Betting tips - Whats yout stratedgy?

email me and I'll sort you out andrewblack@betfair.com.

Ok & sorry about the spelling, don't really see how it's a issue though..

Trade before ko,ht and sometimes inplay if the time is correct.

Never bet more than 30% is a pretty good start.

Have conistently made profits for the past 9 months. Just be patient and don't go for the 1/6+ shots and you'll be fine!

Can't Email u dno if u was pulling a prank lol

That email aint legit

just back loads of winners.

Try not to over complicate things too much, mate. I tend to stick to around 15-20 bets a month, if your serious about making money on here then perhaps get yourself a little notepad/diary and keep a track of every single bet you make, what odds they were placed at and for how much, use as a referrence for where your going wrong what you can imrpove on and so on, always bet what you can afford to lose as it saves chasing, patience and discipline are key and make sure you do your research and stick to what you know, all very cliche I know, very basic but if you stick to it, you won't go too far wrong, good luck.

Yeh dunno how he'd have a @Betfair E-mail, hilarious.

Sorry that was mean of me.Just have a good exit strategy and no when to cut your losses,so you can live to fight another day.Learn to trade positions and don't be driven by greed.This time of year,stay away from friendlies,Japanese football,MLS, Women Internationals and you'll be just fine.

Yeh if i stuck o the main European leagues i shoudn't be too far wrong, i always lose alot on Brazil Serie A, should probably stop betting on anything besides. England-Italy-Spain abd maybe a bit German. I should probably start laying more teams too, as i always just go for who i fancy to win, and have never backed a draw before lol. Tbh i can't remember the last time the taem i backed got beat, it's always just draws letting me down.

Patience is the key with that though, but in the long run it's defo best i guess..

you have to make your own strategy , takes time then stick to it

fine tuning when and as needed

good luck .

@sonnyraygurnden - that's very disciplined.  Most on here (me included) would do 15-20 bets a day easily.

Definitely stay away from Brazil at the moment, that league is just too unpredictable.

lay wigan blackpool and sunderland in away matches, unless they play each other...

Don,t bet bored, don,t risk more than 5%.

watch out for trends maybe. teams on winning streaks or unbeaten teams at home. E.g Sampdoria remained unbeaten at home all of last season.

You could work out a point scoring system to rate teams for say last 5 home v last 5 away. e.g lose=0, draw=5, win=10. Its all about experimenting and putting the effort in. This is something I am looking into but obv it needs work. It may not even work but its worth a try.

record bets to see wins and loses

always stick to small percentage of bank

Also use Goal difference stats as a pointer when picking. Goals win games

Always back singles always trade when a profit can be guaranteed dont chase stay patient study form. I bet on markets that have no more than 3 outcomes ie Football Cricket Tennis. Betting in play can deliver profits if you can read the game and use your own skill and judgement. Im not making fortunes but im not losing either I look upon it as a hobby rather than an income as I just love all sports.

Friendlies are great! I make a bunce laying the favourite.

Lay spurs to finish top 4 at 4.2. FREE MUNNY

lay villa to finish top 6 at ANY odds! [;)]

Yeh i think i'm gonna try something new this year, this is what im thinking right now.

6Bets a week consisting of 4Lays & 2 Match bets..
Onglish & Spanish leagues in 5 of the bets unless i see good value.
Quit betting in the week nomatter what if i get upto 100% gain(May seem like alot but im not dealing in huge sums, smallish to start).

Ima try that first and see how it goes.

Have a staking plan based on the size of your fund; the 5%/10%/30% strategies are all good and should be considered and stick to it even when you lose; you will learn by losing and, as quoted above, keep records so that you can begin discarding bets that are just plain stupid; if you give yourself a realistic chance to win it might just happen.

How hard do u think it is to make nearish to 100% a week? The % will drop on my gain obviously when i build my bank up, but im only gonna start with about £30 tbh so making 30% is nothing.

I don't have the cash to starting at £100 etc right now.

You won't make 100% per week; don't even think about it; it won't happen.

The minimum bet is £2.00 and if you can't afford £100.00 then that should be your stake. That's my advice, your shout.

100% a week is tough, I would agree, no matter the stakes.

A consistent 5% increase on your bank a week is tough enough, forget 100%!

it depends on your edge and how many times you can turnover your money. 6 bets a week would be no good at all to me

You cannot do 100% a week though can you buzzer?  Not unless you over stake and take risks.

No but doubling your bank over a month is possible, depending on turnover of course

Yep, it is all about churning.

and the bigger the bank the harder this is to do due to liquidity in certain markets

lay the loser, back the winner, good strategy

buzzer     26 Jul 10 18:18 
and the bigger the bank the harder this is to do due to liquidity in certain markets


Agreed.

I'd say a lot fail due to not having enough time to spend on the markets so look to make larger amounts risking too large a percentage of their banks which eventually leads to them depositing again.
It's not easy and takes up a lot of your time, often when others are out enjoying the weekends, for people just wanting to make a few quid and enjoy their punting i'd just say spend your time ensuring you get the best possible price on your selections, which isn't always here especially when commission is taken into account. Open accounts with bookies and take advantage of any offers and look to the spreads and the prices they have up for the markets you're looking to punt in. If you can't even be bothered doing that just keep your stakes very small and enjoy the odd bet in games you watch, good luck.

We ought to co-wright a book as there seems to be plenty of interest in this.

you can be in charge of the grammar.

1) Stick to sports you know.
2) Look for over reactions in markets. They frequently occur, even if it is only briefly.
3) Don't do "fun" bets. If you back something it should be for a reason.

Good luck.

certainly time consuming. i trade pre match and at HT only and i can just about fit that into a day. usually enter about an hour before kick off, if there are a few games at once i chose a couple and do them at the same time. when they kick off i start on the next ones or if there's a bit of a gap i get chores etc done and if i can, get back in  at HT.

unfortunately i have to constantly monitor the markets so i spend far too much time sat on the computer. i'm worreid for my posture actually.

then at the end of the day i leave offers up overnight for the next days games and check them in the morning.

[smiley:crazy]

5% is difficult a week but easily doable with grafting

ive hit 14 and 18  but really  rare

Oh, and if you only follow one piece of advice, NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER do multiples on here. They are strictly for mugs only who don't care what price they are, hence betfair offer rubbish ones and make a fortune from them. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but it's the truth.

My advice don't bet on any friendlies except if laying the favorites as most of the time they can't be bothered or manager sticks a bunch of reserves on especially if playing away. Prime example Man City yesterday against loosing 2-1 to NY Red Bulls.

Also never bet on the following:

Woman's football
Anything Under 21
Meaningless fixtures like end of season where one team certain relegated the other mid table mediocrity.

This is my advice, also speed is key especially when looking to trade, the number of times I have saved myself 1 sec before a suspend is amazing to me even with delayed video.

instead of saying laying at 100, do 111 this may save you big time, it has for me. :) good luck.

Everyone who claims to win and tells you how is a 100% cast iron ..24 carat LOSER.

Remember the Golden Goose that lays the golden egg is NOT for sale... its sure as fukk not FREE

Good luck you sound like you might need it.

97% of punters on here LOSE.. FACT

if you're only interested in the maths it doesn't matter who's playing, what sex they are or if it finished 0-0 or 40-0

Rocket to the FACE     Joined: 28 Oct 08
Replies: 5192 26 Jul 10 19:00 
if you're only interested in the maths it doesn't matter who's playing, what sex they are or if it finished 0-0 or 40-0



Yes and you don't need to understand the sport either.

"Also never bet on the following:

Woman's football
Anything Under 21
Meaningless fixtures like end of season where one team certain relegated the other mid table mediocrity"

Well you can ignore that load of rubbish for starters.

For those who are saying i coudn't make 100% a week you need to remember my life isn't depending on these bets - It's small amounts and mainly for fun. Some of u guys seem to be talking as if you do this for a living, i don't as im only dealing in such small amounts.

For example my first stake will probably have the potential to lose me 50% of my bank, but i could gain about 17.5%. Ofcourse if my first few bets fail then i could be in trouble, but if i get off to a dcent start i should be ok.

In the world cup i made £150 from £20, that may not be much money to you lot but as you can see thats a big % gain, but ofcourse we're dealing with small numbers.

I'll see how it goes, keep the ideas coming too!

Really you're saying you're going to carry on walking down the same road you've always walked down then. If you're risking so much on one bet you'll lose your bank sooner rather than later. Good luck though

"Always back singles always trade when a profit can be guaranteed dont chase stay patient study form."

Good advice, but boredom will set in eventually. I trade now and again, and I've certainly lost out doing so. My problem is trading at the wrong time, and giving back more than I should. I'm a gambler not a trader. Winning £20-£50 a day is too boring for me. I want the big one. The boring way is time consuming and I want excitement. However, if someone is prepared to put in the long hours, they deserve a nice profit.

Folks always strive to say the right thing here for fear of ridicule. My strategy is probably all wrong, and could be torn apart by the smarter ones, but I couldn't care less. If you let others on a forum affect your posts, there is no hope for you. Not really bothered about credibility, just want to have a laugh and hope a big win comes along.

Everyone has different ideas.

By all means asks questions, take on board all the answers, but always go with what you think is best.

My strategy leaves a lot to be desired due to being extremely lazy. I am honest with myself though, not that it makes turning a profit any easier. Golf is the latest subject to take my interest, and events over the last few months give me great encouragement for the future. You can bet decent golfers at big prices and I think I can nail one at huge odds before the season is out. Well you have to keep believing. Plus, I'm really enjoying it regardless of financial gains.

Good luck Emmerson.

Good post Roller.

Emmerson take it from me if you think you've a chance of making 100% profit a week then you're going to end up dissappointed.

What do you mean by 100 percent profit? Doubling your bank every week?

I'm not thinking i'm going to make 100% every week, but i think for the first few it's possible. i think you guys are thinking to much into this, i will be staking large %'s of my bank in order to recieve these results.

Remember u lot are probably only dealing under 5% of ur bank in bets to gain 15-20% gain. First few bets i'm going to be risking 50%......I think a hell of alot of people who are dealing in smaller amounts make 100% of their bank pretty easy, it's when your talking about large sums it's harder cause your effectively dealing with money that affects your life, mine is nothing like that.

And also i see alot of people saying Study form, what exactly do u mean by this? Study the teams recent results and which players are set to play/injured, that sort of thing? Cause some of u are saying research for hours, i mean what research can u do on a match odds bet for hours lol?

fair enough Emmerson, i probably misquited you. For what it's worth here's my advice... Remember that the vast majority on here lose in the long run, read the general betting forum and sort out the wheat from the chaff and then learn, never have a bet just for the sake of it, dont chase your losses by desperately wacking up your stakes, never bet with what you can't afford to lose, learn to be selective about what you bet on, and if betting on next manager markets, Torres/Milner etc to go or stay, always remember you're likely to be betting against people at some point who have knowledge to which you have no access.

good advice, dizzydavid. [:)]

not so dizzy after all.

Cheers Sofaking but believe me I'm plenty dizzy often enough.

Only bet on long time, big volume events.  Examples are golf majors, World Cup, Tour de France.  Big volume equals big odds on some, and liquidity equals ability to back and lay.  Long time events give you a chance to trade many times.

Avoid betting on unders/overs.  It's a quick way to the poor house..

Always bet on under/overs, it is a quick way to the rich house.  tis an exchange innit.

Always bet on unders/overs[;)][;)]

I've had terrible luck with overs/unders.  If I go overs there's no goal and I need to trade out at a loss and always when I bet unders i get a goal in the first ten minutes.   It's a message from the gods for me to avoid Overs/unders I reckon. [:o]

The "advice" on this thread is very poor

I was pulling your leg just a little sofaking.  But as it happens u/o does form part of my steady profits but then again I never take the money off the book unless it has gone out of line with probabilities.

modk     29 Jul 10 17:46 
The "advice" on this thread is very poor



I have not scrolled thro it tbh.  But there must be something good here.

In all honesty the best tip is never never chase your losses. If your havin a bad day, turn off your computer and give it a break for a day or two.

In all honesty the best tip is never never chase your losses. If your havin a bad day, turn off your computer and give it a break for a day or two.

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good advice but not as easy as it sounds.

It was just a generalisation, the blind leading the blind. "Advice" offered includes, dont get greedy, dont bet what you cant afford, dont bet on xyz market.

Hows that advice going to turn a loser into a winner? Complete nonsense. Good runs aside, you will continue to feed the big fish.

With the unders/overs, is there any way of knowing if it's going to be a goal-fest or a game where everyone will struggle to score a goal and it might be 1-0 in the 90th minute? Looking back at the past Chelsea results, they've done everything from 0-0 to 8-1.

I've also seen games where the first goal is scored in the 3rd minute and then the second is scored in the 89th minute (or similar) so you can't even tell from that whether it'll be a goal-fest or not. I think they should have some gentleman's agreement to only score a fixed number of goals and at nicely interspersed periods like every 20 minutes. [smiley:crazy]

Just back phil taylor in the big tourneys live on sky. Not sure what i will do when he retires

emmerson if youre saying its the draw that usually beats you why not bet your selection with the draw no bet which you can do on here.

Emmerson in a nutshell it's about probability and how it relates to the price at which you match the bet.

good point modk

good point alex

Emmerson ,stick to a league you know well. The epl,la liga are also good leagues because of the volume.

I started playing the 1-1 score, i took notes on prices and found it paid off ,not by a lot .... but it did work .

something similar would be good ,maybe only betting when you know there is value ,sometimes you have to wait your turn until the chance arises . good luck for 2011

Any of you scalp in-game? I'm messing about with various unders/overs but it's emotionally draining. 25% yield, though.

only pre-match

These freds are interesting and can tell you a lot.  The fred entitled "where does this go wrong?" is too.

i think i've missed a lot today

my monitor packed up [:(]

Rocket to the FACE     29 Jul 10 20:20 
only pre-match

Yeah, it makes sense pre-match. Just the yield doesn't seem to be worth it unless you're willing to lump on big size... which means you need to find someone who is willing to match it in order to profit or limit a loss.

that's never a problem, hippo

Lay cap lock free money

flatliner     29 Jul 10 20:31 
Lay cap lock free money



One of the best tips I have heard in ages.  I guess I have been doing that without thinking about it.

I'm doing something wrong.

maybe i am!

Or maybe you're taking the other side of each of my trades. GIVE ME MY MONEY BACK!!! [>o]

POLICE! POLICE!

It's a stick up!

I don't joke, betfair have stolen the lot.

Oh, I see, blame the broker for your losses.[;)]

Need to blame someone.

So what's your decision with regards your betting?

Gonna test another idea I had that doesn't hurt so much if a goal is scored. Problem with forward-testing is getting a decent sample size before you run out of money.

Perversely, I hope that I lose so I can see what problems I come up against before I think about going big.

lol bouncy

"I should probably start laying more teams too, as i always just go for who i fancy to win, and have never backed a draw before lol. Tbh i can't remember the last time the taem i backed got beat, it's always just draws letting me down."

Maybe look at draw no bet and asian handicaps then? You might turn a loss into a profit if a lot of your bets would have been a push.

I agree about always backing singles though I'd say (almost) never take a profit when a profit can be guaranteed. That's because I prefer to let all my bets run their course. It's hard enough to spot value before a game starts without trying to spot it in running. I appreciate that skilled traders will disagree though.

I prefer to price markets up myself and then see if I can get better than what I feel is the "true" price. I'm happy to place bets that I don't fancy at all if I'm confident the price is wrong.

EMMERSON i have a strategy, but i tell you, then thousands will find out the strategy and then i wont have any strategy LOL

I dont really think anyone is going to share a their own moneymaking strategy. If they give it to you its either

1) not a great strategy (they aint made much money from it)
2) a different strategy suggestion to what they use themselves.


you have to find your own strategy. Experiments with different type of markets from different sports and you probably find a decent strategy. But even then its tough to make money in the long run . you need some knowledge but also luck

I'm crap at trading - standard in-play 1X2 bets work best for me. To echo what others said, never chase your losses and try to keep your composure. whenever I had a big loss, it's always due to bad psychology, trying to chase.

yeah you need keep compsure,discipline & not chase

ALL THE ABOVE I DONT HAVE. some people are good at it, most arent

im in the former group. ive been betting for 13 year, still cant do the right things

The bookies make money from laying favourites. If you can do that successfully then you could make some good money.

put it all on black.[:p]

My tip would be to bet against teams you don't like, be they local rivals, Scottish teams, teams in the Israeli first division... take your pick and stick to your principles.
Cheers.
rob_heidelberg

go rob the racist

i_steal_kills     30 Jul 10 01:47 
put it all on black.

No. Red. I did it and won £25.