India v England - 5th Test at Chennai

Ali to the rescue.

Dec 20, 2016 -- 8:14AM, pxb wrote:

Ali to the rescue.

what a shot

This is so pathetic from England. Professional crickets not knowing how to play in these circumstances. This is the trouble when you coset players and deprive them of education from old pro's

Dec 20, 2016 -- 8:17AM, Whisperingdeath wrote:

This is so pathetic from England. Professional crickets not knowing how to play in these circumstances. This is the trouble when you coset players and deprive them of education from old pro's

Everyone needs a good education from old pros

They cannot even work out to leave Moen to take Ashwin and Stokes to Yadav!

Dec 20, 2016 -- 8:17AM, Whisperingdeath wrote:

This is so pathetic from England. Professional crickets not knowing how to play in these circumstances. This is the trouble when you coset players and deprive them of education from old pro's

wretched stuff really, draw backers under 1.1 must be filling the kegs with brown stuff

*their

i backed the draw at 1.09

(but i layed it at 1.12)

Dec 20, 2016 -- 8:20AM, DStyle wrote:

i backed the draw at 1.09(but i layed it at 1.12)

good job DS, you would be furious watching this

Juce we even learnt how to unsettle a player with a few choice words. Make them angry. One player told us to deliberately throw the ball and hit a batsman in the back when they were taking a run! Outrageous yes but if you haven't been exposed to it you will not know how to react.

Oh and we have plenty of old pro's in my town. They don't even bother gathering behind the town hall anymore but stand on the old Roman Road waiting for business!

Dec 20, 2016 -- 8:23AM, Whisperingdeath wrote:

Juce we even learnt how to unsettle a player with a few choice words. Make them angry. One player told us to deliberately throw the ball and hit a batsman in the back when they were taking a run! Outrageous yes but if you haven't been exposed to it you will not know how to react.Oh and we have plenty of old pro's in my town. They don't even bother gathering behind the town hall anymore but stand on the old Roman Road waiting for business!

15 minutes to rea

Time to lay the draw again?

With this England team yes!

They are going to get about 15 overs with the second new ball.

The old croken bat play! I thought someone from the changing room had made the call but Moen worked it out for himself! Progress!

Kwality from Kohli. Has he been getting lessons from Cook?

England could buy two overs by knocking off the defecit and that in turn puts pressure on Kohli with his close fielders

If Mishra was playing for England under Cook's Captaincy he would never have dived for that. He knows what Kohli expects, he was never getting that but he had to dive!

Ali riding his luck again

Jadeja to Ali, OUT, urgh. That was a revolting heave from Moeen, and another lackadaisical dismissal

Whatever happened to the concept of 'application' to the task in hand?

Now Stokes, going to be a nipper now

collapso

7 down

fcuk I've missed all this action, watching the BBL

75 mins and 3 wickets.

2

I may have egg on my face in about an hours time but I can't believe the market thinks England can hang on here, given what has happened during their time in India...

India looks very generous odds now 1.7 ish
2 wickets in the last hour with a new rock

Dec 20, 2016 -- 9:55AM, Petraco wrote:

I may have egg on my face in about an hours time but I can't believe the market thinks England can hang on here, given what has happened during their time in India...

Just had a decent bet on India at 1.75

agreed 1.4 fair value to me

Can't see Broad lasting long against the pace

Last hour now and a min 15 overs.

1.5 is still an early Christmas present!

been catching up on this on video..now live
i see from the graph the x hit 1.07
what price were india then?
all this after a century opening stand
can they survive?
hope not,laid the x at end of day 3
but they just might
brilliant finish in store

Dec 20, 2016 -- 10:11AM, johnnythebull wrote:

been catching up on this on video..now livei see from the graph the x hit 1.07what price were india then?all this after a century opening standcan they survive?hope not,laid the x at end of day 3but they just mightbrilliant finish in store

13s/14s

Broad slowing things down, a nice bit of gamesmanship!

cheers juce
what u on..India?
how's that Cha am ya ba?

Dec 20, 2016 -- 10:12AM, johnnythebull wrote:

cheers jucewhat u on..India?how's that Cha am ya ba?

I've topped up on India at 1.75, but still have green on the draw too.

do u think they can hold on?

Dec 20, 2016 -- 10:15AM, johnnythebull wrote:

do u think they can hold on?

no

Dec 20, 2016 -- 10:12AM, johnnythebull wrote:

cheers jucewhat u on..India?how's that Cha am ya ba?

just Chaang, wine & whisky for me nowadays! My drug fueled days are well behind me!!

Been some shocking shots from England

India need the one wkt really
fantastic how tests can throw up these tantalising scenarios
and how the improbable can occur relatively frequently
due to pressure and man's fallibilities under it

Dec 20, 2016 -- 10:18AM, johnnythebull wrote:

India need the one wkt reallyfantastic how tests can throw up these tantalising scenariosand how the improbable can occur relatively frequentlydue to pressure and man's fallibilities under it

Very rare a team is able to bat for 90 overs on the last day, even with all wickets intact.

Dec 20, 2016 -- 10:18AM, johnnythebull wrote:

India need the one wkt reallyfantastic how tests can throw up these tantalising scenariosand how the improbable can occur relatively frequentlydue to pressure and man's fallibilities under it

Ball isn't too bad, but I can India creating 3/4 chances in the next 40 mins

how's things in the LoS after King Bhumiphol's demise?
has his son taken up residence
or is he still enjoying himself abroad?

and there's that wkt

Dec 20, 2016 -- 10:22AM, johnnythebull wrote:

how's things in the LoS after King Bhumiphol's demise?has his son taken up residenceor is he still enjoying himself abroad?

Nothing has changed for me personally. Most people wearing black, especially in BKK.
I assume the new King is living here now, although he hasn't spent much time here in the last 30 years or so!

We need the spirit of Monty!

gamne over

easy money

i'll say one thing
this is NOT a bowler's wkt
so fair play to India
BUT there is no way England could have done likewise

India

I am glad England lost this.

If Cook loses the Captaincy or resigns as a result of this drubbing it will be worth it!

I knew it was going to happen, but didn't maximise my win. Big win, should have been biblical.

that absolute gutless c*nt ain't even worth his place in the side
every time i see him
i want to batter him

103/0 to 207 a/o

was it in Bangla we had a 100 p'ship and then just capitulated?
this is more pathetic as the pitch wasn't bowler friendly
India are the dog's at home

I was against India all game

The fact I got my money back and a small win is such a huge bonus. I didn't taker advantage of the low odds on the draw otherwise I would have had some comedy green on India too. My fault for not gettiug out of bed! TMS has a lot to answer for.

I can't wait for Geoffrey on TMS now!

Dec 20, 2016 -- 10:31AM, Whisperingdeath wrote:

I was against India all gameThe fact I got my money back and a small win is such a huge bonus. I didn't taker advantage of the low odds on the draw otherwise I would have had some comedy green on India too. My fault for not gettiug out of bed! TMS has a lot to answer for.I can't wait for Geoffrey on TMS now!

He's ran out of feathers to spit

they should put our Geoffrey in charge
disinter fred truman as well

mooen ali shot when you trying to save game

jadeja was superb
the catalyst for the collapse

u can rely on Moeen to do that

He was fuming earlier I'll tell you that for nowt!

He was ging on about the fact they have to play aggressive shots because they don't know how to defend their wicket. He mentioned they have all these high paid coaches and none of them are doing their jobs. He really was angryu and I think that was at 5 down after Moen went!

It will be worth listening to just for the comedic value.

He also mentioned they don't listen to older players and think that they know nothing.

He's on now!

Listen!

typical arrogant chav attitude pervading our once great nation

england need john crawley has coach he will bring toughness to our batting lineup

Dec 20, 2016 -- 10:38AM, johnnythebull wrote:

typical arrogant chav attitude pervading our once great nation

It is, the poo pooing of elders is horrendous

Dec 20, 2016 -- 10:39AM, slip5 wrote:

england need john crawley has coach he will bring toughness to our batting lineup

where do you get these pearls of wisdom from

crawley was englands gifted player he was never given proper chances to play

Dec 20, 2016 -- 10:40AM, slip5 wrote:

crawley was englands gifted player he was never given proper chances to play

he was unfit most of the time and played everything across the line. Decent player of spin though

murali rated crawley has the best player of spin ever

Dec 20, 2016 -- 10:42AM, slip5 wrote:

murali rated crawley has the best player of spin ever

Thorpey was better imo, played some gems in the sub continent

England have just one of the worst collapses you will ever see time for changes for sure i think in the batting lineup, keep root and bairstow all the others out

think broad needs to retire now he will go down has one of englands great bowlers but he 34 now and past it

Dec 20, 2016 -- 10:45AM, slip5 wrote:

think broad needs to retire now he will go down has one of englands great bowlers but he 34 now and past it

I think he still has some time, no big alterations are needed, just a difficult place to win for any team

Need some leadership on and off the pitch!

Management and selection was appalling!

I really don't blame the players as much.

Dec 20, 2016 -- 10:55AM, Whisperingdeath wrote:

Need some leadership on and off the pitch!Management and selection was appalling!I really don't blame the players as much.

agree, the captaincy and selection was abysmal

on the plus side England have never lost a match on the Indian Sub Continent when they have scored 478 or more batting first!

yet

Someone on here stated that Cook is pretty dense and not intelligent, you could certainly come to that conclusion from his interviews.  Promoted to captaincy on being a clean living good boy not from the working classes who was a fixture in the team.

Cook done a lot for his local team Essex over the years and his local community

I made a smallish profit in the end because of that collapse, should have had a maximum win...was cruising from the 2nd session of day 1 to the tea break today, disgusted with myself even more than I am with the collapsees.

I'm glad that people have finally noticed that Jennings bats like Trescothick. It's been niggling me for the last few test matches!

That was the most pathetic inept batting display in order to save a match,4 batters there really should hang there heads in shame playing hairy fairy flicks and getting caught out when trying to save the match,there are more troubled times ahead for England as our 2 frontline pace bowlers are nearing the end of magnificent careers,i think Cook has had enough of the aggro and will bin the captaincy and the batting order is all over the shop at the moment as to who will bat 4,5 and 6 if Root stays at 3.

Dec 17, 2016 -- 8:54PM, detraveller wrote:

Can England lose twice in a row after scoring 400?

If only we had won more tosses!

Dec 19, 2016 -- 5:10PM, the whizz kids wrote:

I've not had much involvement in this due to a boozy weekend but still 500 red.Kind of frustrating as it wipes out a good bit of green from the Aus match.Prices are about right considering how flat the pitch is but you just know that Ravi and Jad can just have a mad hour and take 4 wickets especially knowing Eng reputation of collapsing.India at 3.2 is not the worst value bet in the World but the price should drift to a decent price within the first session and would not be surprised if India are back to Evs/odds on by tea.I'm laying India at 3.2 with a view to get out around 4/5 and will start backing India from 5s to 10s providing it goes my way.

Good result all round + made a few ££ in the T20.

Atherton on Cook

"He looked shell-shocked. He had that haunted look that I have seen in England captains before. I saw it in myself when I resigned in Antigua. He looked to me like a man who has had enough. If I was a betting man, I reckon he will go."


and the even better news is.......Atherton is a betting man! and a damned good one by all accounts!

surely cook won't carry on after this. his captaincy has come to a natural conclusion. no tests for 6 months now and root can have the summer to bed in before going to oz

quite unbelievable buttler has been left 6 not out twice in 3 tests now coming in at number 7

ffs atherton. frequent misuse of the reflexive pronoun and now a failure to use the subjunctive mood properly. not acceptable given his education.

(Cook standing down would be one big positive to be taken from this tour, along with finding Jennings and Hameed, Bairstow's grit and dropping Ballance)

and while we can all pray Cook does the right thing, let's remember he didn't do it after the Ashes debacle, didn't do after we lost the series against Sri Lanka at home in 2014, and didn't give up the ODI captaincy willingly. And bleated bitterly about it after the world cup.

He's odds on to go, but i'd not fancy laying anything shorter than 1.5. And there is a market.

*backing anything shorter than 1.5

does feel different now though. as atherton says he looks like he's been worn down by it and has had enough

I think most of our guys probably had that look at some point during the series. Hussain was saying pretty much the same thing about Cook "having that look" during the Sri Lanka series in 2014.

I think with the amount of whispers that have been mentioned in the press, and that the ECB and England Camp are, selectively, as leaky as a colander, it's odds on he'll go.

Given the embarrassingly soft ride Cook has got from the main stream media during his tenure, I would take a perverse pleasure in its being leaked that he was pushed rather than walked before he got the chance to announce it himself.

It would, at least, be consistent.

Incidentally, this Jack Leach chucking thing is beyond shameful.

indeed it absolutely stinks. just trying to cover up their own selectorial ineptitude by throwing the poor lad to the wolves

very good from Tregaskis:

https://dropinpitch.wordpress.com/2016/12/20/dead-man-walking-chennai-is-cooks-epitaph/

fin de siècle! indeed!


ffs atherton. frequent misuse of the reflexive pronoun and now a failure to use the subjunctive mood properly. not acceptable given his education.

Ok I need to know this and I need to know this tonight or I shall not be able to sleep!

DStyle

I charge you with being an English teacher!

Kindly respond.

to my children only i'm afraid WD.

largely i'm just a grammar pedant/nazi, although i do try to reserve my criticism solely for those whose job it is to speak for a living; were their words in print they would be corrected.

Marcus Aurelius nailed how to deal with it when you encounter it normally:

Not to be constantly correcting people, and in particular not
to jump on them whenever they make an error of usage or a
grammatical mistake or mispronounce something, but just
answer their question or add another example, or debate the
issue itself (not their phrasing), or make some other
contribution to the discussion—and insert the right
expression, unobtrusively.

I would like to be a good English Nazi but despite going to a Grammar School I do not know what a split inifinitive is or an infinite but I know not to split infinitive's though I probably do! I wish I knew where to put the apostrophe's, before or after the s. As to how to subjunct the mood I would be more excited if I could than if a young Gina Lollabiggies was presented to me in a shortie nightie!

btw that fellow Tregakis is amazing. I read his article on Ceasar's wife, fascinating and superbly written. Should you be a regular of his  please feel free to post the link's! It's not you is it? ( sorry couldn't resist that one! ).

For those of you who haven't both these articles are worth a read

https://dropinpitch.wordpress.com/2015/11/13/caesars-wife-and-sports-journalism-when-is-close-too-close/

http://www.thefulltoss.com/england-cricket-blog/the-return-of-caesars-wife/