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Martin Adams Phil Taylor- the debate is over.
Martin Adams Phil Taylor- the debate is over.
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I think it's pretty much obvious that Taylor is the more accomplished artist, but as an all-round sportsman then it has to be Wolfie all day long. He is an exceptionally popular character within the darts world and without, unlike Phil who has rubbed up many of his fellow pro's the wrong way. Also, due to the fact that Taylor plies his trade on Sky with their modest audiences while Martin plays to millions every year then i think he is the first person 9/10 Brits would name when asked to name a dartsman. Phil could walk down any street unnoticed whereas Adams can't go 6 yards.
So overall the stats don't lie....Taylor Is the be better player, but Adams is the face of darts. |
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I would have thought more people watch Sky's darts than the BDO. (A shame, but there we are).
In my shop I've taken NO bets on the BDO. There was loads of interest in the PDC. As for the first person mentioned when asked to name a dartsman, I would think less than 1 in 100 would mention Adams first. Unless your post was tongue-in-cheek, Phil could walk down any street unnoticed whereas Adams can't go 6 yards. is so naive and wrong I nearly didn't put this post up. Taylor - Past nominee for SPOTY, Winner of BDO as well, Plies his trade on ITV as well as Sky, top of the tree for over 20 years, newsworthy, features on chat and panel shows. Barney, Part, Bristow, and others from the past would all be miles more recognisable than Adams. Who other than in January doesn't even bother to play in other TV events, even if he is eligible. And here I am debating the no-debatable. |
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[i]Unless your post was tongue-in-cheek[/i]
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Maybe I'm not noticing the subtlety, tobe.
 Or Maybe it was serious. |
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Thanks for the laugh. Adams is a big fish in big pond seen once a year. Taylor is an exceptional player 5-10% better than anyone. The only comparison to his domination is Bradman or the squash players who dominated fora decade or more. Three world championships against fifteen. Ha ha ha !!!!!!!!!L!
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"Its an accepted fact now that the bdo boards are slightly more difficult. look at waites,s averages in the grand slam compared to his lakeside averages. also more bounce outs on the bdo boards"
It's not an "accepted fact" at all. And the BDO have changed their boards anyway. Waites played well at the GSOD (although he only hit a 92 average against Webster)- possibly because he was defending champion, possibly because against the likes of Taylor, Thornton and MVG he had to (not to mention the fact that their high averages can help the opponents averages on legs they don't play well in). Tony O'Shea averaged about the same as he's averaged this tournament. Infact, look at Taylor's averages at the PDC world Championship. He was struggling at 94 and 90 for the first half of the tournament before lifting it to above 100 and playing superbly in the final. |
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Aleksandr Karelin still stands tall as the most dominant figure in any sport
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how many 9 darters has this karelin ever done, im guessing he was before my time as ive never heard of him
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like as it has happened in every other sport, advancement in technology means higher averages, hence it is a lot easier to hit trebles cos of the how thin the darts are etc
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A lot of nonsense on this thread
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I cant believe the debate about more difficult boards/bigger trebles is still going. All it takes is someone to get the two boards and measure them and post the results, surely some dart fanatic has done this by now?
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yeah but rod harrington was banned so he didnt post the results
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it will be interesting to see what happens to scottys average if he turns proffessional.
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Both masters and pro eclipse doubles and trebles are the same size. That includes the bullseye. Waites average would have to increase to stand toe to toe with the majority of pdc players in the floor events. Mentally, the pro players know a sub 90 average will see them lose the majority of matches.
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the bdo is a far better watching spectacle .................... it has me creased up every year watching it !!!
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Nowt funny about it. These lads give their all as well as holding down a day job. BDO = Proper darts, proper players :)
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its a good point. if barney had remained a postman i doubt hed have been able to get christmas off every year to play darts
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I assume now Richie George is out, this pretty much ends the other debate of who is the best up and coming player, Van Gerwen or George
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itfc- interesting topic. MVG has been around longer so has achieved more at this stage but i seem to remember he didnt get anywhere near a lakeside semi when in BDO. i will wait a year or two before committing to an opinion as richie has achieved alot in a short time but needs to show this season isnt a one off. This could be thread to look back on in ten years,
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Adams had 105 average at county today
 Have we written off the great man too soon  |
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MVG's was tearing up trees as a teenager. He's miles ahead of Richie George as things stand. Some players come to the fore early in their career and fizzle out. Others appear on the scene much later in life and still produce the goods. Hunger, determination and bottle is something you cant buy.
Yet more players in their 40's getting tour cards via this year's Q School system. Richie's lucky to have a sponsor, unlike so many players who are good enough but unable to get funded. P.S. Top darts Wolfie! I was following Warwickshire v Devon on darts for windows. P.P.S. MVG won the BDO World Wasters as a 16 year old, played in 1 bdo worlds then switched to pdc...etc....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_van_Gerwen |