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A decent article in Football365.com by John Nicholson

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Okay deep breath. Settle down. Fabio Capello has gone. Harry Redknapp will replace him.

It won't affect much. England won't be any better or much worse. The players are still the players and still won't be able to retain possession but will have enough quality to win some games. The same old story.

There is a case for Redknapp as England manager. Many don't like him and think he's not good enough, others do. It's like that with most managers.

But it is an appointment campaigned for by large swathes of the press and most of the broadcast media output; a triumph for favouritism over meritocracy.

They seem psychotically desperate for him to take over; they want it with a lust that I have never known at any other time. They talk about him as though he is a family member. It is nothing less than a determined, concerted campaign and like any political campaign; they protect their candidate from any criticism. Henry Winter says 54 and a half million Englishmen want Harry Redknapp and the other 500,000 are Spurs fans who don't want him to leave. This is just untrue but it was asserted on Radio 4 this morning as though it was. This is the mood music. A story has been created and nothing which does not fit the plotline is being reported. It is a Stalinist whitewash to get one man elected.

Serious critique of Redknapp's management of almost any club he's been in charge of has always been very limited because presumably, no-one likes to criticise a friend. But this is not good enough.

Simply put, almost all media outlets and employees seem biased in his favour. Nothing which paints him in a bad light is published. When Spurs play badly it is never his fault. When they lose, it is the players who lose. When they win it is his talent. His Spurs reign has been described by slavering acolytes as 'magnificent' and 'extraordinary'. It is in such hyperbole that this awful favouritism reveals itself.

He's done a very good job, but not an extraordinary job. No manager is this perfect. Everyone does things wrong. Redknapp is no exception. He is being rated far too highly. This isn't to say he is without qualities nor even that he shouldn't manage England, but the way he's talked about across the media you'd think he'd turned water into wine, Michael Dawson into Franz Beckenbauer.

Think otherwise? It will never be raised in the media. The voices against him are muted and not given a platform, Right away, as soon as Capello resigned, there was a media maelstrom, telling us 'everyone' wants Redknapp as manager, when that just isn't true. Even the normally excellent Mark Chapman on 5live got caught on this media-generated story arc said it was 'unanimous' before, to give him his due, qualifying the statement somewhat. There is always a tendency for a collective group think in football where assumptions are made by a few and adopted by many others. This must explain why Capello, win ratio of 67% and all, is being described as though he was a failure and a bad manager, a bad man, even.

There are and always have been fans who have questioned Redknapp's abilities and there are even now. You don't have to hate him or think him useless to think and understand that he is far from perfect. But we are painted a picture as though he is capable of transforming ordinary talent into worldbeaters, of making players feel so good that they perform extraordinary feats.

Stan Collymore was reporting players' favourable response to a Redknapp appointment as though this in itself would justify it but surely he is not so dumb as to not realise that players always back the new man, just as they always back the old man right up until he is sacked or resigns. They gravitate to the power. It is proof of nothing and even if it was, should the FA really appoint a manager on the say-so of the players?

"The foreign managers have been useless," one caller said to 5live. This is the dumb level reached. This is who supports the Redknapp appointment.

The anti-Capello sentiment, like the anti-Sven sentiment before it, is nothing less than vile. His achievements are wiped away in this media frenzy which re-writes history in the same way a totalitarian regime does.

Today's arrogant bully, let us not forget, was appointed to instil discipline into a side indulged by Steve McClaren and Sven. It is a bitter irony that Sven was castigated - by those who now accuse Capello of being too cold and aggressive towards the players - for indulging the WAG culture and not showing enough emotion. What is a man to do? These two men took England through five qualifying campaigns and lost just two games. The Englishman in the middle of them lost three in just one. To ignore this fact as an inconvenient truth is an emblem of the stupidity on display here.

It now seems forgotten that the players had grown fearful of the shirt and of playing at home before Capello arrived. All was not sweetness and light before the evil Capello snake polluted the Garden of Eden.

The impression we are being given, as ever, is that it's not the players' fault we're losers at tournaments, it is the manager. But it's not the manager, it is the players, players who - like Redknapp - are all too often and easily over-rated.

A quick example: Joe Hart. A great shot-stopper, now regularly called the best keeper in the world on TV and in the press. However, Hart comes for and flaps at a lot of crosses; the world's best keeper wouldn't. This awkward fact is just totally ignored, is not commented on, and the great shot-stopping is focused on instead. So when he plays for England and he flaps at a cross, and someone scores as a result, it will be presented as though it is out of character or that he's playing worse for England than his club. He's not. A false impression has been created.

I hope Redknapp's legendary man-management powers will transform England from also-rans into champions. I see no reason why, if true, it would not work immediately. Presumably he will be sacked if this is not the case. Virtually the only quality assigned to him by his followers is man management, so if that is proved bogus, the reason for his appointment evaporates.

We've been down this populist manager route before with Kevin Keegan who, oh, he was English and could speak English fluently. It never ends well.

This whole affair is far too emblematic of the hysterical, bi-polar, idiot culture which underlies the national game.

But this love will end in tears. It always does with England. They will turn on the man they now vaunt and adore. They eat their own, this mob. It is sick.

They think they have won but more truthfully it reveals we are all losers.

John Nicholson

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By:
mexicano
When: 09 Feb 12 19:42
interesting read. perhaps gone a bit too far "the other way", and is not giving 'arry the credit due for the improvement in tottenham as a football club since he arrived.

but i gotta say i tend to agree with a lot of it.
By:
Rosie47
When: 09 Feb 12 19:48
Indeed, a very good read. A refreshing change to find a journalist who isn't crawling up Rednapp's arse.
By:
R0ykeane
When: 09 Feb 12 19:50
At worst we'll be performing as well(badly) but saving money (nap)

Hiddink far and away the standout candidate short term and perhaps long but must be an englander.

Mugs the lot of yous
By:
JPJ
When: 09 Feb 12 19:53
Mexicano. I agree mate
By:
tobermory
When: 09 Feb 12 19:54
Yes Mex, too far exaggerated the other way.

Redknapp does not get the Kim Il Sung like worship from the media this guy claims, and his appointment would be a lot more popular than anyone else that is likely to consider the job.
By:
loui
When: 09 Feb 12 19:57
trying to remember who was the last england coach to leave the post without a severely damaged image. probably ron greenwood(caretaker i think. some might say terry venables. alf ramsey a cert.
By:
Rosie47
When: 09 Feb 12 19:59
"Redknapp does not get the Kim Il Sung like worship from the media this guy claims"

Oh, rest assured he gets exactly that.
By:
themover
When: 09 Feb 12 20:00
Good read. It's an ongoing circle with England and the FA are a lot to blame for this...after all we now have a chartered accountant running English football whose main priorities were reducing dissent and increasing respect in English football...obviously not to the extent of respecting the manager, appointed by the said organisation, to deal with football matters on the pitch. Capello was/is a good manager and a loss I expect we will come to regret, unless of course they do the sensible thing and appoint the best man for the job and not one based on his nationality..alas I fear not.
By:
Crisp77
When: 09 Feb 12 20:01
The press are so keen on Redknapp it must mean that they have loads of dirt on him.
By:
homefortea
When: 09 Feb 12 20:05
Capello was a poor manager and if you look at the England fixtures when he was manager then his success rate should have been higher.£24 million of your English pounds gone South.
By:
berto77
When: 09 Feb 12 20:05
Good piece.  Redknapp should, and will, get he job but as this article points out the players will be the same.

Redknapps candidacy is massively enhanced by the total and shameful lack of alternatives.  No one dare contemplate who to appoint if Redknapp doesnt want it.  Hodgson?  Pearce? Alladyce?
By:
whosaidwhat
When: 09 Feb 12 20:07
Won one FA Cup ; questions his own ability to write , use a computer , send emails , use text messaging , use faxes ; ideal credentials for an England manager I would have thought. And speaks Cockney/Mockney - result eh? the boy will have done good before the fat lady sings.
By:
Rosie47
When: 09 Feb 12 20:07
Obviously Hiddink is a vastly superior candidate, but he probably won't get it because he isn't english. Shame that the FA won't pick the best, but then they are racist.
By:
mafeking
When: 09 Feb 12 20:10
leaving aside what you might think of redknapp can you imagine the press's reaction if anyone else gets the job in preference to their chosen one ?

honeymoon period ? they're tear the poor sod limb from limb from day one
By:
homefortea
When: 09 Feb 12 20:12
So by appointing an English manager to be manager of the England football team the FA would be racist !! No wonder the country is in such a state and the garbage from around the world washes up on its shores.Is that a racist comment or should anyone be allowed to live there ?
By:
themover
When: 09 Feb 12 20:12
I really hope Redknapp doesn't take it. Doing such a good job at Spurs would be a shame to see him go the way of McClaren etc.
By:
Regular Fries
When: 09 Feb 12 20:13
me too mover. Just can't see him not taking it if offered though
By:
Rosie47
When: 09 Feb 12 20:14
Yes homefortea, by picking someone who isn't the best manager for the job but simply because they were english, that would make them racist.

Are you thick?
By:
mafeking
When: 09 Feb 12 20:18
not really sure what point the bloke writing the article is trying to make.

an englishman should be the manager of england and redknapp is by the best qualified candidate.

everyone knows the reason we don't do very well if cos we don't have very good players. how many times have watched you even 2nd and 3rd rate international sides outpass england let alone the very best ?

every chance redknapp will make little difference. why do think everyone thinks he'd be made to take it ?
By:
mafeking
When: 09 Feb 12 20:18
* mad to take it
By:
tobermory
When: 09 Feb 12 20:19
There are reasons other than 'best man for the job' why you might want to pick an english manager.

Familiarity with the football culture, abilty to speak the language etc

So it is not inherently racist to have that view
By:
homefortea
When: 09 Feb 12 20:23
What ? You think that by appointing Gus Hiddink as manager, a rip roaring success in Turkey is the right appointment.He is better than Harry at one thing though - He was found GUILTY of tax fraud in 2007.There are some countries in the world that would not let him get a visa after that conviction.The Rascist card is overplayed and in this countries case has dragged it into the gutter..Feck off you Liberal...
By:
TRFC Kev
When: 09 Feb 12 20:27
Am I right in thinking there's an element of the Spurs support who are not totally enamoured with 'Arry and wouldn't be disappointed to see him leave?


The job is a poison challice, and though I have nothing against Spurs (Except all those 4-0 Cup defeats Angry) it's perfect for Redknapp.

You can take the boy out of the East End.....
By:
anfeild
When: 09 Feb 12 20:28
If Harry gets it will not be any different. The players are simple not good enough. The press know this but the hounding of the English manager is a national sport. Harry is perceived as the savior. If he takes it won't be long till the press are hounding him out. Just have a sneaky feeling Harry won't take it. If he doesn't then i can see the FA swiftly change their view on wanting an English man. Because the rest of the crop are limited.
By:
Captain Christy
When: 09 Feb 12 20:35
Anyone would think this 'journalist' doesn't know that the main idea behind building them up is to knock em down.
By:
R0ykeane
When: 09 Feb 12 20:40
homefortea
09 Feb 12 20:23 Joined: 06 Sep 04 | Topic/replies: 1,523 | Blogger: homefortea's blog
What ? You think that by appointing Gus Hiddink as manager, a rip roaring success in Turkey is the right appointment.He is better than Harry at one thing though - He was found GUILTY of tax fraud in 2007.There are some countries in the world that would not let him get a visa after that conviction.The Rascist card is overplayed and in this countries case has dragged it into the gutter..Feck off you Liberal...


If you cant see hiddink is by far a superior candidate for both his mainly good and rare bad experiences across several different nations you sir, cannot be helped.
By:
mafeking
When: 09 Feb 12 20:41
kev, when he was appointed many of us had reservations (me included) but we were desperate at the time and mid season we'd didn't have many other options.

he's done a tremendous job. don't think people realise how much we are up against it. he broke up the sky 4 which seemed almost impossible at the time and the 5 clubs we're now competing with all have vastly superior budgets.

as for him leaving been on the cards ever since capello said he was going in the summer in a way it's better it's come to a head now. at least now we can plan for next season. would have been much worse if the fa had stuck to their original plan and came calling for arry in july leaving us in a right mess with the season not far away.
By:
Rosie47
When: 09 Feb 12 20:44
There is no problem with Hiddink's ability to speak or understand english, not with his adaptability to the culture, he has managed it perfectly well in every other job he has had.

The fact that people use the term "liberal" in a derogatory way just shows how thick they are. The same as the term "socialist" is about the worst insult you can give to someone in America.

Yes, I am a liberal, and proud of it.
By:
Compensation Year
When: 09 Feb 12 20:45
agree with anfeild - think it is no more than 50/50 that he will take the job if he's offered it. Family could well persuade him to stay where he is given Spurs loyalty, his health issues and a court case that has probably taken a lot out of him.
By:
homefortea
When: 09 Feb 12 20:53
Rosie47 you dog.A Liberal in this country is the worst insult I can imagine.And for the record I have never said that Harry is the best candidate to be England Manager.As for Hiddink I am in awe of his learning to speak fluent Turkish in his short and vastly unsuccessful stint as the manager of the national team, as I am of his abilities when in charge of Russia....
By:
duffy
When: 09 Feb 12 20:55
the worrying thing to come out of todays press conference was the inference from bernstein that it was the "confidence" element that was missing from the team more than any other factor....if he really believes this then it shows that the man at the top is pretty much clueless as to our real failings.
By:
lagmorian
When: 09 Feb 12 20:59
had the chance to get mart o'neill years ago and blew it
By:
Rosie47
When: 09 Feb 12 21:02
I'll just have to accept that you are a thicko, homefortea. Every comment you have made on this thread have proved it beyond any doubt.
By:
I_McHunt_Pro-Punter
When: 09 Feb 12 21:07
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD GO FOR A COCKNEY, I THINK THE NEXT ENGLAND MANAGER SHOULD BE ENGLISH.
By:
homefortea
When: 09 Feb 12 21:08
Typical Liberal.Probably a Lesbian as well ! If anyone disagrees with you then they are wrong ! One million illegal immigrants will be hanging on every word.Get a hold of yourself.....
By:
Ouspenski
When: 09 Feb 12 21:09
Rosie47
09 Feb 12 20:14
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Yes homefortea, by picking someone who isn't the best manager for the job but simply because they were english, that would make them racist.

Are you thick?


Rosie, if youre going to call someone thick, its possibly a good idea to make sure youre right. It wouldnt make them racist, it would make them xenophobic. Nothing funnier than a thicko calling someone else thick!!HTH
By:
Rosie47
When: 09 Feb 12 21:13
In common use of the word, Ouspenski, it is frequently used to describe discrimination based on race, religion, or nationality. I suggest you do a little more research. HTH.
By:
homefortea
When: 09 Feb 12 21:16
So Rosie how is the flat in Tower Hamlets at this time of the year ?
By:
Rosie47
When: 09 Feb 12 21:19
I have no idea, as I live nowhere near there.

Strange question Plain
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