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By:
wolber
When: 02 Nov 09 14:47
not supposed to advertise on here as it will be classed as spamming but the bot is called golden rule
By:
Jazza
When: 02 Nov 09 15:54
Cheers... I'll have a look at it.
By:
JUGADOR MEJOR
When: 08 Nov 09 08:52
Jazza did you have a look at it or not.
By:
Jazza
When: 08 Nov 09 11:19
No not yet mate.....testing others at the moment and my old laptop dies if I run too many at once.

Are you still using it?
By:
JUGADOR MEJOR
When: 10 Nov 09 23:36
Had loads of successful green outs, however needed to press bet on some occassions.
By:
GodImBroke
When: 20 Nov 09 00:13
spade hasnt won in last 9 and club in last 7
By:
JUGADOR MEJOR
When: 20 Nov 09 00:13
where are you jazza?
By:
Robinam
When: 22 Nov 09 08:50
wolber wrote:
"tried everything and the only three strategies that work on games are

the derby game (only one winner no ties , not multiple ways to win either loads of ops to trade etc)
Lay the post handicap fav trade out asap

and Holdem poker (only lay hands that have higher kickers in other hands when the hand cant make a straight or a flush ..)

BlackJack lay only one has 21 pre deal and trade out

simple

derby game is the best though if you have the patience you can make money on this"


Question: are you using a bot to trade out for you ?
Or just all manual ?

Especially with blackjack I am looking to get the right amount betted to trade out. Manual trading so far, but 10-20€ an hour is what I achieve ....
By:
Flutter_kid
When: 22 Nov 09 13:43
Robinam - what are your criteria for trading out on the blackjack? I'm sure you could automate it using x-feeder. I've experimented with quite a few methods on blackjack so i might have a trigger quite similar to what you need!
By:
JUGADOR MEJOR
When: 22 Nov 09 16:19
I have tried and tested the blackjack strategy, unfortunately like most others it does not show a profit long term.
By:
FINE AS FROG HAIR
When: 22 Nov 09 18:04
On any and all Xgames, trading out does not create value odds in any form or manner.
Therefore, as a strategy in itself per se, it is not viable and never will be.
You can have all the patience in the world to wait for certain criteria, but in the long run it will be to no purpose.
Using a bot on such a strategy will take out the pain of waiting but that's all it will do.
By:
Robinam
When: 22 Nov 09 20:42
that is correct....
one can not risk putting money on a lay bet. As one is often trading out in order to reduce possible losses. So: one risks a lot of money and only has minor profits. In the long run... no good.

I just have been on a roll with luck, making 90€ within a couple hours.
But I had big drawdowns when I was just "unlucky" and had to catch it up again.

On the website of x-feeder someone wrote he has the 100% win strategy.... hmmm ... maybe yes, maybe no.
By:
FINE AS FROG HAIR
When: 22 Nov 09 20:51
100% ?
Most definitely no imo.
Not even theoretically possible.
By:
Robinam
When: 23 Nov 09 09:13
what do you think about this approach ? :
texas holde em, lay the lowest odds before the pre-flop.
but NO trading out.
think one can win in the long run ?

or simply bail out when 2-3 wins in a row for that session or day ?
might work if one is not too greedy ???
By:
Grunweld
When: 23 Nov 09 10:31
Robinam, your strategy of laying pre-flop fav. will not return a long-term profit. I can absolutely guarantee that.

The best idea is to experiment with positive staking progressions:
Increase after a winner and either set to base stake after a loser or reduce by a fixed percentage. For roughly evens bets then something like Fibonacci might work: 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21.....

For shorter than evens then a more gentler progression might work: 1,1,1,1.5,2,3,5,7,10,13,17,21....
By:
Robinam
When: 23 Nov 09 10:44
even with a bot... do not think there is a long-time winning strategy too. been looking and searching, trying out the whole weekend.

i suppose best idea is still to play any game, roulette, texas holdem, etc. any game and quit for the day when 2 units in profits.

one will always catch a streak at some point and then to just stop when 2 wins in a row and 2 units plus is the discipline.
By:
Robinam
When: 23 Nov 09 10:45
if however there is someone who is making consistent wins - would be great to know how you do it.... hehe thank you
By:
JTMTD1976
When: 27 Nov 09 03:58
on the derby game are you playing against another punter like the sports betting or is it like the multiples where you bet againt betfair itself
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