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By:
cahir4
When: 26 Mar 12 16:42
if they void the game that will be unfair.
By:
dumberx
When: 26 Mar 12 16:46
you can have yours big fat green on the lay but when match is going wrong i everytime lay on it and reduce my losses. But when is there some technical problem   witch close market and you cant regular bet full time i think thats reason. once i had voided profit on horses and in the same way... some technical problem closes market...thats my point.
By:
cahir4
When: 26 Mar 12 16:56
Couple of weeks ago they suspended every game which was taking place in England (premiership,championship, league one...) for more than 30 min. Do you think they voided all of them? No they didn't and I hope they don't do that this time .
By:
dumberx
When: 26 Mar 12 17:09
i hope they do i was around one minute in market before they hit 4.th goal... and match was closed to the end i dont bet before match started... support wrote me they close market becouse of some suspicion about reguler playing time...
By:
cahir4
When: 26 Mar 12 17:18
They can suspect whatever they want but I know Danish reserves league very well and I can tell you that everything was correct during that game and according to T&C game shouldn't be voided.Let's wait for Betfair explanation in my opinion they have no rights to void .
By:
dumberx
When: 26 Mar 12 17:24
ofc we must wait... but i hope closed market will not cost me 800 euros/min... i have to go now have nice day all of you...
By:
dumberx
When: 26 Mar 12 17:24
becouse of...
By:
Rooney77
When: 26 Mar 12 17:36
Pay out for winners void for those who cant do nothing because of THEY mistake and thats it. betFAIR
By:
cahir4
When: 26 Mar 12 17:39
I agree with you Rooney77 :)
By:
freelovebel
When: 26 Mar 12 17:56
This game must obviously be paid , like always in this type of case ...No objective reason to void it , the fact it was suspended during 25 minutes is not one ...
By:
Bedford
When: 26 Mar 12 17:59
i never heard that this kind game will be void, all cases was paid off in past, so it going to be paid off
By:
cahir4
When: 26 Mar 12 18:08
Must be paid of course .Why they are waiting so long?
By:
freelovebel
When: 26 Mar 12 20:07
What's the explanation of this long time ... ???
By:
cahir4
When: 26 Mar 12 21:49
What is going on with this market?
By:
diegolin
When: 26 Mar 12 23:37
I'm waiting for my bet!! What happen?
By:
cahir4
When: 26 Mar 12 23:51
I am still waiting as well,Betfair is saying that samething was wrong with the game time and they are trying to clarify what was wrong. In my opinion everything was ok .
By:
dumberx
When: 27 Mar 12 01:08
freelovebel i wrote 800/1min becouse i entred to market in 65 mins of playing. I bet and one minute after that they close market and becouse of this i can loose 90 percent of my capital im just student i wanted lay after while not risk all for it im betting in play trying to follow market. But that closing market wasnt my fault why i should pay for it? Its normal when you go bet some in play to have chance to coordinate it. I know some of you are in profit befor that suspend but look on it like on fair play when you expect 90 mins of playing and they close market around 65 minutes. Maybe its my fault to play with lot of money but i did it with keeping eye on it it is obviouse. Sorry for my english. David
By:
dumberx
When: 27 Mar 12 01:35
free i wrote 800/min becouse i entred market around a minute before they suspended it 800 euro is 90 percent of my capital  i enter the market around 64 minute in faith ill be able control market for full match time. They suspended it and i wasnt able to do nothing just look on it. Im just student why i should pay for it when normaly you can bet full time. My money just stucked there. I know a lot of people is in profit but guys try to look on it with eyes of the other side.  It cant be ok when they close market sooner. And you can just look. Betfair isnt sportsbook where you cant touch your betted money you have influence on it full time right?
By:
Rooney77
When: 27 Mar 12 01:52
yes
By:
loadedgimp
When: 27 Mar 12 02:18
dumberx on betfair you have the opportunity to trade in play (bet at any time in the match), if you enter a market you do so at your own risk and betfair accept no responsibility if the trading opportunity is not available.  In future do not bet on something you cannot leave for the remaining time especially in games as low profile as these.  Any Premier League match is unlikely to get suspended, save your big bets for that.  Reserve games can and will get suspended - betfair cannot be blamed and they only offered the opportunity to trade this game if you wished to risk it.
By:
GTFI
When: 27 Mar 12 09:31
18hrs later andstil no payout
Betfair are an utter disgrace and should be ashames of themselves!!!
All other bookies have paid up AT THE TIME of the whistle, so why not BF...Because as usual they are bloody useless...

All my money is tied up in the result and i had over 'x' goals, several selections...

Missed all games since yesterday 3pm and i cant bet this morning....

ANY DECENT firm would at least put a fu ck ing explaination up instead of being so busy with their slot machines!!!!!!!   

BetFAIR...how about payupFAIR   and on god damn time!!!!

EXPLAIN YOURSELVES BETFAIR!!!
By:
JackQueen
When: 27 Mar 12 09:35
Why don't you phone the helpdesk?
By:
Zack2012
When: 27 Mar 12 09:39
People are trying to look after themselves - those that won want the match paid, those that lost want it voided. It's not rocket science, that's a basic human principle.

When I still saw it sitting in play at 4pm yesterday, I jokingly said they're not paying because it's fixed - BUT if you look at the trading patterns, there doesn't seem to be much that is abnormal. This is what surprises me - unless there is evidence of a clear fix (which there may be, I haven't looked in many markets, just looked at match odds at 0-4 etc) betfair always pay out.... why? Because they get their commission.

I'm from England - there are a ridiculous amount of Italian games fixed, especially towards the end of the season. I remember one Serie B game had something silly like 231k matched on a draw before kickoff and 4k on home/away. Bookies were offering silly odds like 1/6 for the draw or suspending betting. Even Betfair suspended betting about an hour or 2 before the game. The match was a draw.... some bookies decided to void.... Betfair paid. As betfair paid, they get their commission....

Also that fixed Nicosia/Doxa cup game earlier this season - did they pay up for that? I watched that, the defending was pure comedy

I'm amazed it's taken them so long, and I can't see them refusing to pay - if they don't pay out they don't make any money from the match. They are a business..... businesses like to make money....

(Just to clarify I have nothing on the match, I'm very interested in whether it gets paid or not though - if it doesn't there is certainly a case for other past bets to be voided...)
By:
GTFI
When: 27 Mar 12 09:58
Living on top of a mountain in Wales i only have a satellite system, the phone bills are rediculous so helpdesk isnt an option.
Surely a simple Fred for 'unpaid' suspended markets from BF at the top of the forum would be so much easier like they put when a game loses feed.  Cant the same 'permanent' feature be used titled' UNSETTLED MARKETS"...How long would it take to type a quick explaination of why markets arent sewttled and when an expected time is due?
Not rocket science....

Also, i called them everything when They were losing and got back to within a goal as i wanted to green up for a decent profit.  I wasnt shouting VOID the game though... if no goal in 91st mine i would have lost, still i wasnt shouting fix or void the game...   so i think im being reasonable.  been here too many years to ask for voids etc..   its all part of the 'risk we take' ... thats life, hats betting!!!

Whoever lost 800euros, simple, if you cant afford to lose it, DONT BET WITH IT!!  PAY YOUR BILLS, PLAY WITH WHATS LEFT OVER.
By:
Max777
When: 27 Mar 12 10:06
i wait and wait and wait
By:
cahir4
When: 27 Mar 12 10:16
Unbelivable.Still waiting , other bookmakers settled this game as normal only Betfair is playing with us and probably looking for some reason to void this bet.THis game wasn't fixed I am 100% sure so why there are waiting so long?
By:
popopop
When: 27 Mar 12 10:37
its a tough call but id be pretty gutted if a match id stuck a large amount of money went down for 25 minutes and the course of the game changed entirely in that space of time. i would moan about that one for the rest of my life i should think..
By:
cahir4
When: 27 Mar 12 10:41
We have been informed that this game may not have been scheduled for the full 90 minutes. We are investigating and markets will remain suspended for the time being. When we have information from our data provider on the format of this game, the market can be settled accordingly.
Please accept my apologies for any inconvenience this may have caused.

Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any further enquiries.
By:
GTFI
When: 27 Mar 12 10:43
@pop..   I se where your coming from m8, but at the end of the day BF are constantly losing feeds etc to games, and at the end of the day they have 'responsible gambling' tabs and T&C.

Responsible gambling we all SHOULD now is never bet more than you can afford to lose.
T&C state that they re not responsible for lost feeds etc.  also, i have money in over 4.5 goals etc...    this cannot be disputed, there were 4.5 goals, (i placed when at 3 goals), why no payout on that either yet.  If it was fixed, why have other bookies settled up already.

QA simpe explaination from BF on the forum would put an end to all this shambles...
By:
cahir4
When: 27 Mar 12 10:47
Below i copied betfair explanation
By:
Doserdad
When: 27 Mar 12 10:54
All Danish reserve games are sheduled for 90 mins only friendlies can be shorter. Lost a load on a friendly the other week when the game suddenly finished after 65 mins but it clearly started in the game rules that it was 90 mins as did this game.
By:
diegolin
When: 27 Mar 12 11:00
The game was 90 min and 6 .... in all bet webs paid. Why here not? I want my money
By:
cahir4
When: 27 Mar 12 11:07
If they want I can phone Lyngby Sport Club and ask .Is this so difficult for them to clarify?
By:
GTFI
When: 27 Mar 12 11:08
BF listed it as 90, we all bet in good faith on 90...it lasted 90+ I.T.   Not one person in the forum shouted "hey, this is an eighty minute game"..no idea how much was won lost in total, but no vast sums to suggest a fix.. 
So, whats the only theory left?  That bf hold onto the money for another 24hrs so they get interest sitting in their bank to pay for the £50 mid-week competition...  you REALLY that desperate BF?   nm... you'll make it on the slots in the next 3 mintes im sure.

MOVE YOUR FU CK ING ****!!!!   Or i or one will be calling for a 24hr no bets palced by as many peple as i can get... for you total disregard for your customers which include community tabs we lost..   bllody slots on every page we visit...  forced BETA even when we opt out...the list goes on...  LISTEN FFS !!!!
By:
Betfair Community Manager 2
When: 27 Mar 12 11:13
All - I am trying to get some more detail on this. I didn't want to post that I had nothing to tell you as that doesn't help much, but similarly I didn't want to leave it much longer. I am still trying and when I get something, rest assured I will share it.
By:
Betfair Community Manager 2
When: 27 Mar 12 11:14
GTFI - I understand your anger, but please refrain from posting ridiculous suggestions, such as we are withholding money to pay for forum competitions. It's not helping me to try and help you.
By:
cahir4
When: 27 Mar 12 11:17
22k matched on Match odds market , Italian Serie A or Serie B clearly fixed games at the end of last season over 500k matched and no one void these games.
By:
cahir4
When: 27 Mar 12 11:22
To Betfair comuunity manager : what kind of details are you trying to get? We can help you to get them as i said I can phone Lyngby Footbal club stright away and ask every detail.
By:
GTFI
When: 27 Mar 12 11:29
BCM...it was a tongue in cheek remark as im ure most appreciate..  but it really is a total mockery when all sites have paid up and there is no reasonable explaination as to why BF havent.
I have posted very valid comments and under different names over 10yrs i have put well over 100K into this site on bets...which is a fair amount of commision.

As proof around 10yrs ago i had a 'specialy made' box of choccs sent at Xmas to my home address from yourselves which were very tatefuly designed into various sports 'figures' footballs, rugby balls, horses etc...   

Most people on here will say what the bloody hell is he alking about lol.   I have had to have different accounts due to failed marriage and other personal roblems in my life which have changed bank account etc.  Including your rule of "we cant remove your cards for at east 6 months from when you enter it"

As a very long standing and loyal customer i just find it incredible that ovr the years you are going backwards and not forwards with your customer support.

When i receive phone calls from BF the staff are excellent and so polite... they are REAL PEOPLE that actually listen... but at the end of the day... all we get are "we are looking into it"

What a shame.   :(
By:
cahir4
When: 27 Mar 12 11:34
I see you have Danish language suuport team would be easier for them to call to someone in Denmark to get the details? but if they can't do that I can call...I have been there many times and they speak English very well .
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