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England vs India - Second test at Lords

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Fatslogger
When: 12 Aug 18 17:49

Aug 12, 2018 -- 12:28PM, Eric.Cartman wrote:


Rashid had a good game...0 balls bowled..0 balls faced..0 cathches taken...good to see him being more consistent


Odd couple of games for him but didn’t even get to be specialist dismisser of Ishant can’t pick the googly to save his life Sharma this time. Still, hardly his fault but I think the rationale that led England’s selectors to prefer Moeen at home still applies, albeit that Woakes at 7 was hardly a bad choice. The guy is far too good a batsman for 8 but then we’ve batted Moeen there too, in the not too distant past.

By:
Fatslogger
When: 12 Aug 18 17:51
In fact, did we have a tail of Bairstow, Moeen, Woakes, Broad, Anderson for a few games?
By:
Fatslogger
When: 12 Aug 18 17:54

Aug 12, 2018 -- 11:56AM, Cardinal Scott wrote:


Aug 12, 2018 --  4:53PM, johnnythebull wrote:i think it's the nature of the beast as a gambler..we're never satisfied..tweaking winning positions to eke out a bit more and end up shooting ourselves in the footSo flipping true


I know not to trade day 5s much, or an obvious final day, day 3 or 4 (I don’t always pay attention to what I know but that’s another story) but I’m far less sure how many of my bets today were bad. Definitely the final few chasing the draw up on 3rd wicket were horrible beyond belief but think trying to trade the rain was fair enough. Enough rain actually fell for that to have been a big winner, the umps just played on.

By:
BigMig
When: 12 Aug 18 21:54
The weather lady (Helen Willetts) said on TMS before play that rain would arrive shortly and further play was unlikely. The radar also suggested lengthy interruptions.

Guess a few of us got stung by that even though it was obvious England would ultimately win (although, we thought, not until day five!).
By:
detraveller
When: 12 Aug 18 22:41
Was funny how everyone was going after Root for declaring. And the game was over on day 4. I see some people lost waiting for rain, you have to ask yourself, were the first two days not enough? Today's rain play was risky and i'm glad I wasn't home to trade that. I ended up winning a hundred on the runline and 150 on match odds. Like I usually do, I've already wasted 80% of that on the golf.
By:
detraveller
When: 12 Aug 18 22:41
*not declaring
By:
detraveller
When: 12 Aug 18 22:42
The stats on this game are incredible. A shameful performance.
By:
detraveller
When: 12 Aug 18 22:42
or shameless, whatever.
By:
DAN1974
When: 12 Aug 18 23:01
i think the biggest thing to take from this test is that even with virtually the whole of the first two days rained off and quite a bit of day 4, it never ever looked like it would be a draw. this is a sad indictment on test cricket, as it proves that there are not any teams out there who are capable of grinding it out and batting long periods. this is good from a betting point of view, i suppose, as just laying the draw at some point will be profitable. But overall it dissapoints  me, i love this game, and i think it is dying.
By:
johnnythebull
When: 12 Aug 18 23:06
teams need to learn how to man up & grow a pair getting a bit like the footballers..lot of money around in T20..less desire to grind out tests and pride
By:
the whizz kids
When: 13 Aug 18 00:20
This test had nothing to do with cricket, It was all about making the right moves over weather.
I made one great move that put me in clover but also made one or two bad moves, most notably on price.
No regrets as I ended up 3.3k up, could have been far more if todays radar & forecast come true.
Ended up losing 8/900 green on England today but well worth it imo.
Trading is all about value and how much you can get out of it.
I'm happy and back in the game.ExcitedExcitedExcitedExcited
By:
jucel69
When: 13 Aug 18 02:14
The crazy thing is the pitches haven't even been doctored to aid our bowlers. It's the ball that has been doing magical things. The amount of swing for long periods of time has been amazing.
The Indian's batting has been poor but it can't be easy when the ball is hooping both ways over after over.
By:
jucel69
When: 13 Aug 18 03:00
There was a concern they would have to rotate bowlers due to the grueling schedule.
They won't need to now & there's no way on god's earth that Broad/Anderson will want to miss Trent Bridge.
I can't see myself opposing England for the rest of the series.
It's going to be hard to make any decent cash on the remaining games, unless there is rain again.
England will be sub 2s and loads of market love + Kholi's injury
Market is just opening, be interesting to see the prices
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 13 Aug 18 04:29
Always look for an angle me!

England were 80-7 odd last match and could easily have lost if the sun came out. If India had won this toss the game may have been different.

I am not saying the Indian batting has not been as effective as an Italian Infantry Batallion but they could just as easily win the next match. Again a favourable toss or lucky on the weather and the situation could easily reverse

We all knew the team winning the toss here would be the likely winners. It was not rocket science and still most of us managed to lose large greens wtf!

Note to self.......keep it simple, take what winnings the match offers and don't go looking for what isn't there and finally  if the the King has no clothes on don't be afraid to call it. Lessons in the bleed in' obvious!
By:
jucel69
When: 13 Aug 18 09:29
Eng 1.6 WD!
By:
detraveller
When: 13 Aug 18 10:08
Already lumping on it. Just so that I don't lose my money betting on other mug sport before the next test.
By:
detraveller
When: 13 Aug 18 10:15
Eng will be 1.45 when they win the toss. 1.35 if they don't lose the customary early wicket. 1.5 if they are 30-3. If India bat first, their first target should be to either bat out more than 18 overs or cross 60 runs mark, whichever comes first.

I learnt the lesson of not laying England the hard way. I would rather skip the game than try making money laying England against a subcontinent side. Because if you don't bet, you can't lose.
By:
detraveller
When: 13 Aug 18 10:18
1.66 now.
By:
mafeking
When: 13 Aug 18 12:12
always difficult for the away side to reverse momentum when things start going badly downhill. this is a very long tour by modern standards anyway. on their last trip here 2014 they lost the last 3 matches by enormous margins
By:
Fatslogger
When: 13 Aug 18 20:19
I’m not usually a big believer in within series momentum, especially in favour of a very inconsistent England side (lots of home tests lost, although not series) but right now it does seem very hard to believe in an Indian win at Trent Bridge. The England batting looks better for Pope, Woakes and Curran being in it and unlike India’s batting, there are quite a few guys you’d think would rate to make runs at least a decent proportion of the time. Even Cook and Jennings might not be total busts all series. With India, while the sample sizes aren’t huge and I do rather rate Rahane and Pujara, the records of all bar Kohli outside the subcontinent are poor. You’ve also got to think that the England pace bowling will continue to outperform the admittedly pretty decent Indian pace. That means you’ve got an awful lot on Ashwin if you lay England and TB isn’t usually very spin friendly.

Other thing is that you can happily wait for England to be 50/3 and still lay at odds on with market love likely to persist.
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