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tomtimtum When: 01 May 17 18:58

Yep, so pleased for Stokes! Good lad

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Fatslogger When: 01 May 17 18:59

May 1, 2017 -- 6:58PM, tomtimtum wrote:

Yep, so pleased for Stokes! Good lad

Bloody good effort, yes, winning the game despite Dhoni's very best efforts to lose it.

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bobweenit When: 01 May 17 18:59

You 2 nearly made me spew!

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bobweenit When: 01 May 17 18:59

And a s Englishmen you should be ashamed of the Ginger pie thrower!

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rosebowl When: 01 May 17 19:00

magnificent from Stokes. He is a class act with bat and ball, Superb.

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horusisis When: 01 May 17 19:00

after that start and then dhoni playing so bad that was a real recovery

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frog2 When: 01 May 17 19:01

Dhoni kept the team in at when 4 down for nothing.

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Fatslogger When: 01 May 17 19:01

Don't think he's had a game where he's done well with bat and ball yet this IPL but that's his third MotM award, isn't it?

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Fatslogger When: 01 May 17 19:02

May 1, 2017 -- 7:01PM, frog2 wrote:

Dhoni kept the team in at when 4 down for nothing.

Just don't agree with this analysis. He'd have been off getting out immediately than producing that innings. That his team won anyway doesn't mean he gets any credit, any more than a bowled who goes for 40/0 in a low scoring game does.

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Fatslogger When: 01 May 17 19:03

Better off getting out immediately, that was.

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detraveller When: 01 May 17 19:03

To be fair, Dhoni's innings not worthy of criticism today. No fooker stayed out with Stokes, except one. And that was Dhoni.

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frog2 When: 01 May 17 19:04

My ratings dont either FS. But I am not sure that Dhoni and Dharwan yesterday were not useful.

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horusisis When: 01 May 17 19:04

it was more bad by his standards, he settled the boat when it was rocking

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slip5 When: 01 May 17 19:04

DHONI was the anchor played the perfect innings

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Cardinal Scott When: 01 May 17 19:04

NO WAY should MS come in before Stokesy again!

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frog2 When: 01 May 17 19:04

If Dhoni was out straight away 40-5.. Not sure that is a better situation than when Dhoni was out.

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frog2 When: 01 May 17 19:06

Commentator thinks is arguable that the guy who went for 4 an over was pick of the bowlers. Surely there is no debate.

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tomtimtum When: 01 May 17 19:08

Need to see more English talent in the IPL, have a clearout of the past its!

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Fatslogger When: 01 May 17 19:24

May 1, 2017 -- 7:04PM, frog2 wrote:

If Dhoni was out straight away 40-5.. Not sure that is a better situation than when Dhoni was out.

Would have been a much worse situation but that's because of what Stokes did, not what Dhoni did. It's retrospective reasoning based on an amazing innings from Stokes (and a useful one from Christian) to regard Dhoni's as a good innings, or even a passable one.

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Fatslogger When: 01 May 17 19:37

May 1, 2017 -- 7:08PM, tomtimtum wrote:

Need to see more English talent in the IPL, have a clearout of the past its!

Stokes is the only one to have been much good though, isn't he? Buttler has been decent, to be fair: really good SR and enough runs to be useful fairly often and devastating on occasion. Woakes has taken wickets but had a bad ER and not shown much with the bat, albeit that he's not had the chance that often. Mills has picked up piles and piles of cash for not an awful lot, it has to be said and Billings and Morgan have both been outright poor, haven't they?

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frog2 When: 01 May 17 20:11

FS,

My computer ratings came through and I have to say you are right. Dhoni was rated -75. Stokes got a rating of 738.

http://www.cricsq.com/match-ratings/ipl-2017-05-01-rising-pune-supergiant-v-gujarat-lions

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tomtimtum When: 01 May 17 21:41

May 1, 2017 -- 7:37PM, Fatslogger wrote:

May 1, 2017 -- 7:08PM, tomtimtum wrote:Need to see more English talent in the IPL, have a clearout of the past its!Stokes is the only one to have been much good though, isn't he? Buttler has been decent, to be fair: really good SR and enough runs to be useful fairly often and devastating on occasion. Woakes has taken wickets but had a bad ER and not shown much with the bat, albeit that he's not had the chance that often. Mills has picked up piles and piles of cash for not an awful lot, it has to be said and Billings and Morgan have both been outright poor, haven't they?

Buttler has been superb for me (rose tinted glasses I know), has had some terrible luck with dismissals
Woakes hasn't had much chance with the bat so hard to judge him on his all round abilities

Roy hasn't been given much of a chance for some reason, looked decent.
Billings flatters to deceive, looks like he could be top class but doesnt score enough runs to back it up.

I know the above 2 haven't scored the volume of runs to suggest they're top class but they've shown enough for me to think they could score plenty of runs whereas there's a few overseas in this comp who just look like garbage.

Mills hasn't done anything amazing but this is obviously a huge step up for him.
Morgan is vastly overrated so I wouldn't expect much from him.

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Fatslogger When: 01 May 17 22:26

Agree with you on all points ttt. Buttler is my kind of T20 batsman: never hangs about and can obliterate attacks on his day but even if he's unlucky he won't have damaged his side's chances in the way say Rahane and Dhoni keep doing this IPL by slow scoring (to pick two excellent players, one not suited to the format who's not quite adjusted and one who's trying to do what he did despite not quite having the game any more). Billings has masses of talent but oddly his format appears to be 50 overs, as he's not really fired in T20. I think he's too good not to crack it but he hasn't this IPL.