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On Wednesday the 22nd of October the official 2015 Tour de France route was revealed in Paris. Speaking from the Team Sky team-building camp in Weymouth, Chris Froome gave his first impressions of the 2015 route. Here's what the 29 year old Team Sky leader had to say:
"There's no two ways about it, next year's Tour is going to be about the mountains. There's very little emphasis on time trialling which means the race will be decided up in the high mountains. With 6 mountaintop finishes it is going to be an aggressive and massively demanding race." The 2015 edition has little opportunity for riders to make significant gains on their rivals in time trials with a time trial stage one of only 13.7km and a team time trial of 28km on stage nine. This is notably less than in recent editions of the Tour de France. Froome's participation in the 2015 Tour de France is not certain, as he explains: "The team and I will have to give it some careful consideration before we make any commitments to which of the grand tours I will compete in. I see myself as quite a balanced GC rider and the Giro with it's inclusion of a long TT of 60km and tough uphill finishes will make it a well balanced race which suits me well. If I did the Giro I may also be able to get myself back to top shape for the Vuelta and go there with a realistic chance of aiming for the win". "In the past I've only targeted one grand tour each season but it could be a good opportunity for me to focus seriously on two. It's still early days though and we'll have to sit down and put our heads together as a team to work out what 2015 is going to look like for us." The Grand Depart in Utrecht, Holland on the 4th of July will see the riders off on their three week quest for the maillot jaune, passing through Belgium before entering Northern France on stage four. Stage five will have the riders tackle cobble sectors from the infamous spring classic Paris-Roubaix. Froome's bid for the 2014 title came to an abrupt end after a series of crashes in which his wrist and hand were fractured forcing him out of the race. His withdrawal from the race came on the wet roads of stage five which also later contained cobble sectors. When asked about the inclusion of cobbles on stage five of the 2015 edition, he sounded upbeat "I actually quite enjoy the challenge of riding on the cobbles. It's a difficult and stressful obstacle for us to overcome when it's part of a race like the Tour de France, but we're all in the same boat and there's no reason why I'd be any worse off than any of the other GC contenders". He continued "The cobbles were not the cause of my departure from the Tour this year, it was the crash on the previous stage which could have happened to anybody. I was in the wrong place at the wrong time". Who will be Froome's biggest rival if he does line up for the Tour? "We'll have to see who's going to be there but I think Alberto Contador will be the man to beat. You can never discount the likes of Nairo Quintana, Vincenzo Nibali and other GC contenders like Purito (Rodriguez) and Valverde. Alberto is the guy who stands out though. He came back after his injury in an amazing way to win the Vuelta España title this year and I expect him to be just as strong next season" - Chris Froome. |
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From Utrecht to Paris:
- 9 flat stages |
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From Utrecht to Paris:
- 9 flat stages - 3 hilly stages - 7 mountain stages - 5 summit finishes - 1 ITT - 1 TTT |
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x28ceiz_le-tour-2015-en-3d-le-tour-2015-in-3d_sport
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L’ALPE D’HUEZ !
Etape 20 on the 25th July Modane > Alpe d’Huez comes just 24 hours before Paris. |
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Going down to the wire
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A few to mention......
Alberto Contador 11/4 Chris Froome 11/4 Nairo Quintana 10/3 Vincenzo Nibali 6 Thibaut Pinot 33 Rafal Majka 40 Joaquim Rodriguez 80 Alejandro Valverde 100 |
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http://www.letour.fr/le-tour/2015/us/stage-20.html
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The 18 bends of Montvernier, set to enter the legend of the Tour de France.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=The+18+bends+of+Montvernier&FORM=HDRSC2#view=detail&id=61E87244F27335AC72CEF5C190695B8D3E0B86A5&selectedIndex=0 http://www.letour.fr/le-tour/2015/us/stage-18.html |
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You have to think Tinkov has bunged them a few schillings for 14k of TT.
He's not an automatic choice but Tony Pozzovivo should be eyeing this up. As always you can't look at Contador as you can't put your money on someone likely to be popped. Otherwise you'd think he should be odds on? |
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Far too early to be taking any strong positions about this.
Any of the big four can win this. Quintana and Froome are actually probably the best out-and-out climbers but Nibali and Contador are far more streetwise and tactically astute. Moreover, there's a good chance we won't see all four line up. Froome could target the other two GTs and there's no guarantee any of them will be fit. As things stand I'd make Froome the least likely winner of the four, but a lot can change before July. |
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Disagree with you there on the first point. We've seen a glowing Bertie comfortably beat Quintana & Froome without seemingly drawing breath.
Another problem with predicting early is we aren't 100% sure that Astana & Tinkov are going to be around next season, at least in the form of being controlled by Vino & Riis. I wonder if Nibali's comments about riding Argentina with the Italian squad if Astana don't participate is a nudge in that direction. |
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Lance Armstrong having to pay a record $10m (£6.5m) in damages after losing lawsuit
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So far I've backed two antepost - Nibali 6/1 and Pinot 40/1 each way
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Quintana 7/2 Porte 200/1 ew and Rodriguez 100/1 ew
Nibali might have the tour won after stage 2, otherwise I think you will get better odds during the race. I know Nibali has finished 1st, 2nd, 1st in his last 3 grand tour attempts but he has shown nothing for 12 months. The good thing about him is he will never stop trying things even if he can't climb with the best and no ITT suits him as well I guess. Why you keen on Nibali mc? |
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I do concede if you liked one of the 4 favourites, Nibali would be the one you would want going for you before stage 2. If you like the other 3, it might pay to wait until after stage 2 before getting too involved. Or at least waiting to see what the weather is doing on that day.
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Quintana and Nibali for me will play nearer the date
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Wonder if Swinging will be around this year always Liked reading His write ups
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I think it is important to analyze what could win and lose this Tour de France. For me the important things will be:
Team strengthThis is always important but far more so this year. The TTT will be critical. Rather than at the start of the tour it comes after 8 straight days of racing when legs will already be hurting, and cruelly, has several climbs including the final Cote de Cadoudal which is 1.7km @ 6.2%. Making sure you get 5 men over the line in the quickest time possible could be tough here, and some teams could really suffer and lose time if their 5th man is suffering. You need at least 5 strong climbers here. All four of the leading contenders will be likely to have strong teams for this but Astana are definitely strong. Experience We don't get into the mountains until Day 10 but the first 8 stages can be characterised as "tricky". The ITT up front should be neither here nor there (although I expect they will finish Froome-Nibali-Bertie-Quintana) which means individual time-trialling ability is virtually unecessary in this Tour, but there are several other possible pitfalls over the next few days. Stages 2 and 6 have strong possiblility for crosswinds and chevrons. Stages 3, 6 and 8 have uphill finishes where the unwary/unready could lose time. Stage 4 has several cobbled sections. Add in the complication of teams hunting stage wins, the sprint teams trying to boss the peloton on the flat stages and the general early nervousness at Grand Tours and you have the potential for crashes and time losses. In my eyes Nibali and Contador have an advantage over Froome and Quintana here. They are wiser, smarter, better bike handlers and have better instincts. Moreover, Nibali's classics experience means he has a better knowledge of these types of stages. He might not necessarily make time over these stages (although I'm sure he is targeting the cobbles again) but he is the least likely to crash out or lose time. If Quintana and/or Froome get through the first 10 days and are still in contention they would be a big danger, but Astana know that and I think they will try and serve it up in the early section of the race to try and maximise any advantage Nibali has on those early stages. Climbing There is a lot of climbing in this tdf. Having said that, there aren't too many stages where we will see big time gaps. Stage 12 is probably the first with the HC summit finish at Plateau de Beille. Stage 17 is the same as the stage Bardet won in the Dauphine that finishes on Pra Loup. Stage 19 has 4 big climbs and finishes on the Cat 1 La Toussuire and Stage 20 is the Alpe d'Huez summit finish. These are the probably the stages where this GT will be won and lost. With all four men at their absolute peak I would have Nibali the weakest of the four in terms of climbing. Having said that, I don't think there is much in it. To me Nibali has planned his training completely in order to peak for this defence of the yellow jersey. He looked good during the Dauphine but to me was clearly using it as race-training and wasn't fully tuned up at that point. When he dropped off near the end of climbs on two big stages it was as if he had reached the level he wanted and just eased back as opposed to suffering and going into the red at that early stage of his training. Froome was near top-level and we saw Bertie was in the Giro. You can't really say Froome winning the Dauphine a month before the Tour is a negative, Sky have done that twice before, but it's a different case with Bertie and the Giro. I don't know whether he is capable of staying at peak but personally I see having ridden and won the Giro as a negative. Who knows what sort of shape Quintana is in? He is probably the most natural climber of the 4 and seemed like he was in decent nick at the Route du Sud but I would want a far better price to back him at this stage. Descending When Nibali is at his best he is the most natural and aggressive descenders of the 4 big men. This could play a big part in this Tour. We saw Bardet make 1min 20 seconds over the peloton during the descent off Col d'Allos in the Dauphine prior to the climb at Pra Loup and this gap was not pegged back despite the Sky train going full eyes out and then Froome attacking in the last few kms. Although Nibali rode that descent with restrain during that race I'm confident he will attack here and we could see the same sort of gaps, or worse if it's wet. Moreover, this is not the only key descent during this race. There's the long descent off the Tourmalet on Stage 11 before the short final climb of Cauterets, Stage 16 sees us come off the Col de Manse into Gap and the next day (Stage 17) we see the descent Bardet attacked on. I'm confident Nibali will see all these as opportunities to make time on his rivals. Bertie is a good descender, as is Quintana. Froome is OK. None are as fast as Nibali. So to summarise, I see Froome and Quintana as natural climbers who will look to gain time on the summit finishes of Stages 12, 17, 19 and 20. Bertie and Nibali know to win this they will probably have to make time in other ways, and will be on the lookout for ways to ambush the Sky and Movistar men (and each other). Cobbles and crosswinds are early opportunities and the descents in the latter part of the race could also help. The team time trial could be crucial as well, although all four big contenders have strong climbing lineups so it may be the other teams that lose out there (FDJ, BMC, Katusha?). So I feel that the race could be won by an 'ambush' style rider, rather than a natural climber and I favour Nibali over Betie for two main reasons. 1) Price - Nibali is more than twice the price. 2) The Giro - I feel that at some stage the Giro will take its toll on the legs and Bertie will pay during this GT. |
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No l'halp d'huez because of a landslide this year.
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I was wrong, no col du telegraphe and no col du galiebier because of the landslide but still finish at l'alpe d'huez.
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Marcel Kittel will not be riding the Tour this year
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Col Du Galibier is replaced by a climb up the Croix de Fer
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I think Nibali is a massive back to lay. The first week in this year's TDF (up to TTT really) is going to be mayhem and I can see Nibali being two mins clear like it was last year. Pave (God help Quintana), Mur de Huy, Mur de Britania and cross winds are all going to play to the italian's strengths
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Interesting mc, thanks.
Chris Froome has stated that he thinks the GC race doesn't start until stage 10. It looks like he might be in damage limitation mode up until that time. The first 10 stages might be an opportunity for Contador and especially Nibali to attempt to put time into Froome and Quintana. CD might be onto something with a back to lay call on Nibali. Maybe riders like Costa and Uran could also do well in the first 9 stages. Hopefully Quintana's expedition over the cobbles earlier in the season will serve him well on stage 2. Moreover hopefully the weather stays fine for the tricky stages. |
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I really can't emphasise enough how demanding the first section of this Tour will be. I genuinely don't think there has ever been a start to the Tour that is as demanding - mentally as well as physically - and there's every chance we will see whole swathes of the peloton taken out.
Stage 2 This goes across 3 dykes and finishes on the Neeltje Jans Dam. The last 40kms are about as exposed a stage as I can remember. On the dam there is a plaque that says "Here the tide is ruled by the wind, the moon and us". And the wind is said to often get up to 40mph. If it blows, and it probably will, echelons will form and we could see contenders lose huge amounts of time here. This is an unbelievable way to start a GT. Stage 3 Although this resembles La Fleche Wallone becuase it finishes on the Mur de Huy it should be very different. It's almost 50km shorter and with fewer preceeding climbs. This should mean the bunch at the end is bigger, and this could be carnage. Positioning is all important for this climb and the run-in is tricky and narrow. We saw enough crashes in Fleche Wallone, this has the potential for more. Everyone has to be on guard or it could be race over. Stage 4 This is the longest stage on the Tour, as well as having 8 cobbled sections. Although he won't have the same element of surprise as last year I still expect Nibali to make big time over the other GC guys here but again anything could happen here, especially if it rains. Stage 5 Looks innocuous but characterised by ls of street furniture and potential for crosswinds. Any GC riders thinking today is an offday could be in for a big shock. Stage 6 This is probably the first day where the GC guys won't lose any sleep but even here there is the potential for crosswinds and there is an uphill finish in Le Havre. Stage 7 Flat stage Stage 8 A grandstand finish to the hardest opening 8 days of a GT I can remember. The finish at Mur de Bretagne is not quite as steep as Huy but twice as long. Positioning will be a key factor and crashes in the run-in are all but guaranteed. GC riders will be pushed into a delicate balance of not losing time but still trying not to empty themselves. Stage 9 I love this quote from Robert Millar about this course "28km might not seem much but it's heavy going around here. You can't let anyone down in the TTT, not yourself, not your team-mates. It all makes the pressure even greater to do your work, take your turn or just hang on. Painful if you are strong, purgatory if you aren't. The reason no-one smiles beforehand? Everyone is worried." And this is no normal TTT. It comes after 8 days. And not just any 8 days, it comes after a ridiculously hard 8 days. And, it has a killer final climb. The last time a stage finished on this climb it was won by Valverde in 2008, which gives an idea of the steepness of the final climb. This stage will be epic. And then we have a rest day. Mental first 9 stages. Stage 10 This is where the GC really gets going, with the summit finish at La Pierre-St-Martin. I am convinced that not all of the main contenders will make it to this stage however. There are a few reasons this particular stage is interesting: a) it comes right after the rest day, and some riders to not respond to rest days well 2) the first 140km are very flat. This HC climb will come as a massive shock to the system and the change of rhythm could be too much for some riders 3) It is Bastille Day. If Froome and Quintana are still here and in contention after Stage 10 they will be massive threats but the start as above is huge. It is brutal. Stages 12, 19 and 20 are built for those two, and if they haven't crashed out or lost too much time they will make the rest pay. Big "If" though in my eyes. They both will still have to pass the Nibali descending test though to win. Nibali is definitely back-to-lay material, although he also my idea of the winner. Other possible back-to-lays are Valverde and Dan Martin. |
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My book is:
Froomered Quintana red Field [colour=green]green[/green] Nibali [colour=green]big green[/green] Valverde [colour=green]bigger green[/green] Dan Martin [colour=green]biggest green[/green] |
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that didnt work
Froome red Quintana red Field green Nibali big green Valverde bigger green Dan Martin biggest green |
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lots of speciality markets available with pp
7/4 Pinot to win a stage appeals , his time trialling is pants so may be allowed a stage win by GC contenders |
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What does everyone reckon, shall we do the same thing as the Giro and have a different thread for each stage?
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that would be fantastic if you have the time please mc
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nearly ready to go
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Sky:
Chris Froome, Geraint Thomas, Ian Stannard, Wout Poels, Nico Roche, Leopold Konig, Pete Kennaugh, Luke Rowe & Richie Porte. I like this team. First they have 6 Brits (although that is counting Brum-born Roche and Kenyan-born Froome so cheating a little bit). There is a good combination of climbing power and flat strength. It is going to be absolutely crucial to get 9 men through to the TTT. Any teams that have lost riders by that stage will suffer that day. |
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2015 » 102nd Tour de France (2.UWT)
![]() This should be an absolute stunner of a race. We have got four absolutely top class GC riders all facing off on what could be the best parcours for many years. Ultimately, this race has heaps of climbing, and with the lack of TT miles it will suit the best climbers with mountaintop finishes on Stages 10, 12, 17, 19 and 20. It also has other uphill finishes that may not lead to big time gaps but should be entertaining on Stages 3, 6, 8, 11 and 14. Although the winner of this year's Tour will almost definitely be the rider who is strongest in the mountains, he will have to get through the first 10 stages first, and these look particularly nasty, especially the first week's Classics based trilogy. ![]() After the Grand Depart ITT in Utrecht we have a stage that from Utrecht to Zeeland, that follows the North Sea and is begging for crosswinds and echelons. Next we see a stage that resembles La Fleche Wallone and finishes on the Mur de Huy. Following that the riders take on the cobbles in a stage from Seraing to Cambrai. Any of these three stages could see the race over for one of the big favourites. We then have a busy flat stage where the wind could blow but might end in a sprint, a chaotic flat stage with a punchers’ finish in Le Havre, a true flat stage and then another uphill finish at Mur de Bretagne. The team time trial comes on Day 9, where legs will already be very sore. The climb at the end should see big time gaps. Every man lost during the first 8 days will be crucial, because it will make the TTT harder, and we could see some very ragged looking teams at the end. Finally, the riders get a rest day, but this too could provide problems because Stage 10 after it has an HC climb at the end. ![]() After that we have Pyrenean climbs, transitional stages that all look interesting and different before a lot of Alpine climbing with accompanying descents towards the end of the race. The last mountain stage sees us go (back) over the Croix de Fer and L'Alpe D'Huez so the GC may well be decided on the penultimate day of the race. ![]() As well as first week of classic style races, we have a number of other changes this year. We have time bonuses for winning stages in the first week, and we have a change to the points classification to reward winners of true flat (super sprint) stages. This is to try and get the green jersey on the back of the most explosive sprinter, rather than the most consistent and may lead to Sagan having his work cut out to win it again. ![]() All in all this should be a brilliant Grand Tour. Despite the plethora of climber-friendly stages, I think the 2015 Tour de France will be won by someone who combines team strength and experience, who can avoid crashing out or losing time in the first week and I think Vincenzo Nibali is that man. Admittedly, Quintana and Froome will be big threats if they are still in contention after the TTT but it might be worth waiting until the first rest day before backing those two. It remains to be seen if Contador will be able to find top level after this Giro win but if he can retain/regain top form for three weeks he will be a force. Tour de France Winners 2014 | NIBALI Vincenzo 2013 | FROOME Christopher 2012 | WIGGINS Bradley 2011 | EVANS Cadel 2010 | SCHLECK Andy 2009 | CONTADOR Alberto 2008 | SASTRE Carlos 2007 | CONTADOR Alberto 2006 | PEREIRO Oscar 2000 | ARMSTRONG Lance Top-10 2014 Tour de France 1.NIBALI Vincenzo 89:59:06 2.PERAUD Jean-Christophe 7:37 3.PINOT Thibaut 8:15 4.VALVERDE Alejandro 9:40 5.VAN GARDEREN Tejay 11:24 6.BARDET Romain 11:26 7.KöNIG Leopold 14:32 8.ZUBELDIA Haimar 17:57 9.TEN DAM Laurens 18:11 10.MOLLEMA Bauke 21:15 Startlist http://www.procyclingstats.com/race/Tour_de_France_2015-startlist ![]() Stage-by-Stage Saturday 4th July Stage 1 (ITT) - Utrecht › Utrecht (13.8k) Sunday 5th July Stage 2 - Utrecht › Neeltje Jans (166k) *Super Sprint* Monday 6th July Stage 3 - Antwerpen › Huy (159.5k)*Sprint* Tuesday 7th July Stage 4 - Seraing › Cambrai (223.5k)*Sprint* Wednesday 8th July Stage 5 - Arras › Amiens (189.5k) *Super Sprint* Thursday 9th July Stage 6 - Abbeville › Le Havre (191.5k) *Super Sprint* Friday 10th July Stage 7 - Livarot › Fougères (190.5k) *Super Sprint* Saturday 11th July Stage 8 - Rennes › Mûr-de-bretagne (181.5k)*Sprint* Sunday 12th July Stage 9 (TTT) - Vannes › Plumelec (28k) Tuesday 14th July Stage 10 - Tarbes › La Pierre-Saint-Martin (167k) Wednesday 15th July Stage 11 - Pau › Cauterets (188k) Thursday 16th July Stage 12 - Lannemezan › Plateau de Beille (195k) Friday 17th July Stage 13 - Muret › Rodez (198.5k)*Sprint* Saturday 18th July Stage 14 - Rodez › Mende (178.5k)*Sprint* Sunday 19th July Stage 15 - Mende › Valence (183k) *Super Sprint* Monday 20th July Stage 16 - Bourg-de-Péage › Gap (201k)*Sprint* Tuesday 22nd July Stage 17 - Digne-Les-Bains › Pra-Loup (161k) Wednesday 23rd July Stage 18 - Gap › St-Jean-de-Maurienne (186.5k) Thursday 24th July Stage 19 - St-Jean-de-Maurienne › La Toussuire - Les Sybelles (138k) Friday 25th July Stage 20 - Modane › l'Alpe d'Huez (110.5k) Saturday 26th July Stage 21 - Sèvres › Paris (109.5k) *Super Sprint* Favourites ![]() Froome 2/1 Quintana 5/2 Contador 4/1 Nibali 11/2 Pinot 28/1 Van Garderen 33/1 Valverde 66/1 Majka 66/1 Bardet 66/1 Porte 66/1 http://www.oddschecker.com/cycling/tour-de-france/winner ![]() Sagan 10/11 Kristoff 4/1 Cavendish 13/2 Degenkolb 12/1 Matthews 25/1 Bouhanni 25/1 Coquard 25/1 Greipel 33/1 Boassen Hagen 66/1 Demare 80/1 http://www.oddschecker.com/cycling/tour-de-france/points-classification *pay attention to place terms in this market as many bookmakers are only paying 2 places on each way bets ![]() Quintana 11/2 Rolland 10/1 Contador 11/1 Froome 11/1 Rodriguez 16/1 Arredondo 16/1 Pinot 20/1 Bardet 25/1 Hesjedal 28/1 Barguil 28/1 http://www.oddschecker.com/cycling/tour-de-france/king-of-the-mountains ![]() Quintana 4/7 Pinot 5/1 Bardet 10/1 Kelderman 20/1 Barguil 25/1 Kwiatowski 25/1 S Yates 33/1 A Yates 50/1 http://www.oddschecker.com/cycling/tour-de-france/young-rider-classification ![]() Posters 2015 ![]() ![]() ![]() 2014 ![]() 2013 ![]() 2012 ![]() 2011 ![]() 2010 ![]() 2009 ![]() 2008 ![]() 2007 ![]() 2006 ![]() |
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Kennaugh strikes me as the ideal type of rider for Sky to mix things up by sending him up the road in breaks, whether they would rather stick to their usual formula of keeping all eight with Froome is another matter.
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Nibali in the outright market and Cav in the points market both being backed which is pleasing to see.
Be interesting to see if we have any late withdrawals from the Tour with the introduction of 24-hr testing... |
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Sky's line-up looks super strong, they should go well on the climbs and win the TTT. Froome could have over a minute on Quintana before stage 10, just from stage 1 and stage 9 alone. Astana and Tinkoff teams look strong too. Astana are possibly geared more toward the TTT/medium mountains (with a bit more diesel) whereas Tinkoff look like they will have a bit more support for Contador in the high mountains but also have a strong TTT team on paper. Movistar usually struggle in TTT's outside Spain but I think they can hold their own against Astana and Tinkoff on this course. Movistar have the current British, Italian and Spanish national TT champs on their team so they could be in for a good TTT if they can find the right balance/rhythm on this hilly course.
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PP going 8/1 for Sky to win the TTT 4th favourites, which is an absolutely awesome price. They price it up like this:
Etixx 5/4 BMC 5/2 Movistar 9/2 Sky 8/1 In my eyes Sky have got by far the best squad for this and should be favourites. Of course how many men you have left after the first 8 stages is hugely important but Sky have 4 very strong time triallers in Froome, Thomas, Porte and Konig and also have 7 men who are strong climbers. Only Rowe and Stannard don't really fall into this category. They are the only team who should definitely have men left on the Plumulec. Unfortunately I can only have £7.11 on |
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T.Martin, Kwiatkowski and Uran is as strong of a trio as you will get in a TTT like this but I agree that this TTT will probably be more about strength in numbers. I hope the price holds up for Sky and all their riders make it to the stage 9 start line.
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