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The MotM gets dropped. As you say the Captain's stubborness means the hopelessly out of form Moeen gets to play. Have the lunatics taken over the asylum?
Down Under Lyon outbowled Mo and I expect him to repeat that. If Root batted 3, Foakes could keep at 7 and Leach could play instead of Mo. Leach's courage and skill to score 92 on what Root shamefully called a sub standard pitch should have been enough. Never mind he is easily a better bowler. As for Root's dealing with Karl McDermott... This is his first season as the Lord's Head Groundsman. He did nothing wrong with that pitch. If Root and his cavaliers want to play out in front against the moving ball, then they're thicker than even I thought. |
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never mind the top 3 several of the others very lucky to be playing. bairstow is only really playing as a specialist keeper these days. his recent record with the bat is so poor he can't be considered a top order batsman and just sheer blind faith keeping moeen in the side. his batting has completely disintegrated too
even so likely to be a series of a comedy of batting errors. probably be a couple of 3 day games and certainly none getting anywhere near day 5. the duke ball which the australians play hopelessly and sporting surfaces should see to that |
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supposedly hameed as a very pushy and prominent family who have totally done him no favours
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Australia are good for 2 stinkers over here at least
Who can forget their 60 all out ![]() I wouldn't be surprised if they challenge that this time as well, they always throw in a vile batting display every Ashes series over here and that always means we get a bye at least once |
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Bayliss trying to move Root up to 3
Burns Denly Root Roy Has a much better look to it |
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It might look better to you boy!
but it still looks like 30-3 to me ! |
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Oh for those dreamy days of the draw price being sub 3s
![]() If Joe #thebrand Root need any convincing as to the frailties of his champagne charlies, 7.6 ought to do it! |
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something like 1 draw in the last 5 english summers
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We'll see a lot of 30-5s in my opinion
The batting from both sides will mean the bowlers will get lots of cheap wickets Bairstow will be bowled the most? |
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Vince and Malan starting in 1st Ashes test would be much stronger options than Denly and Burns playing. Be crazy to play Burns in particular. Roy would be better off playing down the order because he will be found out opening, but I'd rather Roy open than either of Denly or Burns.
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funny you should say that. Saw some footage of Malan and Vince on sky recently in Aus and they looked half decent!
Root is going to bat 3 so that will give the bowling line up more flexibility. Thing is they don't need 6 seamer's! they need 3 plus Stokes plus 2 spinners taking it either side of the wicket. Mind you Will the game last long enough for a spinner to be involved? |
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the draw looks super short based on our our opinions!!
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Good grief. Our problem is the top 3 so what do they do?
Move one of the top 3 to no. 4! 30-3 0r 40-4 what's the point! Probably go into the this with 4 right arm fast medium bowlers! No wuick and no left armer! One step forward two back! Plenty of rain around but that is more likely to hasten the demise because of cloud cover! |
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surely it's better to break up the inexperienced top 3 and let joe root dictate the game rather than always coming in at 30/2
more concerned about bairstow and moeen both who have no red ball form for a long time now. england can only win if 150/5 becomes 280 or 300 which has been the case in recent home series. 5 down all out and we'll be losing |
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Looks like Root and Denly just swap places. It's progress of sorts.
Taken him forever to do it though. Aggers did a good piece on the winner being the team that can scramble a few runs when needed the most. As mafe says that's often been England's strength with lower order players. Curran turned a 140 lead into 180 last week and made sure Ireland couldn't bat in the sun. He won't play on thursday will he? Woakes for Archer if Archer's not 100%. |
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I'm in a minority here, but I'd have been happy for Root to stay at number 4. He isn't an opener, but if he plays at 3 he is effectively being asked to open cos one of our openers is almost bound to get out early - playing him at 4 protects our best player from the new ball. What we have got is a lot of players who can play 4-7, so chucking Denly in at 4 makes almost no sense to me - his record doesn't demand inclusion, and if he does play he needs to play ahead of Root in the order. Foakes is unlucky not to be in the team for me, everyone else seems to have had a go at number 3, he deserved a chance at the spot to cement his place on batting alone
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Seeing that England have done OK without the top 3 contributing, why don't they get their ODI players to take the top 3 positions and 'rebrand' test cricket like they rebranded their ODI cricket in 2015? If it comes off, teams will be scared shet if the top 3 fire with Root Butler and Stokes still to come. If they don't fire, then its business as usual, which has been pretty decent for England.
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I agree with you father oh and bless me for I have sinned!
Root should be protected at 4 but England with all their all rounders ought to play two spinners, left and right. The only way we can do that imho is for Root to play at 3! It makes no sense for Root to play at 3 and protect Denly! WTF! Put me in at 4 FFS! Pretty sure I might score more than one of the openers! oh and I am not joking! This boi can play! Likely no place for left arm something special Curran or man of the match Leach who could give Moen confidence and has some bottle although I don't think he will bat well against Aussie fast bowlers! I would rather play Curran at 3 and tell him to score runs or he is out! As for Foakes! WTF! Class batsman, the best wicket keeper and maybe even a better batsman than Johnny Bstard! Probably a better Test batsman than Butler too. I would have Bstard over Denly. I like Denly. He is a good bat but we have plenty of batsmen between 4 and 8. If he can't bat 3 then sorry we don't need him and again if we are going to be 30-3 or 40-4 FFS play Hameed! |
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Lanka 2 down but the more expendable Karunaratne is gone. No Worries (honest)
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Kusal joining Kusal
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F*ck me Lanka 3 down WHEELS OFF!
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Losing 2 set batsman quickly has altered the whole bloody game.
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I',m ion the wrong thread
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Now that I'm here my thoughts on the Ashes is Aus are going to surprise many, Bancroft is PROVEN in english conditions Smithy has taken dedication to unheard of levels and he is about to shine in his strongest format. Aus have the edge in batting |
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From these 2 pics you can see which wicket will be used
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAohu9AXoAEIWZ_?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAywr3kXUAA6-pC?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 |
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starc dropped?
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must be unfit.
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NO!
Not unfit. Read the fred! Bumble I think stated over a week ago that it was likely Aussie would play Siddle instead of Starc feeling he may be more effective at Egbaston or at least provide some tight trundle to keep things tight while unleashing Cummins and maybe Pattinson. Not sure Hazlewood is ready! I don't 100% disagree with you Cardinal. Aussie have some decent batsmen but should have batted Carey as well as Wade and Paine imho. Not sure who their 5th bowler is and it might be a weak point for them. Both teams will be brittle against a moving ball but England will have the edge down the order although the Aussie tail can bat on a flat one. |
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australia minus smith and warner were basically absolutely schooled on home soil by india last winter. not much evidence there they've got any other batsmen other than those 2 up to dealing with england's battery of seam bowlers
england do throw in the odd absolute schocker but they still win far more than they lose against decent opposition at home. won 10 and lost 4 in last 3 major home series against oz, saffers and india |
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAzMk75XUAMsIoH?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
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What a scruffy looking wicket.
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Starc omission had Eng shorten but now they have retraced back over evens.
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Is Starc's absence confirmed? Thought Paine was naming his team at the toss.
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Starc has to play over Pattinson ffs
Siddle, Cummins and Starc is a lethal 3. Siddle to keep it tight, Cummins and Starc to come on in bursts Australia would be stupid to drop Starc for Siddle if he is indeed fit |
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Agreed. Oz must go hard at England first up. Decimate the top 3 and set the tone for the series.
Can't see Burns lasting long against Mitch. 2 mid wickets, deep square. Dry him and he'll fold. |
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I think they are expecting shock and awe from Pattinson tbh.
I think England are a good lay before the toss on the first day of the series at around evens |
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Some rain sunday and mondays forecast which wasn't there when I went to bed and still draw has drifted.
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