of barca, and guadioloa in charge of real .

who do you think would be doing better?

Nobody seems to notice that Real's success this season is almost as much to do with a slight decline from Barca as anything from Jose. I'll repeat myself, but Pellegrini got 96 points and 102 goals with them, so it's not like Jose was taking over a team of mugs. Barca just happened to get 99 points that year. This season, they won't get that because they have declined and Real are going to win it.

It's taken two seasons for Jose to polish up Pellegrini's side a bit, but more importantly, that's how long he's had to wait for Barca's form to drop off. Pellegrini would have won La Liga this season too, imo. He might have even managed it a year earlier than Jose.

Jose has waited it out. Now what's the betting that should Barca re-build and come back stronger, Jose would be off somewhere else, just like when Fergie did it at Man Utd to overhaul Chelsea?

He's like Tony Blair; he'll stay in charge for the good years then hand the keys to someone else when it's all about to turn to sh1t. An admirable self-preservation technique.

yeh

he's just a carpetbagger.

turns up right time right place, and leaves at the optimum time. four times he's done it now.

wish i could have such luck.

Trackman you should be sectioned or perhaps you have just been released....



Dementia, I am reliably informed.

BRIAN CLOUGH WON 2 EUROPEAN CUPS WITH HARDLY ANY MONEY ,THATS A PROPER MANAGER ,TARZENS MONKEY COULD COMPETE AS A MANAGER WITH THESE CLOWNS WITH ALL THE MONEY THEVE GOT

Didn't Clough smash a couple of transfer records on his way to European glory ???

THE ONLY RECORDS BRIAN CLOUGH HAD WAS SHE LOVES YOU BY THE BEETLES ,AND MAGGIE MAY BY ROD STEWERT

He also had ive got you by the doolies

mexicano


he's just a carpetbagger.

turns up right time right place, and leaves at the optimum time. four times he's done it now.

wish i could have such luck.

You can dismiss my point to bask in the reflected glory of a former manager of JAIL-SAY FAMOUS SAY-EFF-SAY...but it doesn't change the fact that the output of Madrid's team isn't much different to what it was under Pellegrini, except for 2 things: 1. Pellegrini broke their record points total in his first season. 2. Barca were more consistent in the league and got 99 points.

As for staying around when things go bad, well, he doesn't does he?

He's a brilliant manager and incredibly successful. But it isn't the special one who has conquered Barcelona, he couldn't do it when they were too consistent -- like Pellegrini couldn't. He's had to wait for them to drop down a notch and, as I said before, I think Pellegrini's side would have won La Liga this season. Jose just happens to be there when Barca have slipped.

Pellegrini must be a bit gutted he was only given one season (and got more points than Jose did in his first season with Real Madrid).

I don't know if I would say best ever but he is certainly a winner. I'm not fond of his style of football, he leans towards the defensive, stuffy, difficult to play against. It's certainly not open expansive attacking football. But then again neither am I a huge fan of the current Barcelona side, whose style while attacking, doesn't have the elegance and beauty of the great sides from the past, like Brazil '70 and '82 or Netherlands '74 and '78 for example.

Back to Mourinho, he is very effective, virtually guarantees success if he gets enough money to spend. Not sure if he could do it on shoe-string budget like SAF at Aberdeen for example. Won the CL with two outsiders, especially Porto who were 50/1 I believe. It's quite an achievement and have no doubt he will win the CL more times with other clubs. He doesn't ever seem to stay in one place very long, so we have no idea if he can rebuild multiple winning sides at the the same club, like SAF has and Bill Shankly did.

we have no idea if he can rebuild multiple winning sides at the the same club, like SAF has and Bill Shankly did.

If he does that, then he would be the best ever without question. Perhaps that will be his next job.

mourinho has merked Ferguson in the League, FA Cup final and Europe

How different things might have been without tim howards blunder

would certainly have slowed down jose progress

He won inter the champions league after a gap of 45 years

6 Years after winning it with porto ffs

the blokes top notch

Agree, Steptoe.

Mourinho is definitely a winner but surely style of football is important too. I would much rather watch a Rinus Michels, SAF or a Jock Stein side play than a Jose side. If he can play good attacking football and win, then he could be the best, but for now I will stick with Michels as best ever, as much for his beautiful style of football as his ability to win.

And from Michels, you get Cruyff and then on to Guardiola today. Michels influenced football in a way that not many have done.