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ive had afew lays of 1.1 matched at 10/15/28 with the offset and then the horse comes straight back into 1.01, amazing that for a millisecond, theres a gap in the market that late for someone to lay at them silly prices
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do u guys not actually bet horses to win or lay
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both for me, back and lay , seems to have got harder last week , but i guess part of that was me, couldnt get into it , after a amazing september !!
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like you wouldnt simply back a horse to win is it all pre race trading
do you profit every race |
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in play mosty for me, but if i can be bothered ill try and nick a tick on a few outsiders , doing £50 a click pre race
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dave - haha not guilty, i mainly lay to back with a set liabilty so stakes vary but the best ive had was lay at 1.7 and offset matched at 20ish then came back to win but id greened up around 6 so didnt make as much as i could have.
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it's a totally different way of gambling on horses Enigmatic.
not a case of picking a horse to back/to place/to lay. all software trading pre and during running |
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how are you guys watching the racing, if at all?
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i trade the other way normaly, try and get as many back to lays in and only green up sub 3,
look at this today, had a back of £2 in , 64p got matched , horse hits 1.51 , tried to lay £77 @ 1.7 but was too slow, i guess thats coz i was in work ,pc slow/s hit Selection Odds Stake(£) Bid type Placed Profit/loss(£) Lough Roe Lady 240.00 0.64 Back 12-Oct-11 17:32 -0.64 |
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i dont normally watch the race investor, sometimes ill pay attention to see whats infront/2nd/3rd but thats it,, normally done my trading(back & laying) well before 2 out , so only green out after
love the fact that we got barca & real marid both home and long odds on this weekend tho, plenty of trading on them correct score 2 markets to be done investor ![]() ![]() |
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yes, good old cs2, having a shocking year for that market though:
Year Days Traded + Days - Days % Win Days Total Bet Volume Profit minus Comm Profit on Turnover 2008 1 1 0 100.00% £8 £0 4.80% 2009 20 17 3 85.00% £6,187 £425 6.87% 2010 50 42 8 84.00% £4,121 -£328 -7.97% 2011 53 46 7 86.79% £20,588 -£9,942 -48.29% Total 124 106 18 85.48% £30,904 -£9,845 -31.86% |
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I prefer the return characteristics from this strategy:
Year Days Traded + Days - Days % Win Days Total Bet Volume Profit minus Comm Profit on Turnover 2009 2 2 0 100.00% £240 £8 3.26% 2010 68 68 0 100.00% £1,414 £984 69.64% 2011 50 50 0 100.00% £370 £355 95.79% Total 120 120 0 100.00% £2,024 £1,347 66.56% [;)] The first one is better for PC though ![]() |
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i dont usually watch the whole race. just use the computer so have bf video in the background and flick between or timeform radio on (which the commentary is sometimes ahead of bf video). i find going by the odds are sometimes better though as people seem to overreact in play and its fairly easy to steal a tick a few times. i try not to go in play so much though as one race does a bit of damage working on a small bank.
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paulme Joined: 20 Jan 11
Replies: 5123 12 Oct 11 23:21 it's a totally different way of gambling on horses Enigmatic. not a case of picking a horse to back/to place/to lay. all software trading pre and during running So if you can explain this trading procedure to someone else why do you get so uptight about people like Rob and u25k never posting a tip pre match? |
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hi bizzo. you ok buddy?
oh they arent gruss horse traders like dave. they are big staking punter/traders on mainly football, cricket and tennis. quite alot diff |
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cant post figures like you have them investor as dont keep any other records other than monthly p & l , but heres the matches ive traded cs 2 market from last 3 months :
Soccer / Espanyol v Real Madrid : Correct Score 2 02-Oct-11 21:00 02-Oct-11 22:53 41.67 Soccer / Gijon v Barcelona : Correct Score 2 02-Oct-11 19:00 02-Oct-11 20:55 31.70 Soccer / Bolton v Chelsea : Correct Score 2 02-Oct-11 13:30 02-Oct-11 15:27 0.00 Soccer / Malaga v Getafe : Correct Score 2 01-Oct-11 21:00 01-Oct-11 22:52 -2.31 Soccer / Barcelona v Atl Madrid : Correct Score 2 24-Sep-11 21:00 24-Sep-11 22:56 128.18 Soccer / Real Madrid v Rayo Vallecano : Correct Score 2 24-Sep-11 19:00 24-Sep-11 21:02 -28.73 Soccer / Valencia v Barcelona : Correct Score 2 21-Sep-11 21:00 21-Sep-11 22:51 34.31 Soccer / Brighton v Liverpool : Correct Score 2 21-Sep-11 19:45 21-Sep-11 21:42 2.57 Soccer / Levante v Real Madrid : Correct Score 2 18-Sep-11 19:00 18-Sep-11 21:00 3.14 Soccer / Barcelona v Osasuna : Correct Score 2 17-Sep-11 19:00 17-Sep-11 20:50 171.67 Soccer / Real Madrid v Getafe : Correct Score 2 10-Sep-11 19:00 10-Sep-11 20:53 9.23 Soccer / Sociedad v Barcelona : Correct Score 2 10-Sep-11 17:00 10-Sep-11 18:52 32.84 Soccer / England v Wales : Correct Score 2 06-Sep-11 19:45 06-Sep-11 21:35 34.15 Soccer / Bulgaria v England : Correct Score 2 02-Sep-11 19:15 02-Sep-11 21:08 11.49 Soccer / Barcelona v Villarreal : Correct Score 2 29-Aug-11 20:00 29-Aug-11 21:52 139.54 Soccer / Exeter v Liverpool : Correct Score 2 24-Aug-11 19:45 24-Aug-11 21:42 3.69 Soccer / Bolton v Man City : Correct Score 2 21-Aug-11 16:00 21-Aug-11 17:55 1.91 Soccer / Man City v Swansea : Correct Score 2 15-Aug-11 20:00 15-Aug-11 21:54 87.20 i love you barca , lol ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Greyhound Racing: £284.47 | Horse Racing: £167.71 | Tennis: £24.17 | Tote: | Total P&L: £476.35
Horse Racing: £41.09 | Tote: | Total P&L: £41.09 (Aussie market) Very good day today .... just a pity someone chose to get my £100K challenge thread on the general forum removed. ![]() |
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noticed that too undern. it wasn't me before you ask. my 2 favourite threads gone in 1 night
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The amazing Catolica game ends a great day:
Soccer: £669.31 | Tennis: £56.57 | Tote: | Total P&L: £725.88 Soccer / Universidad Catolica v Universidad de Concepcion : 9th Goal 12-Oct-11 23:00 13-Oct-11 00:42 3.37 Soccer / Universidad Catolica v Universidad de Concepcion : Correct Score 12-Oct-11 23:00 12-Oct-11 23:52 154.08 Soccer / Gremio v Figueirense : Correct Score 12-Oct-11 20:00 12-Oct-11 21:56 43.33 Soccer / Rouen v Beauvais Oise : Correct Score 12-Oct-11 19:00 12-Oct-11 20:53 19.26 Soccer / Paris FC v SAS Epinal : Correct Score 12-Oct-11 19:00 12-Oct-11 20:36 30.82 Soccer / Pecsi Mecsek v Siofok : Correct Score 12-Oct-11 17:00 12-Oct-11 18:45 83.78 Soccer / Ruch Radzionkow v Olimpia Elblag : Over/Under 1.5 Goals 12-Oct-11 15:00 12-Oct-11 16:24 72.22 Soccer / Alcorcon v Numancia : Over/Under 1.5 Goals 12-Oct-11 15:00 12-Oct-11 15:33 43.33 Soccer / Preston (Res) v Macclesfield (Res) : Over/Under 1.5 Goals 12-Oct-11 14:00 12-Oct-11 14:34 12.25 Soccer / Vasas v Diosgyori : Over/Under 1.5 Goals 12-Oct-11 13:00 12-Oct-11 13:43 70.78 Soccer / Rayo Vallecano (W) v Llanos Olivenza (W) : Correct Score 12-Oct-11 11:00 12-Oct-11 12:58 -18.00 Soccer / C-Osaka v Hokkaido U of E : Correct Score 12-Oct-11 11:00 12-Oct-11 12:38 78.20 Soccer / C-Osaka v Hokkaido U of E : Over/Under 1.5 Goals 12-Oct-11 11:00 12-Oct-11 11:36 16.18 Soccer / Atl Madrid III v Colmenar Viejo : Over/Under 1.5 Goals 12-Oct-11 10:00 12-Oct-11 11:05 59.71 Tennis / F Lopez v Bogomolov Jr : Match Odds 12-Oct-11 10:45 12-Oct-11 16:37 33.70 Tennis / Vesnina v Pennetta : Match Odds 12-Oct-11 13:00 12-Oct-11 14:57 21.67 Tennis / Stepanek v Berdych : Stepanek +3.5 Games 12-Oct-11 09:30 12-Oct-11 13:42 1.20 |
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jesus bizzo. you're on fire lately!! well done
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bizzo finding his feet in very impressive fashion it must be said. keeps this up and upscales and we'll be going round his for martinis off sweet 16 year old russian hookers i'm hoping...
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now paulme has gone I can post losses too.
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Football: £939.55 | Tennis: -£4,293.02 Total P&L: -£3,353.47
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very large bet against muzza. he then won 5 games in a row. and that's why I'm the tennis expert. AWESOME READ.
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Just to let everyone know Pippolol is the banned Paulme.
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Let's give Pippolol a chance. If he just puts up a post about how he's doing, that's fine. If he starts nailing people against the wall again, I'll be the first to report him again. I have been assured by the BF authorities that they'll be taking financial action against him if he comes back under a banned name and starts up with the same abusive behaviour as before.
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RMB © 13 Oct 11 00:55
bizzo finding his feet in very impressive fashion it must be said Cheers, the difference is that was a whole days betting for me, you probably win more than that in one bet. |
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Selection Odds Stake(£) Bid type Placed Profit/loss(£)
Methayel * 7.87 2,250.00 Back 15,460.00 Methayel 1.40 2,172.24 Lay 13-Oct-11 16:01 -868.85 *Average odds: On Off Back subtotal: 15,460.00 Lay subtotal: -868.85 Market subtotal: 14,591.15 ![]() |
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NICE WORK RMB , how come you didnt green up @ 1.4 , instead of laying most of your stake off ?
good day here , Horse Racing: £176.49 | Tote: | Total P&L: £176.49 Horse Racing Showing 1 - 20 of 25 markets Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£) Horse Racing / Uttox 13th Oct : 2m Hcap Hrd 13-Oct-11 17:10 13-Oct-11 17:18 0.84 Horse Racing / Brig 13th Oct : 5f Hcap 13-Oct-11 17:00 13-Oct-11 17:10 70.05 Horse Racing / Winc 13th Oct : 2m Mdn Hrd 13-Oct-11 16:50 13-Oct-11 16:54 4.06 Horse Racing / Punch 13th Oct : 3m1f Hcap Chs 13-Oct-11 16:45 13-Oct-11 16:53 -0.01 Horse Racing / Uttox 13th Oct : 2m Hcap Chs 13-Oct-11 16:40 13-Oct-11 16:44 -2.00 Horse Racing / Brig 13th Oct : 7f Hcap 13-Oct-11 16:30 13-Oct-11 16:32 -18.32 Horse Racing / Winc 13th Oct : 2m Hcap Hrd 13-Oct-11 16:20 13-Oct-11 16:26 107.57 Horse Racing / Punch 13th Oct : 2m7f Grd3 Chs 13-Oct-11 16:15 13-Oct-11 16:22 0.38 Horse Racing / Uttox 13th Oct : 2m4f Hcap Hrd 13-Oct-11 16:10 13-Oct-11 16:15 -0.05 Horse Racing / Brig 13th Oct : 1m Hcap 13-Oct-11 16:00 13-Oct-11 16:02 -5.33 Horse Racing / Winc 13th Oct : 3m1f Hcap Chs 13-Oct-11 15:50 13-Oct-11 15:58 33.67 Horse Racing / Punch 13th Oct : 2m2f Nov Chs 13-Oct-11 15:45 13-Oct-11 15:55 -3.33 Horse Racing / Uttox 13th Oct : 2m4f Nov Hrd 13-Oct-11 15:40 13-Oct-11 15:45 -15.38 Horse Racing / Brig 13th Oct : 1m Mdn Stks 13-Oct-11 15:30 13-Oct-11 15:33 0.38 Horse Racing / Winc 13th Oct : 2m4f Hcap Hrd 13-Oct-11 15:20 13-Oct-11 15:25 -9.46 Horse Racing / Punch 13th Oct : 2m4f Hcap Hrd 13-Oct-11 15:15 13-Oct-11 15:22 -3.00 Horse Racing / Uttox 13th Oct : 3m Hcap Chs 13-Oct-11 15:10 13-Oct-11 15:17 -7.72 Horse Racing / Brig 13th Oct : 1m2f Hcap 13-Oct-11 15:00 13-Oct-11 15:03 0.00 Horse Racing / Punch 13th Oct : 2m Grd3 Hrd 13-Oct-11 14:45 13-Oct-11 15:00 2.53 Horse Racing / Winc 13th Oct : 2m5f Hcap Chs 13-Oct-11 14:50 13-Oct-11 14:55 0.00 |
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withdrew down to £10 so ill see how far i can take this
Horse Racing: £10.28 | Tote: | Total P&L: £10.28 Horse Racing Showing 1 - 17 of 17 markets Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£) Horse Racing / Uttox 13th Oct : 2m Hcap Hrd 13-Oct-11 17:10 13-Oct-11 17:18 0.11 Horse Racing / Brig 13th Oct : 5f Hcap 13-Oct-11 17:00 13-Oct-11 17:10 2.12 Horse Racing / Winc 13th Oct : 2m Mdn Hrd 13-Oct-11 16:50 13-Oct-11 16:54 2.31 Horse Racing / Punch 13th Oct : 3m1f Hcap Chs 13-Oct-11 16:45 13-Oct-11 16:53 0.78 Horse Racing / Uttox 13th Oct : 2m Hcap Chs 13-Oct-11 16:40 13-Oct-11 16:44 0.98 Horse Racing / Brig 13th Oct : 7f Hcap 13-Oct-11 16:30 13-Oct-11 16:32 0.74 Horse Racing / Winc 13th Oct : 2m Hcap Hrd 13-Oct-11 16:20 13-Oct-11 16:26 -4.99 Horse Racing / Punch 13th Oct : 2m7f Grd3 Chs 13-Oct-11 16:15 13-Oct-11 16:22 0.66 Horse Racing / Uttox 13th Oct : 2m4f Hcap Hrd 13-Oct-11 16:10 13-Oct-11 16:15 1.24 Horse Racing / Brig 13th Oct : 1m Hcap 13-Oct-11 16:00 13-Oct-11 16:02 0.23 Horse Racing / Winc 13th Oct : 3m1f Hcap Chs 13-Oct-11 15:50 13-Oct-11 15:58 1.09 Horse Racing / Punch 13th Oct : 2m2f Nov Chs 13-Oct-11 15:45 13-Oct-11 15:55 1.64 Horse Racing / Uttox 13th Oct : 2m4f Nov Hrd 13-Oct-11 15:40 13-Oct-11 15:45 0.53 Horse Racing / Brig 13th Oct : 1m Mdn Stks 13-Oct-11 15:30 13-Oct-11 15:33 0.32 Horse Racing / Winc 13th Oct : 2m4f Hcap Hrd 13-Oct-11 15:20 13-Oct-11 15:25 1.81 Horse Racing / Punch 13th Oct : 2m4f Hcap Hrd 13-Oct-11 15:15 13-Oct-11 15:22 0.49 Horse Racing / Uttox 13th Oct : 3m Hcap Chs 13-Oct-11 15:10 13-Oct-11 15:17 0.22 not a great amount but if i look at it as i doubled my bank then it seems better |
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Almost always donking off value so almost never close to go all green. I often don't even bother donking off stake but was running bad on tennis so was happy to close out. Horse was prob 1.2 shot when I was laying 1.4. Cancelled the last 90 quid or so lol.
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undern • October 13, 2011 3:06 PM BST
Just to let everyone know Pippolol is the banned Paulme. why was paulme banned? |
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"why was paulme banned?"
for being an idiot ocean |
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Tennis: £3,778.91 Total P&L: £3,778.91
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well played rob
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Cricket: £3,892.88 | Tennis: £993.53 Total P&L: £4,886.41
Cricket Showing 1 - 2 of 2 markets Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£) Cricket / South Africa v Australia (1st T20) : Match Odds 13-Oct-11 17:00 13-Oct-11 20:12 3,820.21 Cricket / South Africa v Australia (1st T20) : South Africa Innings Runs 13-Oct-11 17:00 13-Oct-11 18:27 72.67 |
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good couple of days
mon,tue,wed + £170 tonight shamrock BOOM + £100 and i have put £100 on united -1 at 10/3 and a few pints early KO and its only thursday!!!!! |
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dont want to sound like paulme but some of u guys need to establish a kind of IMF to bail out some unfortnate losers
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Silly Question maybe but how do people know when someone has been banned??
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