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Report johnnythebull January 7, 2020 1:43 PM GMT
detraveller 07 Jan 20 13:39 
That is a temporary arrangement johnny. Smith is only their for 3 months. They just did all that so they didn't lose the sponsorshp

wasn't aware of that..det..what happens after 3 months?
Report Cardinal Scott January 7, 2020 1:43 PM GMT
OUT!

Report detraveller January 7, 2020 1:45 PM GMT

Jan 7, 2020 -- 1:43PM, johnnythebull wrote:


detraveller 07 Jan 20 13:39  That is a temporary arrangement johnny. Smith is only their for 3 months. They just did all that so they didn't lose the sponsorshpwasn't aware of that..det..what happens after 3 months?


same ol shet

Report johnnythebull January 7, 2020 1:46 PM GMT
vdD making Boycs look like DreRuss!
Report Cardinal Scott January 7, 2020 1:46 PM GMT
Report Kelly January 7, 2020 1:49 PM GMT
Some draw backers must be sitting on a nice book . I thought 34 was a good price when SA started out their 2nd innings , but I see some were punting at 70 plus . Looking good now , wicket doing nothing ( the bowlers also look like they have run out of steam ).
Report detraveller January 7, 2020 1:51 PM GMT
Actually I don't know what happens to Bouch and Kallis. But Smith was just appointed for 3 months.

CSA has been going in loss for ages now, thanks to corruption. Last month they lost it and stopped 5 journalists from covering a game. The journos bought normal tickets and went in and were allowed into the media box anyways. The week after, the sponsors threatened CSA they would withdraw their support(wtf are they making anyways?). There was a high level meeting between management and sponsors. CEO was fired but people say the whole structure that facilitates the corruption is still there.

Boucher is now the boss of a black coach who was trained to be a coach and was next in line apparently. Even if Bouch was a long term coach, he isn't going to last long with that kind of an appointment in south africa.

kallis is just a friend bouch called up to be around.
Report johnnythebull January 7, 2020 1:55 PM GMT
you reap what you sow
Report Cardinal Scott January 7, 2020 1:56 PM GMT
No way should Bavuma replace Rassie any time soon.......that quota policy should be at grass roots level, bollocks and double bollocks to having it at international level.
Report Cardinal Scott January 7, 2020 1:57 PM GMT
BOOM!..on behalf of draw layers/Eng backers
Report Cardinal Scott January 7, 2020 1:57 PM GMT
BOOM!..on behalf of draw layers/Eng backers
Report johnnythebull January 7, 2020 1:57 PM GMT
deK..WAC
Report detraveller January 7, 2020 1:57 PM GMT
they have a problem now with malan and dussen both performing.
Report detraveller January 7, 2020 1:57 PM GMT
timber!
Report tomtimtum January 7, 2020 1:59 PM GMT
oh my England believe
Report luckynot January 7, 2020 1:59 PM GMT
why ? just why QDC ?
Report tomtimtum January 7, 2020 2:00 PM GMT
forearm
Report tomtimtum January 7, 2020 2:00 PM GMT
Didnt even hit anything Laugh
Report Kelly January 7, 2020 2:02 PM GMT
Bonkers review .
Report johnnythebull January 7, 2020 2:06 PM GMT
flip flopped onto Eng again now..think they nick this..squeaky bum time for Saffers
Report roache January 7, 2020 2:07 PM GMT
Both the 1 st review yesterday for LBW when there was 2 noises and that one were bonkers reviews
Report Cardinal Scott January 7, 2020 2:09 PM GMT
loads of cricket on today.....Lanka going well I see Excited
Report detraveller January 7, 2020 2:09 PM GMT
Philander deliveries faced in last 3 innings: 68, 81, 58
Report tomtimtum January 7, 2020 2:18 PM GMT
BOOM
Report tomtimtum January 7, 2020 2:18 PM GMT
genius from Root
Report detraveller January 7, 2020 2:19 PM GMT
timbo!!!
Report detraveller January 7, 2020 2:19 PM GMT

Jan 7, 2020 -- 2:18PM, tomtimtum wrote:


genius from Root


Grin

Report detraveller January 7, 2020 2:19 PM GMT
Now bring denly back on and finish off the tail
Report The Spinmaster January 7, 2020 2:20 PM GMT
Just when you think your Eng red position might not materialise Cry
Report tomtimtum January 7, 2020 2:23 PM GMT
haha Jos calling big vern a fooking nobhead!
Report johnnythebull January 7, 2020 2:23 PM GMT
fking knobheadGrin
Report detraveller January 7, 2020 2:28 PM GMT
did he really say that on mic?
Report johnnythebull January 7, 2020 2:32 PM GMT
Buttler said it
Report detraveller January 7, 2020 2:32 PM GMT
are we now into the last hour?
Report detraveller January 7, 2020 2:33 PM GMT
15 overs?
Report SontaranStratagem January 7, 2020 2:34 PM GMT
Still need 3 wickets

Need 8 down with 10 overs left

All out gun slinging now Rooty, get Curran on with the yorkers
Report tomtimtum January 7, 2020 2:36 PM GMT
Laugh yorkers
Report SontaranStratagem January 7, 2020 2:38 PM GMT
Curran is a the mack daddy at them TTT

Get him on for the toe breakers Cool
Report tomtimtum January 7, 2020 2:38 PM GMT
pitch is exploding, need to make use of it not bowl full tosses!
Report SontaranStratagem January 7, 2020 2:39 PM GMT
Curran at one end bowling yorkers

Whoever else at the other end bowling bouncers

Mix it up
Report detraveller January 7, 2020 2:40 PM GMT
This is really confusing again. I thought when the last hour starts, there are a min of 15 overs to be bowled. it seems here they've started the last hour at 14:40, when 15 overs were remaining. Shouldn't it have started at 14:30?
Report tomtimtum January 7, 2020 2:48 PM GMT
BOOM
Report detraveller January 7, 2020 2:49 PM GMT
timber!
Report johnnythebull January 7, 2020 2:50 PM GMT
good catch..Perfidious Albion about to best the Boers..intriguing day..deK the villain
Report Whisperingdeath January 7, 2020 2:50 PM GMT
133.3
W
Stokes to Pretorius, OUT, Stokes gets his man! Steered to slip, England erupt! Finally he gets the outside edge, the ball sails low to the right of first slip, where Root scoops it up!
D Pretorius c Root b Stokes 0 (30m 22b 0x4 0x6) SR: 0.00

133.2
0
Stokes to Pretorius, no run, back of a length, 135kph/83mph and blocked solidly on off
Master Splinter: "No black magic and biting the heads off chickens Alan, ok?" I would always recommend against it
Report luckynot January 7, 2020 2:50 PM GMT
15 overs left, last hour starts. Game ends when the last of the two ends. Simples (ish)....
Report tomtimtum January 7, 2020 2:51 PM GMT
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Report detraveller January 7, 2020 2:53 PM GMT
game over
Report detraveller January 7, 2020 2:54 PM GMT
One decent cricketer in the team. Ben Stokes.
Report johnnythebull January 7, 2020 2:54 PM GMT
draw 1.3x b4 the bellend deK got out..was absolutely nailed on at that juncture
Report tomtimtum January 7, 2020 2:54 PM GMT
what a player
Report Whisperingdeath January 7, 2020 2:56 PM GMT
FAF and QDQ dismissals really bad for SA

Kwality from Crawley but even more kwality by those on either side of him not to fcek it up!
Report Angoose January 7, 2020 2:56 PM GMT
He just remembered that he is the sports personality of the year and acted accordingly Grin
Report detraveller January 7, 2020 2:57 PM GMT

Jan 7, 2020 -- 2:56PM, Angoose wrote:


He just remembered that he is the sports personality of the year and acted accordingly


But that was for 2019

Report johnnythebull January 7, 2020 2:59 PM GMT
these expat Kiwis quite useful as it goes
Report Angoose January 7, 2020 2:59 PM GMT

Jan 7, 2020 -- 2:57PM, detraveller wrote:


Jan  7, 2020 --  2:56PM, Angoose wrote:He just remembered that he is the sports personality of the year and acted accordinglyBut that was for 2019


He enjoyed his trip to Aberdeen so much, he wants to win it again Happy

Report Whisperingdeath January 7, 2020 3:02 PM GMT
Get Denly back on for rabada for at leat a couple of overs! Specially if he is at the right end for the start of the over
Report tomtimtum January 7, 2020 3:02 PM GMT
big vern didnt want any of big ben
Report tomtimtum January 7, 2020 3:07 PM GMT
YESSSSSSSS
Report tomtimtum January 7, 2020 3:07 PM GMT
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Report Whisperingdeath January 7, 2020 3:08 PM GMT
too straight from Bess. More bounce from Denly and use of the rough
Report tomtimtum January 7, 2020 3:08 PM GMT
what a test match
Report SontaranStratagem January 7, 2020 3:08 PM GMT
Without Stokes and Anderson we'd be up s*** creek without a canoe never mind a paddle
Report rob999 January 7, 2020 3:09 PM GMT
I don't care what others say. I reckon Stokes is quite handy.
Report Whisperingdeath January 7, 2020 3:09 PM GMT
Well done Stokes from all the England Staunch men who did not flinch and are laughing all the way to the bank!
Report tomtimtum January 7, 2020 3:09 PM GMT
One of Englands best performances for a long while
Report Angoose January 7, 2020 3:09 PM GMT
Stokes is a winner, incredible attitude and application.
Report SontaranStratagem January 7, 2020 3:10 PM GMT
I'd have laid England at tea but I haven't a pot to p*** in so there's that
Report Whisperingdeath January 7, 2020 3:10 PM GMT
Kwality Test Match and weird but brilliant pitch!

5 DAYS!
Report johnnythebull January 7, 2020 3:10 PM GMT
Stokes ain't by any means the most lethal bowler but what he has in spades is a winner's DNA..smth u can't buy or train for..top man..some frigging sharp catching this test..fair play..great session after tea..Eng came thru..SA blew it
Report roache January 7, 2020 3:11 PM GMT
At last an away win,1st one for quite a while
Report SontaranStratagem January 7, 2020 3:11 PM GMT
Stokes should be captain

Root gets away with it whenever Stokes/Anderson/Broad drags the rest of the team through the winners gate

Make Stokes captain already ffs
Report tomtimtum January 7, 2020 3:12 PM GMT
Don't need Stokes to be captain for him to lift the team
Report detraveller January 7, 2020 3:12 PM GMT

Jan 7, 2020 -- 3:12PM, tomtimtum wrote:


Don't need Stokes to be captain for him to lift the team


maybe if he was captain the team wouldn't need any lifting?

Report Whisperingdeath January 7, 2020 3:13 PM GMT
Tom you might like to know Sibleys hundred was the first from an English opener at Cape Town since 1910 by the truly Great Sir Jack Hobbs! He would make the Essex all time 1st XL ahead of Sir Alastair Cook even though he did not play for them!
Report tomtimtum January 7, 2020 3:13 PM GMT

Jan 7, 2020 -- 3:12PM, detraveller wrote:


Jan  7, 2020 --  3:12PM, tomtimtum wrote:Don't need Stokes to be captain for him to lift the teammaybe if he was captain the team wouldn't need any lifting?


making Stokes captain wouldnt solve the big issues surrounding the team

Report SontaranStratagem January 7, 2020 3:13 PM GMT
But he's better tactically than Root as well

I gurentee he'd have us number 1 if he was captain, not just the tactical nous but he'd get them riled up from the beginning

Headbutting walls before heading out, they'd be fired up from the get go
Report geordie1956 January 7, 2020 3:13 PM GMT
great game and stokes proves yet again that you need men like him to step up to the plate at the most crucial moments ... he has that will to win which in indefinable ...
Report Whisperingdeath January 7, 2020 3:14 PM GMT
Stokes is an excellent bowler. Does the hard yards Broad does not do when it is flat and lifeless!
Report roache January 7, 2020 3:14 PM GMT
Not one South African wicket bowled in either innings
Report Angoose January 7, 2020 3:14 PM GMT
Stokes is best away from all of the media activities that come with being captain, let him do his stuff without that burden.
Report tomtimtum January 7, 2020 3:14 PM GMT
Sibley the best, better than all the rest !
Report SontaranStratagem January 7, 2020 3:15 PM GMT
Plus I've noticed with Stokes he backs up his lads if anyone messes with them, defends them

Stokes would handle the media well enough in my opinion, angoose
Report peckerdunne January 7, 2020 3:16 PM GMT
Stokes as captain is understandable but not required, he is a leader without the badge.

Well played England..

QDK U MUG Laugh
Report SontaranStratagem January 7, 2020 3:16 PM GMT
Roy Keane at Man Ure

No one facked with them did they?
Report Whisperingdeath January 7, 2020 3:17 PM GMT
I think his batting yesterday again selfless gave England the runs, time and overs needed to complete this win!
Report tomtimtum January 7, 2020 3:17 PM GMT
Should be booing big vern for costing em the match not cheering him!
Report roache January 7, 2020 3:18 PM GMT
Amazing just the one LBW wicket the whole match
Report johnnythebull January 7, 2020 3:19 PM GMT
Pollock so easy on QdeK..instead of..WTF were u thinking u little,shortarsed pr1ck?
Report Angoose January 7, 2020 3:20 PM GMT

Jan 7, 2020 -- 3:15PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:


Plus I've noticed with Stokes he backs up his lads if anyone messes with them, defends them Stokes would handle the media well enough in my opinion, angoose


Quite possibly, but just don't burden him with it and all of the other garbage that comes with being captain.
It burns them all out.

Report SontaranStratagem January 7, 2020 3:23 PM GMT
Some excel at it

But yes you could be right, its a risk
Report Injera January 7, 2020 7:41 PM GMT
Wonderful final session. Stokes is an incredible cricketer. He performs when he's most needed. 6 catches, 3 last session wickets and 100+ runs.

SA were heroic in batting 138 overs.

All to play for.
Report VardonVoo. January 7, 2020 8:10 PM GMT

Jan 4, 2020 -- 10:03AM, TerryHurlock wrote:


not even worth a comedy draw green...mind you i say that often and it never ceases to amaze me how it stays alive


Worth remembering this for future reference.

Did it trade above 100? I know WD got a piece at 90.
Lowest odds I saw were 1.33, during the final session.

Report detraveller January 8, 2020 12:05 AM GMT
Credit to elisjohn whom I laughed at when he suggested backing the draw in the 70s.
Report detraveller January 8, 2020 12:15 AM GMT
I had withdrawn all my funds on day 2 of the test. Taking a break. My profits for the last 16 months read -40 Euros(at one point I was up +4k in June). The lack of discipline getting the better of me. On day 2 I got a 500 red on the aus game and tilted and the first thing I did was withdraw the funds.

I have also launched my own agency so should get pretty busy in a week's time. Maybe i'll be back in April. Have fun and long live the KING Happy
Report detraveller January 8, 2020 12:16 AM GMT
Report peckerdunne January 8, 2020 3:11 PM GMT
Be lucky Det.............
Report Whisperingdeath January 8, 2020 4:48 PM GMT
Yep I got £90 but was so convinced the pitch would pop I only covered the draw red and didn't build any contingency to lay off comedy green draw which at 90 was free money. Shoulda known better really.

The pitch did ease up somewhat. I really did think it would open up but didn't fully.

I am not a statto, maybe we need Tom to do some homework but there are certain points in a Test Match where a team comes back from on a regular basis, around 18-20. I am not saying they win from there but they usually get back down to 3's or so.

I also think sometimes you have a gut feeling either about the pitch, weather or light and it is worth on occasion worth a Hail Mary. The skill in that though is to back the play with some real beans. Trade some green and then hope for a bit of luck. Small amounts at high odds is really tinkering and then you tend to focus on the mathematics rather than the game situation.

I know when I win I am concentrating on the match. Primarily on the pitch, the ball, weather, time etc etc etc. When I lose I am usually looking at if I buy it for this I can sell it for that and reduce my losses. When that happens I tend to hold our further for a small profit then it all goes bandy!

So for me it is concentrate on the game build a good position and LEAVE IT ( that is my style of gambling on cricket ) but if you throw a Hail Mary with good grounds throw a decent amount at it. This may not be tennis but over 5 days there is a lot of ebb and flow.

I tend to do most of my gambling on days one and two. If I am throwing money after that I am usually losing or being greedy which are both stupid options. I know some of you are traders. The secret is know your style. Just like in cricket. Know what you do well and leave the wide ball on a length unless you have runs in the bank!
Report Whisperingdeath January 8, 2020 4:50 PM GMT
Yep I got £90

I got 90 on the draw I mean when it was trading in the 65-85 range. It just got taken for some reason. It went back down to 65 immediately after that.
Report peckerdunne January 8, 2020 9:46 PM GMT
The secret is know your style. Just like in cricket. Know what you do well and leave the wide ball on a length unless you have runs in the bank!

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