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By:
TerryHurlock
When: 21 Aug 18 15:40
Laugh
By:
VardonVoo.
When: 21 Aug 18 15:40
@ CS : How do they even know? I've been with First Direct for yonks through unemployment, benefits, self-employment, financial trading, commission-only jobs with highly variable income, cricket trading, homeless and living in my car (not a Berlingo), on-line retailing, you name it - anything but PAYE, yet they seem to love me - my credit rating is impeccable. The Lloyds one is for paying bills from.

If you really need a legitimate income just set up a business account as a sole trader, or become a Director of your own Ltd company and pay yourself £150-odd a week to avoid NI, then top it up with a regular share dividend.

I've been thinking about the following a lot recently.

Possible tax-free "income" :-

All gambling, including financial spread bets.

Single or Married Person's Allowance (£11,850 or 2 x £8,695, with unused bits transferable)

£1,000 savings interest disregard

£300 for four years Help-to-Save Tax Credit scheme, if you get those

£1,000 income from Air BnB type letting if you live out

£7,500 income from a lodger in your own home

£11,700 (double for a married couple) Capital Gains on disposals AFTER deducting any losses from this or previous years. 10-20% tax on non-property asset gains (18- 28% on property.)

I'm sure there are more tax-free "perks" to think of.

That's over £30k tax-free before the gambling income - enough to keep even Lloyds happy, I'd imagine.
By:
TerryHurlock
When: 21 Aug 18 15:42
they batted a whole session!Surprised
By:
jucel69
When: 21 Aug 18 15:42
back to the odds at the start of the day
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 21 Aug 18 15:42

Aug 21, 2018 -- 3:40PM, VardonVoo. wrote:


@ CS : How do they even know? I've been with First Direct for yonks through unemployment, benefits, self-employment, financial trading, commission-only jobs with highly variable income, cricket trading, homeless and living in my car (not a Berlingo), on-line retailing, you name it - anything but PAYE, yet they seem to love me - my credit rating is impeccable. The Lloyds one is for paying bills from.If you really need a legitimate income just set up a business account as a sole trader, or become a Director of your own Ltd company and pay yourself £150-odd a week to avoid NI, then top it up with a regular share dividend.I've been thinking about the following a lot recently.Possible tax-free "income" :-All gambling, including financial spread bets.Single or Married Person's Allowance (£11,850 or 2 x £8,695, with unused bits transferable)£1,000 savings interest disregard£300 for four years Help-to-Save Tax Credit scheme, if you get those£1,000 income from Air BnB type letting if you live out£7,500 income from a lodger in your own home£11,700 (double for a married couple) Capital Gains on disposals AFTER deducting any losses from this or previous years. 10-20% tax on non-property asset gains (18- 28% on property.)I'm sure there are more tax-free "perks" to think of.That's over £30k tax-free before the gambling income - enough to keep even Lloyds happy, I'd imagine.


Interesting reading THX

BTW I'm now looking to pay voluntary NI contributions, avoiding paying is not

By:
tomtimtum
When: 21 Aug 18 15:43

Aug 21, 2018 -- 3:40PM, VardonVoo. wrote:


@ CS : How do they even know? I've been with First Direct for yonks through unemployment, benefits, self-employment, financial trading, commission-only jobs with highly variable income, cricket trading, homeless and living in my car (not a Berlingo), on-line retailing, you name it - anything but PAYE, yet they seem to love me - my credit rating is impeccable. The Lloyds one is for paying bills from.If you really need a legitimate income just set up a business account as a sole trader, or become a Director of your own Ltd company and pay yourself £150-odd a week to avoid NI, then top it up with a regular share dividend.I've been thinking about the following a lot recently.Possible tax-free "income" :-All gambling, including financial spread bets.Single or Married Person's Allowance (£11,850 or 2 x £8,695, with unused bits transferable)£1,000 savings interest disregard£300 for four years Help-to-Save Tax Credit scheme, if you get those£1,000 income from Air BnB type letting if you live out£7,500 income from a lodger in your own home£11,700 (double for a married couple) Capital Gains on disposals AFTER deducting any losses from this or previous years. 10-20% tax on non-property asset gains (18- 28% on property.)I'm sure there are more tax-free "perks" to think of.That's over £30k tax-free before the gambling income - enough to keep even Lloyds happy, I'd imagine.


I thought about that first part, setting up a company or something to try and create an income source but from the research I did on it I thought it would be classed as Fraud if i ever used that to try and prove a source of income for a loan/mortgage etc

By:
jucel69
When: 21 Aug 18 15:44
nowt wrong with a bit of fraud
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 21 Aug 18 15:44

Aug 21, 2018 -- 3:43PM, tomtimtum wrote:


Aug 21, 2018 --  3:40PM, VardonVoo. wrote:@ CS : How do they even know? I've been with First Direct for yonks through unemployment, benefits, self-employment, financial trading, commission-only jobs with highly variable income, cricket trading, homeless and living in my car (not a Berlingo), on-line retailing, you name it - anything but PAYE, yet they seem to love me - my credit rating is impeccable. The Lloyds one is for paying bills from.If you really need a legitimate income just set up a business account as a sole trader, or become a Director of your own Ltd company and pay yourself £150-odd a week to avoid NI, then top it up with a regular share dividend.I've been thinking about the following a lot recently.Possible tax-free "income" :-All gambling, including financial spread bets.Single or Married Person's Allowance (£11,850 or 2 x £8,695, with unused bits transferable)£1,000 savings interest disregard£300 for four years Help-to-Save Tax Credit scheme, if you get those£1,000 income from Air BnB type letting if you live out£7,500 income from a lodger in your own home£11,700 (double for a married couple) Capital Gains on disposals AFTER deducting any losses from this or previous years. 10-20% tax on non-property asset gains (18- 28% on property.)I'm sure there are more tax-free "perks" to think of.That's over £30k tax-free before the gambling income - enough to keep even Lloyds happy, I'd imagine.I thought about that first part, setting up a company or something to try and create an income source but from the research I did on it I thought it would be classed as Fraud if i ever used that to try and prove a source of income for a loan/mortgage etc


Forumites on fire! Good Stuff!

By:
TerryHurlock
When: 21 Aug 18 15:45
indeed
By:
jucel69
When: 21 Aug 18 15:45
i took the banks for almost 500k by the time i was 25
By:
tomtimtum
When: 21 Aug 18 15:46
do tell Juce!
By:
jucel69
When: 21 Aug 18 15:46
nothing illegal either
By:
TerryHurlock
When: 21 Aug 18 15:46
good work
By:
jucel69
When: 21 Aug 18 15:46
credit cards loans
By:
jucel69
When: 21 Aug 18 15:47
went into debt mgmt, paid fcuk all for a few years and moved overseas. stopped paying anything
By:
jucel69
When: 21 Aug 18 15:47
didn't do it on purpose, wish i had
By:
jucel69
When: 21 Aug 18 15:47
spent most on records, drugs and hols
By:
jucel69
When: 21 Aug 18 15:48
back in the early 00s the amount of credit available was insane
By:
tomtimtum
When: 21 Aug 18 15:48
Laugh there is potential for abuse there for sure, pretty easy to get multiple credit cards with high limits
By:
pixie
When: 21 Aug 18 15:48
And wasted the rest......
By:
tomtimtum
When: 21 Aug 18 15:49

Aug 21, 2018 -- 3:47PM, jucel69 wrote:


went into debt mgmt, paid fcuk all for a few years and moved overseas. stopped paying anything


have you had the debts written off now?

By:
jucel69
When: 21 Aug 18 15:49
i had a house fully paid for too, so they used to give me personal unsecured loans based on that, even though it was not secured on the house!!
By:
jucel69
When: 21 Aug 18 15:50

Aug 21, 2018 -- 3:49PM, tomtimtum wrote:


Aug 21, 2018 --  3:47PM, jucel69 wrote:went into debt mgmt, paid fcuk all for a few years and moved overseas. stopped paying anythinghave you had the debts written off now?


fcuk knows, probably been sold a thousand times

By:
tomtimtum
When: 21 Aug 18 15:50
you can have them all written off if they havent contacted you for a set amount of time, think its 6 years
By:
jucel69
When: 21 Aug 18 15:50
had nothing to show for it when i leftLaugh
By:
jucel69
When: 21 Aug 18 15:50

Aug 21, 2018 -- 3:50PM, tomtimtum wrote:


you can have them all written off if they havent contacted you for a set amount of time, think its 6 years


don't think they ever really die though

By:
TerryHurlock
When: 21 Aug 18 15:50
they stop chasing after 6
u sound like my brother juce,he battered em,i remeber driving him from bank to bank to apply for loans,he had credit cards coming out of his ears,rotated them until the linmits were up and BOOM
next stop Marbella
he lived the dream,
By:
jucel69
When: 21 Aug 18 15:51
have to remember there would be a lot of interest in that 500k
By:
tomtimtum
When: 21 Aug 18 15:51

Aug 21, 2018 -- 3:50PM, jucel69 wrote:


Aug 21, 2018 --  3:50PM, tomtimtum wrote:you can have them all written off if they havent contacted you for a set amount of time, think its 6 yearsdon't think they ever really die though


they do, you can have them statute barred

By:
jucel69
When: 21 Aug 18 15:51
yeh 25k on c/c at 23/24, personal loans of 40k. deserve it tbf
By:
tomtimtum
When: 21 Aug 18 15:52
The time period between your last contact with the creditor – whether it was a payment made, a letter or a telephone conversation – has been six years, this means that the debt has become “statue barred” and the creditor is no longer allowed to pursue you for payment or take any further legal action against you
By:
TerryHurlock
When: 21 Aug 18 15:52
they do die
By:
jucel69
When: 21 Aug 18 15:52
ok that's cool
By:
jucel69
When: 21 Aug 18 15:53
there were so many and i had them all, i think. it was the boom of internet banks too, so they were handing it out like confetti
By:
tomtimtum
When: 21 Aug 18 15:53
did they get your house from you?
By:
jucel69
When: 21 Aug 18 15:53
no, nothing was secured, they used to think they could but they couldn't
By:
tomtimtum
When: 21 Aug 18 15:53

Aug 21, 2018 -- 3:50PM, TerryHurlock wrote:


they stop chasing after 6u sound like my brother juce,he battered em,i remeber driving him from bank to bank to apply for loans,he had credit cards coming out of his ears,rotated them until the linmits were up and BOOMnext stop Marbellahe lived the dream,


what happened to him Laugh

By:
jucel69
When: 21 Aug 18 15:54
sold up before they had the chance
By:
jucel69
When: 21 Aug 18 15:55
good old baines and ernst, i was paying like 200 quid a month on 500k loansLaugh
By:
jucel69
When: 21 Aug 18 15:55

Aug 21, 2018 -- 3:55PM, jucel69 wrote:


good old baines and ernst, i was paying like 200 quid a month on 500k loans


in debt mgmt

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