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I am fairly confident even a hat can go better than 0 W 7 Losses in a week
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That football predicting pig even picked more winners than McGovern, as for his jokes
"Vettel lost last weeks GP after a dodgy alternator, i doubt he will eat one again" Who finds this funny? |
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0 from 7 is not THAT unusual a sequence in my experience. I ran a thread
on the stats from the Euros, in which a pster pointed out that BTTS had produced 9 wins in a row, in the first 13 matches which I acknowledged. At the end of the 31 matches this was the sequence.WWLLWWWWWWWWWLWLLLWWLLLLLWLLLWL. 16 wins from 31 and these were odds on chances. In 31 matches there 9 from 9,3 from 3, 5 from 5,3 from 11, 11 from 13 ! Plenty of sequences that would test the resolve of most, and that is backing odds on chances. |
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"16 wins from 31 and these were odds on chances"
BTTS was definitely not odds on in all those games. More often than not, BTTS was odds against. |
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Poland v Greece
Russia v Czech Rep Spain v Italy Ireland v Croatia France v England Greece v Czechs Germany v Greece Germany v Italy were all odds against for BTTS |
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I stand corrected as my experience of BTTS was that it
was virtually always odds on BTS, between 1.6 and 1.8. FWIW it doesn't affect the sequence of results. ![]() |
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Just to address the supposed agenda against Scousers/Liverpool, I'm a Bradford fan, couldn't care less about Liverpool or whether this McGovern bloke supports them, but I think he's an absolutely shíte tipster. I would say the same if he was a Bradford fan and was a blood relation of mine.
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8 from 31. 23 odds on. OK.
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Rob, he's not a tipster, he's a journalist.
I don't suppose he will too bothered not being a one of your relatives. |
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No.
8 of the 16 in which both teams scored were odds against. Germany v Greece was as high as 2.56 for btts Plenty more were odds against that lost like all the Spain knockout games, Holland v Denmark, Portugal v Czechs. So no, 23 were not odds against. |
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kenilworth
Rob, he's not a tipster, he's a journalist. So why does he provide his legion of fans with a bet of the day? |
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His column is headed:
'with sport betting's top tipster' Derek McGovern His email address is: betsguru@aol.com And you say he's not a tipster? |
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only in name
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WORST TIPSTER EVER
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Biscuit, you named 8 matches as being odds against so from 31
matches, 8 being odds against, I calculated therefore that 23 were odds on. Point is really that despite a super start the law of averages kicked in, finishing with just over 50% strike rate for a selection that were nearly 75% odds on. ------------------------------------------------------------------- I was unaware McGovern was described as a tipster although I was under the impression he was predominately a journalist, again I stand corrected. . Not sure if it matters, but there you are. Perhaps next time I'm in the newsagents I'll have a peek at the Daily Mirror hoping no one sees me. |
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I would really give it up Kenilworth - there are better causes to get stuck into.
I have no firm evidence about his tips but have looked into his column from time to time over the years and have come away with the impression that he is not very good. Have never found his humour that funny but accept that is subjective, and others will have a different view. |
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Compenation Year, trouble is I am naturally sympathetic of journalist/tipsters
and think that it is incredibly difficult to win under the constraints they work within, not necessarily McGovern, but others, and get very irritated by the assumption that him and his like, are expected win with their daily tips. Regards McGovern, I don't think I've looked at the Mirror in 10 years, perhaps like someone else said, in a barber shop waiting my turn. I don't suppose he is any better or worse than any others who do similar columns. I could do with out the abuse at times though. Thanks for your post by the way, but I've got a thick skin. GL |
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What is this a forum for the wannabe journos and to see who is the worst writer in the World....
I can beat any writer and I am half pissed.... |
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ken
next time you have a short back and sides and get charged £8 say to the scisssors i will put the £2 change on D Mc tip and we go halfs "i'll take a £1 now" will crimper reply |
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How did he get on today?
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kenilworth 11 Jul 12 18:47
Biscuit, you named 8 matches as being odds against so from 31 matches, 8 being odds against, I calculated therefore that 23 were odds on. Point is really that despite a super start the law of averages kicked in, finishing with just over 50% strike rate for a selection that were nearly 75% odds on. Yes i named 8 matches but you were talking about the winning bets weren't you? 16 wins out of 31 games and i said that of those 16 wins, 8 of them were odds against. Anyway it doesn't really matter now. |
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His bet today was take 9/4 at Hills that Andy Carroll is not a Liverpool player by the end of the transfer window.
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What a mug
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Would any of McGovern's critics like to bet that Carroll
is still a Liverpool by the end of the transfer window at 4/9 ? |
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he was on julie Cohen in palermo
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Where is the 4/9 ken?? Quite often he puts these tips up that seem too good o be true and more often than not they are.
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I'm presuming there is a market somewhere, perhaps Hill's
where McGovern apparently backed him to be gone by the end of the window at 9/4. |
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derek's shrewdness has pushed the price down to 7/4
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The question is, would you critics be happy to
lay his hypothetical bet, 9/4 Carroll to be gome from L'pool when the August transfer window closes ? |
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9/4 is not value
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Presumably you would be happy to lay it ?
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Yep, very.
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Nice to see someone who would be prepared to oppose
such a bad tipster. I would have thought there would be a quewe to do so, the silence was beginning to be deafening. |
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Why do u care so much?
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I don't really care, and don't know the man at all.
Turning the question round, why do are people so incensed by a journalist / tipster who apparently fails to show a profit from his tips ? Is it because they are unable to make their betting pay, so feel better if they can take it out on some innocent target ? Answer that question. It's verbal vandalism. He tips a few losers, so what ? |
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Todays tip:
Northants at evens to beat Derbyshire in the CB40 cricket. |