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The Dragon
27 Sep 10 19:27
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Coventry seriously let me down on Saturday ,leaving me with 2 loses on the bounce and 3 out of 5 winners overall.

I am still lokking for value in bet no 6 but i need a win to restore the balance so i am being more cautious in my approach for this bet.

I have spent some time on this one and I think there are some tasty bets to be had on Tuesday the problenm is choosing which one. There are about seven I really like but taking into account current form i going cautious on this one and floating a more adventurous one if a bit more risky but at the price is real value.

So my value bet fot Tuesday is not rocket science but it is CARDIFF to beat C Palace at 1.6.

Consider the facts:

Palace have lost all 4 league games away from home this season they have conceded 12 and have yet to score a single goal . They conceded 5 against Derby (19 th in the League) on Saturday and are currently 20 th in the League having the 2nd worst defensive record in the League (17 goals in 8 matches).

Cardiff on the other hand are unbeaten at home having won 3 out of matches scoring 9 and conceding 2. their away form has let them down a bit but hey lie 2nd in the League 6 pts behind top club QPR.they should be comfotably too strong for Palace.

This looks a value home bet. ( i try to pick bigger prices than this but would like to improve my strike rate as indicated earlier so Cardiff it is.)

My other bet which is worth consideration at a much more attractive price is Watford at 2.3 v Swansea

This is a generous price if you consider the facts:

Swansea have not won away all season losing all 4 games indeed they have not won away in the league for 6 months and have had 8 straight league defeats on the road . They have only scored 2 away all season in the League and have coceded 9 . They have lost away to Hull, Norwich, Leeds and Forest were by all accounts they were dreadful (lost 3-1). Their home form is great having won all 4 games leaving them 9th in the table.

By contrast Watford are on a roll. They are 3rd in the league have only lost one all season scoring 18 and conceding 10. There away form is better than their home form (hence the price) but they have scored 9 goals in the last two games.

2.3 has to be taken

If you are intersted in accas the  others that nearly made the value bet are Peterborough at 1.83 v Notts County and
QPR at 1.72 v Millwall

Good luck if you go in and remember these assessments are made without knowing team news.

Good luck all and happy punting!!!

Constructive comments as always are always welcomeLove
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Report listed September 27, 2010 7:28 PM BST
Stats don't tell the whole story, you can't base your bets purely on stats in my opinion but good luck with your selections.
Report Analyst September 27, 2010 7:30 PM BST
Watford is available at 2.42 - that is a very attractive price for a team in 3rd place.
Report The Dragon September 27, 2010 7:31 PM BST
your right listed and i try to read match reports go on websites and get people who go to games i select to give their views, but hey the stats are there for all to see its up to you to make what you will of them .

Thanks for your comment
Report trego September 27, 2010 7:32 PM BST
Agree with Cardiff, Olofinjana should be back and therefore Cardiff revert to a 4-5-1 which will be strong even without Chopra/Bellamy. Palace without Vaughan shouldnt provide too much of a hassle for Cardiff. Whittingham is due and as you mention unbeaten at home so far this season all bodes well.

Get on at 1.6
Report Baker32 September 27, 2010 7:34 PM BST
Agree with Cardiff Not Watford or QPR, Palace are very poor they lack ideas going forward and cant defend If Cardiff want to go up they have to take 3pts against teams like Palace
Report CARDIFF1927 September 27, 2010 7:38 PM BST
Be very carefull, i feel this price is too short. How much bairing has palaces 5-0 loss put on the price. It was a freak result for them although their away form is poor. Our form looks good but tread carefully.

Millwall (h)- we were very lucky to get the 3 points here even though we played an average millwall team with 10 men for 2/3 of the game and missed a penalty, they should of been 2 up early on.

Hull (h)- Won the game but was far from a good performance against a team who hadnt won for a year away from home.

Donny (h)- This day was all about Bellamy and the scoreline flattered us, donny could of been easily 2 up in the first quarter


We have been getting results but at 1.6 without Bellamy, Chopra, Olly. id be carefull. Performances of late have been nothing to ride home about.
Report Panther65 September 27, 2010 7:39 PM BST
qpr due not to win a game...millwall looking to stop the rot...

london derby added into the equation...NO BET


watford are as capable of being just as bad as they are brilliant & swansea must surely do something away from home eventually...NO BET

cardiff look a solid choice against an extremely out of sorts palace...HOME WIN

GL with ur choices Happy
Report gibmark September 27, 2010 7:41 PM BST
agree , stats dont really add up to much ,
teams are nearly alway made up of different players from game to game,
injuries , lucky pen , poor ref etc etc ,
too early in season too ,
but on form ..cardiff look strong bet ,
my 4 for tomorrow ,
cardiff ,
qpr ,
bournemouth ,
brighton
Report jimbo27 September 27, 2010 7:46 PM BST
Totally on board with cardiff they are my bankers in my accas
My team Q.P.R. were not great on saturday, so don't be too taken in by the stats, 1.73(8/15 on some coupons)is not great, its a derby game and whilst i hope my team wins i can see a draw.
Report gibmark September 27, 2010 7:51 PM BST
hey jimbo ..were donny their normal defensive self though
Report Baker32 September 27, 2010 7:55 PM BST
hello CARDIFF1927 good post but like I said if you cant beat Palace at home even without the player missing the i will be shocked. There is no doubt that Palace will come for the draw so it will be up to Cardiff to break them down.


jimbo27    hello do you know what scares me about you team ? its the fact you are running away with the league (points wise) and haven't played that well i dont know if you would agree with me or not. Maybe take out the Ipswich game where you played well and maybe second half against Middlesbrough would like your views on this ????
Report The Dragon September 27, 2010 8:11 PM BST
thanks for the comments keep them coming,

one thing I have noticed is that a lot of the supporters are quite negative about their own teams Confused
Report The Dragon September 27, 2010 9:42 PM BST
ny comments on peterborough v notts co
Report Pattycake September 27, 2010 11:24 PM BST
My picks for tomorrow:

Burnley
Cardiff
Peterborough
Rotherham

Colchester Utd should win but not touching that as I'll be going to the game.
Report morrissey September 27, 2010 11:26 PM BST
listed     27 Sep 10 19:28 
Stats don't tell the whole story, you can't base your bets purely on stats in my opinion but good luck with your selections.

yeah you can especially if the odds are in your favour.

and for me the bet of the night is a lay of arsenal and ill also be laying real madrid and bayern munich
Report Baker32 September 28, 2010 10:38 AM BST
I listed on the other thread what I will be doing and thats laying Tranmere,Bristol City and Bradford but if your looking for Value to back a team then there is :-
Chesterfield to beat Northampton @ 3.00
Rochdale to beat Huddlesfield @ 3.10
Scunthorpe v Barnsley @ 2.28
( im NOT backing any of these but they are all value) :)
Report The Dragon September 28, 2010 4:47 PM BST
scunthorpe one looks interesting Baker

good luck with your lays
Report Baker32 September 28, 2010 4:49 PM BST
good luck to you also Draagon
Report Baker32 September 28, 2010 4:49 PM BST
sorry Dragon
Report The Dragon September 28, 2010 4:58 PM BST
ive also done a small bet sneaky home teams 5 timer that pays 20-1

they are

Bmouth,
Brighton
Colchester
Peterboruogh
Rotherham,

not without achance but hey sometime 1 is hard to get never mind5 !!!!
Report Lee_SHA September 28, 2010 5:26 PM BST
Good luck tonight Dragon.
Report The Dragon September 28, 2010 5:27 PM BST
thanks lee you get anywords of wisdom on tonight??
Report Baker32 September 28, 2010 5:33 PM BST
Lee please tell me you didn't back Cambridge on Saturday
Report Pattycake September 28, 2010 5:55 PM BST
Well I bloody did!  Had them in a treble...went 0-1 down after three minutes and that was the end of my bet.  Most disappointing! 

No Chopra or Bellamy for Cardiff tonight, but should still be far too good for a struggling Palace.
Report flatliner September 28, 2010 5:59 PM BST
1.6 and still early in the season? No thanks, very iffy.
Report flatliner September 28, 2010 6:00 PM BST
Millwall are big @6 for a derby type match.
Report Pattycake September 28, 2010 6:03 PM BST
Millwall will get drummed by the R's (imho).
Report wingy123 September 28, 2010 6:20 PM BST
same five fold as you dragon except ive got chelsea instead of bournemouth
Report HICKS September 28, 2010 6:25 PM BST
I find Championship games an absolute lottery and form seems to go out of the window. I may be wrong but away teams always seem to do well in this league regardless of form. Gl with your selections but I avoid the championship like a plague.
Report The Dragon September 28, 2010 6:27 PM BST
good luck wingy ill keep one i on the chelski game now!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Report The Dragon September 28, 2010 6:28 PM BST
thanks hicks think div 1&2 are similiar also but hey u got to go for something!!!!!!!
Report VECTIS September 28, 2010 6:49 PM BST
What about Saints at Yeovil?Iknow they have been a bit unpredictable so far this seasonShocked,but a decent win at Hillsborough on Saturday and Yeovil are in shocking form,beaten them in all previous meetings so have taken the 10/11,also chuked them in a treble with Bournemouth and Ebbsfleet,tight one the Bournemouth game but fancy home advantage to win the day,Ebbsfleet must take care of Cray wanderers at home aswell.Also a lay of Sheffield Wednesday think thay are in a bit of dissaray at the moment and Oldham are fair side ,gl with yours.
Report The Dragon September 28, 2010 6:54 PM BST
thanks vectis hope they come in for youCool
Report flatliner September 28, 2010 7:06 PM BST
i think, from memory, there was a few matches from this league on tv from last year with odds 1.6 or less getting turned over.
Report The Dragon September 28, 2010 7:07 PM BST
hope that doesnt happen tonight flatliner
Report aidan jr September 28, 2010 7:09 PM BST
Swindon
Gillingham
Sheff Wed
Scunthorpe
Report flatliner September 28, 2010 7:12 PM BST
Got £100@5.9 Millwall, gl.
Report The Dragon September 28, 2010 7:18 PM BST
wow thats a brave bet flat
Report TiredandWeary September 28, 2010 7:20 PM BST
tonight i am going for
Forest
Norwich
Portsmouth
Scunthorpe all to win
good luck all
Report The Dragon September 28, 2010 7:26 PM BST
GOOD LUCK T&W if you get them up ill mstart following u and pack this game in!!!
Report Baker32 September 28, 2010 7:29 PM BST
Having seen the Team news on The Bristol Rovers Vs Tranmere game a back of Bristol Rovers is a Must 1.97 ;)
Report jimbo27 September 28, 2010 7:45 PM BST
Baker32 sorry the reply is very late,I was at work.

We have played very well on occasions this season, Barnsley was a great performance,the ipswich game was superb and on occasions in the scunny and second half v middlesbourgh we were excellent.

on the whole though i think we have had a barrell load of luck and i think its 5 penelties already this season, now that has got to level itself out over the season(given standard of championship refs) and that is a worry.

I desperatly hope we can go up this season and have backed them each way at 11s start of the season (always back them at start of season and will just about be in profit if we go up this year)so I would hope there is more to come but i also know there is a long hard road to go.

COME ON YOU RS
Report The Dragon September 28, 2010 8:24 PM BST
watford losing 0-2Cry
Report Howdi September 28, 2010 8:25 PM BST
tipping son Laugh
Report The Dragon September 28, 2010 8:29 PM BST
glad i didnt tip it as main bet, cmon cardiff
Report Rodan September 28, 2010 8:30 PM BST
Dragon do you not like the CL?
Report The Dragon September 28, 2010 8:34 PM BST
beginning to think it dont like me rodCry
Report canaryboy September 28, 2010 8:34 PM BST
just give up
Report The Dragon September 28, 2010 8:35 PM BST
peterborough also losing 1-3 incresulous, at this rate im going back to the horsesLaugh
Report Baker32 September 28, 2010 9:40 PM BST
I listed on the other thread what I will be doing and thats laying Tranmere,Bristol City and Bradford but if your looking for Value to back a team then there is :-
Chesterfield to beat Northampton @ 3.00
Rochdale to beat Huddlesfield @ 3.10
Scunthorpe v Barnsley @ 2.28
( im NOT backing any of these but they are all value) :)

and not a penny on them lol
Report The Dragon September 28, 2010 9:43 PM BST
sods law m8, very bad night here need to rethink thisShocked
Report grobbelaar September 28, 2010 9:47 PM BST
your on a bad run dragon are u gonna tip Valencia tomo night cos i was thinking of backing them
Report maar September 28, 2010 9:50 PM BST
dragon your tips made sense prior to k.o but its a funny old game aint it?
Report flatliner September 28, 2010 9:53 PM BST
0-0 greedy, should have laid qpr instead. Sad
Report grobbelaar September 28, 2010 10:02 PM BST
Dragon did u notice how bury & coventry both won tonight think its called murphys law
Report CARDIFF1927 September 29, 2010 3:38 AM BST
Cardiff were poor again tonight, we just couldnt break palace down and they defended well in numbers, the crazy thing is we didnt even look like scoring. If our big players like bellamy and chopra aint back soon we need a plan b, because our play atm it dire.
Report whipmase September 29, 2010 12:53 PM BST
anyone who took all the advice off this thread and did the opposite would be coining it lol
Report The Dragon September 29, 2010 7:27 PM BST
ayr grob bit of a curse on me at the mo but hey must not get down, strike rate now 50 % seeif i can find one for the weekend Laugh[;)]

thanks for your comments and input guys
Report The Dragon September 29, 2010 7:28 PM BST
it is maar may start to look at perm games a liitle more to see if there is more consistancy there.
Report grobbelaar September 29, 2010 7:31 PM BST
Dragon did u see that bury & coventry both won las night takes the f***in p*ss
Report Pattycake September 29, 2010 7:31 PM BST
Stick with what you're doing, Dragon.  I'm on an appalling run at the moment, doing exactly the same as I was last season...using same prediction tools, stats analysis etc etc...and that made me a lot of money.  Just one of them things and still early in the season.

You had a decent start, you're brave enough to keep posting bets up.  It'll turn around.
Report The Dragon September 29, 2010 7:32 PM BST
i know grob we will have our revenge!!!
Report The Dragon September 29, 2010 7:52 PM BST
thanks patty hope your right!!!
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